• Disproves the Christian Notion of God, but not God

    God is defined as benevolent, omnipotent and omniscient. If God is benevolent, then evil should theoretically not exist. However, evil exists, which leads us to the following dilemma: either God (a) does not want to prevent evil, or (b) cannot prevent evil. If (a), then God is not omnipotent, and if (b) then go is not omniscient. Proponents of the PoE argue that we have "free-will." Well, if there is free will, then there is no omniscience, hence no tripartite notion of God, for free will means going to something apart from a condition that is already prescribed; and if God is omniscient *with* free will, this disproves God's benevolence. Free will does not offer any solution to PoE.

    But I do think that this only disproves the Christian notion, not the Pantheistic or the Vedistic notions of God whatsoever.

  • If he is all powerful, why won't he do anything?

    Defending all the problems in the world with free will doesn't work. That just means that he is watching everything burn without doing anything. He can stop evil, right? Would destroying evil infringe on free will? Not really. Say a parent lets their kid have the free will to wander around a playground. If they start getting bullied by someone, will the parent intervene? Does intervening infringe on the kid's free will? The notion of free will poorly justifies God's apathy.

    Just because evil comes from free will, doesn't mean we should let it run rampant.

  • If God was loving, evil should not exist.

    If an all-powerful and loving God exists, why does evil exist? Surely a God who cared for the people as much as the Judeo-Christian God would not want His people to suffer for things they have not done. If God existed, bad things would not happen to good people, as they do far too much now. Rather, He could just snap His fingers and destroy evil in the world. Those who believe God and evil can coexist claim free will is the reason that evil exists, but if we look again at the Judeo-Christian bible, we will find out that it is not humans who are the source of evil but the devil, and what loving god would allow evil to seep into His most beloved creation? It boils down to this: either God is not loving, or God does not exist.

  • The 4 Questions.

    If god is willing to end evil in the world but not able to, then he isn't omnipotent. If he is able to end all evil in the world but not willing to do so for some reason, then he is willingly allowing evil to exist, which makes God malevolent. If he is able to end evil and willing to end evil when evil appears, then we wouldn't be talking about evil in the first place. If he can't do both, then what kind of god is he?

  • Contradiction of an Omniscent god.

    One of the definition of a god that spans across all religions is that he is omniscent,omnipresent etc. If he is to be all-knowing, how does he decide who goes to heaven/hell? If he does allow something like that to happen, technically he isn't all that good, or befitting an idea of the god definition any more. If he doesn't know who goes to heaven/hell, this god isn't all knowing and still isn't befitting an Idea of a god either. Its a catch 22.

    So yes, unless it is disputed that a god is one who is not omniscient, omnipresent all knowing etc, the problem of evil pretty much disproves an idea of god.

  • Yes and the free will defence does not work.

    First of all it does not explain natural disasters and the suffering of animals and secondly there is no contradiction in having partial free will. I want to have breakfast, I could eat
    or a baby.
    If God exists he could unable us to do the third option whilst preserving our freedom to choose between harmless options.

  • If God is all-powerful, how can He (or She) allow evil to exist?

    If we buy the Judeo-Christian belief that God is an all-powerful, loving source of good in the world, why would He allow pain and suffering, a type of evil, in the world? If God was truly the great deity we view Him as, surely evil would not exist because God, in His infinite love for humankind, would have rid the world of it long ago. It comes down to this: the presence of evil either means God does not exist, or that God is neither all-powerful nor loving.

  • Free will is the source of evil

    The Problem of Evil is commonly used as an argument against God's existence; if there is an all-loving and compassionate Creator, how is it that bad things sometimes happen to innocent people? A theologian during the Middle Ages named St. Augustine said that the answer to this dilemma is free will; humans are rational beings who possess freedom of will, and evil and suffering is the result of abusing one's free will.

  • As humans, we brought evil upon ourselves.

    Way back when, when Adam and Eve went against God's command and ate from the tree of knowledge, they brought "evil" upon all to come (people who lived from then on). Yeah, it may not have been "your" fault, but we were all born into sin AND have a chance to be made new again. So please do so. :)

  • God disciplines, but he doesn't force. Also, evil is not the same as a natural disaster.

    God allows for evil because of two things. Moral agency, and opposition. If there was no law, would anyone be good? God gives laws to man to follow. He sets up consequences for breaking those laws. In this, there is justice. We are free to choose to keep or break laws, and suffer consequences or receive blessings depending on what we choose. Those who repeatedly choose to break God's laws and never repent become evil. Sometimes their evil actions directly affect the innocent. God will help the innocent through these trials if they turn to him. Repentance is how God shows us mercy. Even evil people can repent and change through the blood of Christ. When it comes to natural disasters, science tells us what causes them. God does not stop them because such things are a natural opposite to the mild weather of the earth. Also, natural disasters that result in tragedy help humans remember that we must take care of each other. Did Americans care about Haitians before they were hit with that hurricane? What about the Philippines? There were undoubtedly needs being unmet there before the tragedy, but the tragedy helped us put down our Cosmopolitan and Forbes magazines for a day and help someone else out for a change.

  • If god is evil, whats the devil for?

    If God was the reason for the good and the bad, what is the need for a figure like a devil? Although I don't really support God much in his unknown ways, I am sure the devil is corrupting humans, not God, for he wouldn't had left us alive otherwise.

  • It doesn't disprove God... Just... It doesn't prove God by not disproving it.

    God, if one exists, is beyond the knowledge of living man. All we can have is faith. If there's proof, then we would either be good/bad because we desire reward/fear punishment - and that's not how to behave. We should rather be good because we WANT to be good, not because of rewards/to avoid punishment.

    Also... Even if God allowed all this evil and suffering and such (even if he CAUSED it all) it wouldn't disprove God. There may well exist a being who thoroughly enjoys watching us all suffer.
    ... I just wouldn't consider such a god as worthy of praise.

    So - just because it doesn't disprove God doesn't mean it proves God's existence, either. No one can claim knowledge of God because God is so beyond our phenomenal ability to know. Death may open new knowledge up for us, but, then again, it might not...

  • No it does not. We were given free will.

    We were all given free will. We are all given the choice as to whether or not we want to do something evil or not. We are not forced to be good. It is our own choice as to whether or not we want to follow God's commands or not. If we choose not to, that is evil.

  • It's not that simple

    A God who allows evil is not necessarily a God who condones evil any more than a parent who allows their children to disobey must necessarily condone that disobedience. God is a mind, capable of making decisions based on His knowledge of future outcomes, not a machine that is forced to adhere to our individual definitions of good and evil.

  • People will blame anyone

    God gives us free will. It is people who strive to achieve selfish aims which make us experience evil, people will blame anyone including God to continue striving to achieve a low goal such as comfort or knowledge which is not in the best interest for them self or for others.

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Juris says2015-04-03T05:35:59.247
People say that sufferings exist because they are part of God's plan.

If God has already a plan, then people no longer have free will.

If God is all-knowing i.E., he knows what will always happen, then he knows that a person will abuse his free will and eventually would do something bad. In this case, why would God allow that?