Does the human race deserve to thrive on earth?

Asked by: saatvikdutt
  • We are native to the Earth.

    Throughout history, the human race has looked upon others of its kin as inferior, and without the right to, well, rights. Even today this is so. However, as governments and societies move liberally in their social views over time, we see that these are people too, just as humans are part of Earths' ecosystem, and therefore humans should be allowed to strive on the Earth, if not elsewhere.

  • Every species deserves a chance.

    Planet Earth selected for our genome, just as it did for that of every other species. We are a part of the most complex structure in the universe - we are no better or worse than any other organism. So from a fair and unbiased examination of nature, humanity deserves to survive. Saying otherwise would be like proclaiming the panda to be unfit for survival on account of its ridiculously picky diet.

    That isn't to say, though, as previously said, that we deserve to subjugate the natural world. Frequently the "religious right" draws on this line from the Bible:

    "... And God said to them: Be fertile and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it. Have dominion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and all living things that crawl on the earth." (Genesis 1:28)

    These people use that quote to justify policies that needlessly annihilate vast swathes of nature to make things easier or more enjoyable for a few certain humans, policies such as pulling out of the Paris Agreement and removing hunting regulations and protections on endangered or innocuous species. Aside from ignoring the majority of the population that opposes these actions (in particular ending climate regulations), they ignore another, perhaps more important line, also from Genesis:

    "The Lord God then took the man and settled him in the garden of Eden, to cultivate and care for it." (Genesis 2:15)

    And yet, we should not be destroyed on account of the few individuals who exploit the world this way. Most people are morally in the right, but some are simply evil. Does the crime of the few justify the punishment of the many? Nay, I say to thee.

  • Yes Yes Yes

    Saying that we don't deserve to live feeds self hate which can only lead to the destruction of self and the destruction of others and and of the planet, because that breeds insane people that pass those beliefs to their children in the DNA as it's been proven, is that what you want to tell your children, that they don't deserve to live? Is that the message you want them to pick up? Sure we are polluters, destroyers, but we are also creators as someone else said before and it's not in human basic nature to destroy and pollute, it's learned behavior stemming from a basic feeling of disconnection with nature and the Earth that comes not only from industrial society but also from our illusion of separateness that was present even before this industrial age with its planned obsolescence and packagings, and pollutants started. And although only few people in the world decide how things are made and how much we pollute globally, like the ones who have decided to create planned obsolescence for everything from lightbulbs to printers, we each have a vote with our recycling, with our living and spending habits. Also there is a new generation of people findingn solutions to these issues like the boy who invented a way to cean the Ocean from plastic! If greed were to be eradicated we could live on a piece of land as big as Australia and each and everyone of us would have 1/4 of an acre of land, and hunger wouldn't exist with permaculture which works in deserts and mountains even and helps the ecosystem instead of destroying it but it's not profitable for the big companies like monsanto....Think about it

  • Yes for sure!!

    We are maybe not prefect, maybe far from it, but if where still alive today its because we deserve to live, we have a goal in life, if this goal was given too use, it was for a good reason. We need to stop saying that the world doesn't deserve too live, we should look up to our future ahead of us, to make the world a better place for the future generation. WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT THINGS IN OUR WORLD, LIKE: Firemen to save us from flames, police officers to help us when where in need, Hospital to heal use when sick or hurt, we have help centers for mental, drugs, alcohol problems and etc. We are the smartest on earth we can make great thinks, Please stop what you are doing and think how you can make the world a better place, THINK deep inside you, everything is possible you just need a bit of love.

  • But only if we end our confusion

    There are many beautiful lights in this world - and yet they are largely overshadowed by the darkness. Those who seek and find enlightenment know that we are all of one conscious awareness and that our existence is a temporal experience of beingness offered to us as a gift from God. Others find different ways to express love for their fellow human beings without reaching enlightenment. Yet others separate and divide themselves and become the darkness. Right now the darkness enfolds most of the earth. A moderate number of people hold the middle ground. And a handful of us are living life from an enlightened viewpoint. Therefor the question is not whether or not we deserve to live, but rather it is a question of how do we further enlighten our society as a whole and break through the artificial construct that we have all agreed to partake in as a result of inviting fear, uncertainty, and doubt into our lives.

