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  • The idea of a linear left to right political spectrum is stupid, but in those terms, fascism would be left-wing.

    Contrary to popular belief, fascism can be most accurately defined as the political belief that the state is more important than the individual. This belief is what allowed fascists to justify pursuing "racial purification" of humanity. They considered the individual rights of those they killed as less important than the greater good that they fervently believed would come to humanity through the supremacy of a certain race. Essentially, fascism focussed on community, rather than the individual, which is undoubtedly a hallmark of the left wing.

    In fact, Nazi is an acronym for National SOCIALIST German Worker's Party. (In German) Obviously a self-declared socialist worker's party is very clearly left-wing.

    Also, the right-wing is always considered to be more focused on religion than the left, and fascist states were bitterly opposed to religion. The Nazis actually set up a religion called positive christianity which incorporated racial elements and the swastika, and was intended to gradually move Germany away from Christianity toward "mystical Darwinist vitalism" based on ancient Vedic (aryan) rituals. Mussolini was forced to cooperate with the Catholic Church to some extent because the Italian people were overwhelmingly devout Catholics. However, on a personal level, Mussolini was always very contemptuous of religion, and often privately referred to priests as "black flies".

    Finally, when fascism was on the rise throughout Europe, it was the ideology of young liberals, based on bold new ideas like eugenics that conservatives shunned.

  • In the end it's just big government

    Fascism is a very unique form of government, there's no doubt about that but many of the characteristics of it can be seen on both sides or solely to the left. For example nationalistic pride, to say that this is an example of Fascism is to call people like George Washington Fascist, pride in your country isn't truly being Fascist. There is then the issue of the state, in Fascism the state rules all, while it allows the free market to flourish to some degrees in the end the state dictates what's done and when. If in general American terms the left is defined by more government and the right is defined by less government, makes no sense to say the right-wing is the proper home of Fascism.

  • Fascism is government control

    Take a good look at the other policies that Hitler imposed on his people that we never hear about. Hitler always talked about what was best for the common good or the "people," not the individual. He put regulations on smoking and even on soda consumption. Not to mention his hate for Jewish Capitalism.

  • National Fascism/Socialism A unique idealism that changed the world

    It has Left wing economic policies that created the "Economic Miracle" and brought 6000 000 unemployed Germans back into their jobs in under two years, boosted German science and technology to surpass the richest countrys that had condemned it 14 years earlier.

    In terms of social policies, its highly "Right wing"; including Ethno Nationalism, Clerical Fascism, while maintaining that the lowliest peasent is needed in society as the leader himself.

    It had no intention of promoting "White Supremacy" but pride in ones own unique and valuable people. This was seen in the phenomenon known as the the Waffen-SS; volunteers from some 40 different countrys, from all races would volunteer and die for a common idea and faith known as National Socialism.

    The "Fascism" we see today promotes the nonsensical "White Supremacism" that Adolf Hitler not only resented , but never once did he; or any other National Socialist/Fascist enforce.

    "Neo-Nazism" was created into the misrepresentation we see today by the Jewish pedophile "Frank Collins"; he came up with the notion that "Adolf Hitler was a disappointment because he didn't kill every Jew" ; the "Holocaust hadn't been pushed on the American public until Frank Collins had made these statements in 1970, when he marched on a suburb that had a majority if alleged "Holocaust Survivors" as well as the Ideology of "White Supremacy" that people most commonly think of when they hear the name Adolf Hitler.

    The Left/right wing political partys as well as "Democracy" that control most nations on earth, share one common ideology, Liberalism.

  • Applied Political Ignorance

    Put simply, most of the -ism's are collectivist big-government anti-individual political systems, pure and simple. American leftists and progressives, like stealing the word Liberal, simply changed the definition of Fascism to paint their political enemies and a bad light. Simply put, Fascism was to the right of Communism; so therefore it must be a right-wing ideology.