  • More than yes

    I believe as much as anyone that the human race is adversely affecting the environment, but we are the pinnacle of evolution no matter how flawed we are. I sincerely dislike almost all humans but I realize the implications of our existence. To say we do not deserve to live is almost selfish. We, as a race, have done, and are currently doing, some horrible things but instead of saying we don't deserve to live we need to move on to make a better future. We are not inherently destructive, we are inherently creative we just need to jump the hurdles of our relatively new found abilities. As humans we have the power to destroy everything we come in contact with. We have guns and technology that could easily be used without abandon to hurt. But we have technology to heal and sure it is mostly clouded by greed but that will fade we will see that our place in this world is more than to conquer, it is to explore and learn. We have been given something that no other animal on the planet has been given. We do not need to speculate about the existence of intelligent life in the universe. We ARE intelligent life in the universe. We are the proof that it can exist if not only once. How lucky we are. How improbably lucky. So yes I believe we deserve to live.

  • Truth is, no

    Although it is true in "Darwinism" parts, but humanity has simply annihilated so much life forms, weak and strong, simply for greed. In the bible, we are destined, lifted above anything on earth to exist. However, bible also states killing is wrong. And since humanity kills a lot of things pointlessly, it is, frankly, we do not deserve to thrive on earth.

  • Its simplistic but the truth is simple

    In any view of an ecosystem, all species, plants, micro organisms, insects, bacteria, yes, even viruses who contribute to evolutionary advance in all DNA... Right down to molecules, atoms etc there is one constant scientific observable fact:
    Any member of any ecosystem benefits the entire system by its existence even by destruction it causes in its efforts of its own survival. The only exception to our global ecosystem is the human race. We benefit nothing, not even ourselves in the destruction we cause while ensuring our survival.

    Simply, we are the only species that modifies the world we live in in unnatural ways. We are the only species creating materials that do not exist normally in nature by distorting nature itself. The natural ecosystems cannot repair damage caused by plastics, modified fuels, morphed viruses, metal compounds etc all synthesized from our apparent 'wisdom' which no other species lays claim to.

    We feel righteous and superior because we alone declare humans as self aware and possessing knowledge, revelling in our right to make choices to effect the entire planet right down to its atomic structure and our own DNA.

    We affirm our superiority by defining intelligence itself as something only we truly possess because we have wonder, creativity and are self aware...

    I now know that true intelligence is what every other species has that we do not... The lack of greed or malice, they are content living life as they have evolved in their ecosystems to do, are very adept at molding to change, adapting their survival to ever changing environments while ensuring other species benefit through that change as well, ultimately creating a ripple effect of adaptation through the entire ecosystem as a whole.

    However instead of adaption to pressures humans place into the ecosystem, slowly species extinction and decline has occurred, leading humans to further breed and manipulate genetics of everything, plants animals, bacteria, viruses...Even ourselves to stave off the irreversible damage we have already done hence encountering more damage as a result.

    There is no end to it until our own END, even then, with so many unnatural elements left on this planet, nature will not be able to redress that which is not natural... We have killed the hope of this ecosystem as I type already, the only planet we have to ever exist on... We have killed ourselves and for all our intelligence, we are too stupid to adapt and change ourselves to model the true intelligence of any other member, any of them, in the ecosystem...

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  • Humans are equivalent to destruction

    Wasn't it the humans who have wreaked havoc on the world being the most intellectual species on earth has made them even more dangerous. Do humans have a place on the earth if humans were to be snapped out of the ecosystem the world would thrive in a much better way.

  • We don't deserve this planet.

    I want to live but the fact is that unless people learn to control their genitals we won't stand a chance. I wouldn't mind having a child but I took the decision not to have any due to the overwhelming population. I've even lost relationships over it.
    People are selfish and have absolutely no consideration for the rest of the occupants on this planet.
    We deserve to be whittled down to a million or two people so the plant can at least stand a chance of survival.
    I'm an atheist and the meer thought of a "god" is laughable, but a good plague to wipe a load of people out would literally "do the world of good".
    Peace out!

  • 2000 years have passed and what have we learned?