  • Complete opposite of far right

    When the people arent individuals anymore but a part of a all knowing all powerfull government who imposes its will on a people, its left. Extreme right is anarchy, total freedom and no government, how is fascism the next closest thing to that. Right wing and conservatism is all about individual rights and the notion of you do your thing and I'll do my thing and as long as we dont infringe on each other's freedoms we dont care what either persons do with their freedom. Being racist and obeying an all powerfull government that forces everyone to be equal dealing in absolutes. Not even close to Far Right, complete opposite of the right

  • Fascism is a left because its goal is to everything be state-controlled, like in socialism.

    If we look at socialist nations like China, or the USSR, we can see that their markets, unlike in a capitalist free market ideology. There are also little to none political freedoms in socialist nations and even your civil rights are extemely limited. Mussolini, the creator of fascism said: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state." We can see that these nations are fully controlled by the state, which matches the quote.

  • It disregards personal freedoms

    Fascism demands an expansion of state power and interference in the free market. The further right wing one gets the smaller the government becomes until you reach anarchal-capitalism.

    At most fascism is slightly right of socialism, the mid point between capitalism and socialism, usually with the addition of nationalism of some kind which is neither left or right.

    I think the logic behind fascism being right wing is that the right wing party in america at least is so weak on it's principles and so willing to compromise that they're close to left wing now. The right wing is now the middle ground.

  • Fascism is far leftist

    The only thing more leftist than fascism is communism. Both are government control by dictators. Far right is Anarchy, or no government. Socialism isn't quite as military centered as fascism but government runs most social programs. Capitalism in a free republic should be center right with government controlling a few things like the military, taxes, the courts, the money, and a few other specific tasks only. Everything else run by states and or the free people.

  • Fascism bears economic similarities to socialism with a right-wing cultural agenda but it is not left wing

    Though fascism bears some similarities to socialism in its economic practise, it does not bear the progressive values of leftist cultural discourse. Fascism claims to be a third position between capitalism and communism and rightly so - it collectivises the individuals in a manner controversially compared to socialism (fascism heavily regulates businesses to make them fit the state objective) but its moral values are distinctly anti-leftist and rightist.

    Fascism borrows elements from the left (in its anticapitalist discourse) to ignite populist sentiment - it is not left wing in its moral values. There is a collectivist right wing (fascism) and an individualist left wing (anarchism/liberitarian socialism) - the left wing is not inherently fascist. The right-wing provided the moral foundations of modern fascism - fascists innovated economically (national socialism/syndicalism) and governmentally to appease the working class.

  • Yep, left wing

    It is diametrically opposed to right wing capitalism or Laissez-Faire. An example would be if you owned a factory. You may OWN the factory, but you will be told by the state what to produce, how many units, costs, and wages to be paid, for the benefit of the country - not the owner/business. One small example.

  • The political spectrum measures human rights.

    If left means less human rights and right means more, then all of the characteristics of fascism are left wing. Right wing ideology is based in Natural Law which creates freedom, equality and peace in the society. Fascism is anti-freedom, the racist and totalitarian elements are anti-equality and the lack of human rights and the aims of the fascist state are anti-peace. Fascism is left wing.

  • Leftists insist on conformance to their ideology

    The leftist attitude is "conform or we will ruin you". If you believe that fascism involves forced conformance to an ideology, then the left is clearly more fascist than the right. The right wing is more live-and-let-live. The leftist organizations try to get people fired or try to close businesses if they don't follow the "correct" behavior, or if they state "incorrect" opinions.

  • It is extremely Left Wing

    In determining the difference between left wing and right wing, political scientists have determined that the left-right spectrum is an economic one as before there was great confusion about the social and economic differences between the wings so a separate social axis was introduced. Anyway on the far right is Laissez-Faire Capitalism, the free market, competitive Capitalism and the separation of the state and economics while on the far left is pure unification if the market and government and 'co-operative' Socialism usually to promote legislated and forced wealth equality. Fascism is an extremely authoritarian and nationalistic form of Socialism as Fascism involves full state control over every thing including and especially the economy. Why do you think Hitler's party was entitled the German National SOCIALIST WORKERS' party. Hitler despised Capitalism and wanted forced wealth equality (except to the Jews and minorities which he saw as unworthy and so would not be part if his Socialist 'Utopia'.
    The whole argument about Fascism being far right is just some ignorant leftist propaganda.

  • Definitely socialist/left wing

    The only reason facism is challenged as being right wing is because the lefties need a dark repressive murderous society to point the finger at so they can claim that the left doesn't have a monopoly on genocide in the 20th century. As to all the equality rationale supporting their claim, all left wing societies have the objective of the elimination of the middle class, and eventually democracy. Once the society is split into elite/poor, communism is fully realized and everyone is equal, but some are far more equal than others. Read orwell 1984, animal farm.

  • State collective, Corporate collective, Race collective, Wealth collective, Knowledge collective...

    I don't see left or right here, but I see a trend opposing individual freedom of thought and action. Individuals are the variations that keep populations resilient, and at the same time are the seeds of new collectives. If left and right refer to collective and noncollective, then Fascism is left.

  • These are all pretty good arguments on both sides

    However, reading through them, one thing becomes quite clear. The definition of left/right no longer applies - in fact it never should have except for the case of when the term was coined -- in France, before the French Revolution (I'm guessing everyone knows this story).

    Governments since the American Revolution have become multi-faceted - whereas in France/England, even though they were constitutional monarchies even back then - they were still at the height of their power. Back then it was monarch or no monarch.

    In today's world, opinion, belief, philosophy, etc are so widely diverse in how to govern a nation, that left/right no longer applies - and it really never did.

    But, if we had to boil it down simply - and keep the left/right dichotomy - then we have to say it is left wing (in today's definition). If you boil it down to one simple truth - the extreme right of today wants zero government control (ie anarchy - as someone else pointed out), the extreme left of today wants everything controlled by the state - whether it be where you live, where you work, where you get your healthcare - basically as the Obama administration "cradle to grave" assistance.

    The arguments on the no side are very nuanced - and yes, for the most part, it's all true. However, as i mentioned above, it's too complex to boil this argument down to a linear one. If we do, in today's sense, we must follow the line of government/no government.

  • Fascism was supported by the left before the Holocaust.

    The policies and collectivist impulses of the Fascists were embraced by the left in both America and Europe before the Holocaust. W.E.B. Du Bois saw Hitler as a man of the left, as did many others who supported his heavy regulating arm of the market. It wasn't until the atrocities committed by Hitler did the left begin to distance themselves from fascism (though ironically still associating with the term "communism" in complete callouse of the equal opportunity killers in the communist regimes). Economically, the left's support of Fascim shouldn't be a surprise considering it is a system that allows only a veneer of private ownership, but with a State that heavily regulates and influences the allocation of resources. Unlike, socialism and communism, where the means of production are outright owned by the collective (in practice the State); Fascism is merely socialistic type policies implemented into markets. Socialistic policies implemented into markets are supported by those on the left. Fascism is merely Capitalsim heavily regulated and distorted through socialistic policies that inevitably favor special interests at the expense of others. The unintended economic consequences of these socialistic policies are wrongly blamed on the market, as a result this excuses further economic intervention by the government. What then comes is the United States today, which is economically Fascist.

  • Statism vs. Individualism

    Fascism is complete and total state control over the individual. Total government. That is exactly what the left move toward, beginning with mild socialist policies through heavier socialism, progressing into communism and finally fascism. No personal property or assets, no power base other than the state.

    The only reason communism and fascism were at odds during World War II is because they were so similar. Hitler and Stalin knew there was not room enough on the planet for both of them.

  • Big Government Control

    Nazism was a form of Socialism. Socialism is on the left. Big government made decisions in all areas of life, and severely limited personal freedom. Left wing.

    I am convinced that the Left said it was on the Right, because they didn't want to be associate with it. But in its characteristics, it is Left wing = big government.