    The human race deserves to DIE! Yes, we might have better lives than perhaps in the 70s or latter centuries due to advancement in technology, medicine, etc... But where has the human race lacked? Or not advanced? Spiritualism! Respect, and community. We still live in a world dominated by Greed, self interest, and Geo political interests. If you were to ask an unborn baby, do you want to live in a world were you start to work as soon as you are born, go through school, uni, etc only to end up working in a call centre? Or perhaps learn how we managed to pollute the seas, oceans, destroy species, kill animals for food, yet own pets? I think the unborn child will answer with No... Humans are the disgusting face of God!

  • No of course not

    I say no because humans are trapped in a cycle.
    That is prosper then war then prosper then war.
    They are the parasites devouring other life forms to quench their thrist .They have lost their wisdom. Amd god, it remain just a word without significance in other word humanity shall perish. Thats all

  • Flawed opposing arguments and a clear and evident truth

    Firstly, allow me to debunk easily many of the arguments I see in the other side:

    "Every species deserves a chance. We do too."
    Exactly. However, by the principle of the greatest good for the greatest many (which, by the very definition of itself, brings about the most positive results.) the massive amount of other varieties of life that mankind is killing of are robbed of this chance by our continuous, and if history has anything to say, inevitable abuse of this planet.

    "We can change for the better."
    Theoretically possible, but given the overwhelming evidence that is far too long for me to get in to here, clearly this is implausible, while technically possible, thus reason dictates that you disagree with the statement.

    "We are superior in evolution."
    To claim something is superior implies a measurable, consistent variable. This variable in most of the arguments is something along the lines of our developments in technology, for the arts practical purposes. However, one would not say that a disease that kills it's host before it can spread is superior, despite its bounty within that host. In the current social and environmental setting, we are equivalent to that disease. Nothing, no matter the other virtues, that destroys both itself and things around it will ever be accurately labelled as "superior."

    With some of these arguments countered, though not all as I, too, have material needs (shocker) and must move on, the result is clear. By the basic logic of the greatest good for the greatest many, humankind is better off not existing in anything close to its current state, which for many is the definition of "thrive" in the question.

  • Pollution. Littering, making species go extinct.

    I think my headline is enough, humans refuse to treat their planet with respect and continue to pollute it, throw trash on it, and kill the animals who would like to live on it. If people in power could get to work on making people treat this planet with the respect it deserves, we can stay for a long time.

  • Earth is perfectly fine without us.

    Humans are the species that came to Earth to thrive and dwell on. But above all, there are many cons towards that. All the things we do, cut down trees, drive cars, operate factories, smoke, kill others, and many other things that destroy are ecosystem are sins that unfortunately we never try to improve. Yes, people try to raise awareness not to pollute and stop cutting down trees but ignore the fact that the things we do and what people that want to raise awareness do is just contribute to constantly ruining the life force of Earth. We kill animals for food which are means of survival and ruin natural landscapes for building cities and communities for thriving humans to roam in. But truth is, I even contribute to this, we all do. There is no way to stop it and this is just the plain truth. Earth abosulutely would be better off without us and that’s the plain truth.

  • What’s the point?

    What difference does it make? We are self destructive and ignorant. The choices we make are primarily driven by our egos. The accumulation of money, power and property pits us against one another. We use our diversity to divide instead of for unity, to hate instead of to love. We are fucked.

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Coraxo says2013-10-28T21:31:13.117
I think that with consciousness comes responsibility.
If you mean with strive, doing what we've been doing for the last couple of years, no.

We've got the ability to make decisions that impact our life in the long-run.
We know that a lot of things we're doing today are either pointless or unnecessary.

We've got the ability to think about those turns, it's our responsibility to not destroy this planet or any other of it's inhabitants.
We shouldn't take more than we need, or do things that are unnecessary which cause harm.

Currently, no.
But that's just from my perspective.
No one's obliged to do that, and since we can, we may.

We can nuke places, torch forests and all of that.
We're able to do so, so we may do so.
That doesn't fit my perspective of reality, and if I could change it, I would.

This world would be so much more interesting if we had a species to compete with on intellectual grounds.
A species that could burn down our cities and irradiate our crops with technology.
We'd probably disagree with that species too, so why not disagree with our own species?