  • Fascism has always been left

    First you have to define the poles on the left you have complete control and the largest government possible. On the right you have the smallest or no government. This puts Fascism, Socialism, The Natzi party and Communism on the left. One of the no people foolishly put equality Fascism also expresses the desire for equality. All the workers who are not part of the ruling class are equal. These ideologies are often promoted by loud chants for equality, just before they kill the useful idiots and seize control.

    "Fascism is anti-individual at its core. Regardless of its policies of imperialism or its opposition to progressive ideology, fascism is more importantly a collectivist regime. Collectivism is the hallmark of left wing ideology. All collective philosophy stems from a false belief in unity/equality under some banner, be it racial, social, cultural, economic etc. The belief in a collective has many supporters on the right of the right/left political dichotomy (religionists, big government supporters, mixed economy believers) but EVERY left wing ideology depends on collectivism."

  • Left as we generally define it today.

    I believe that the struggle between left and right today is most accurately defined as centralized government control of daily lives (left) vs more individual responsibility (right). In these terms the National Socialist Movement would certainly be classified as left wing because it was primarily about ultimate state power. That said, I agree that neither right nor left political movements in our country today would espouse to Fascism because of it's strong racist and nationalist tenets.

  • Facism and communism share a lot in common.

    1. Anti-liberal. In both SU or Nazi-Germany there was no freedom.
    2. Anti-capitalist. Both systems and ideologies destroyed the free market and hated it for several reasons.
    3. Big military spendings, big military importance and much focus on the army. Being a soldier is seen as very honorable.
    4. Racism against rich people and people who don't follow their system (communism)
    5. If you have a different opinion, you're screwed. The state controls your mind.
    6. Off course, the state was all powerful and had a wide tentacle into one persons life.
    7. Millions of people were killed because of it.
    8 Propaganda and scaring the people with a false image of enemies.
    9. Names. Socialism and National-Socialism
    10. Anti-semitism. You'd be wrong if you think communism didn't hate the Jews. They are good traders and in favor of free market. Something especially communists try to annihilate.
    11 Hitler and Stalin even made a bond for a while.

  • Revisionist history scares me...

    I was shockingly surprised and vehemently dismayed as I was reacquainting myself with the definition of this word fascism (reading an article at the time where the words 'right wing' and 'fascist' were in tandem), and found it to be suddenly "right wing" in nature...When in the world did this happen?!? And wouldn't 'right wing fascist' be considered an oxymoron?

  • It is neither

    It is neither but lately there has been a large amount of left sympathizers who argues that fascism is a right ideology which it is not. Again, it is neither but both can be, I am tired of this idiotic debate. Where are people with brains? Please, this is starting to be ridiculous.

  • Fascism is on the Left. Liberty and personal responsibility are on the Right.

    Fascism and Marxism are the two primary forms of Socialism, but for decades the Left has told the lie that Fascism is on the Political Right.

    Fascists pursue government control of the economy, the people, and everything else. Since Fascism is statist, and those on the political Right embrace personal freedom and responsibility, Fascism has no logical relationship to the Conservative ideology of the political Right.

    Conservatives support a small government, as our original Constitution mandates that there be little power in the Federal government. We Conservatives want most of the power to reside with the American people and want what government power is necessary to be kept at the local and state levels.

    Those on the Right support Liberty, free enterprise, and personal responsibility. Fascism opposes each of these.

    Fascists like Adolph Hitler destroy Liberty, free enterprise, and personal responsibility. Fascism and Marxism are the two Far Left components of Socialism.

    “Nazism” is “National Socialism” and arose from the “National German Workers’ Party” and later became the “National Socialist German Workers’ Party.” Such words are not used to identify those political ideologies that exist on the Right.

  • Fascism is more government control, Not less.

    It doesn’t make any sense that the far right includes libertarianism (very little government control) and even further to the right, Fascism (more government control with one centralized leader and person in control). Anarchy (no government) is more far right than left any day and fascism falls in line with socialism and communism with ideas of total government control. Wake up.

  • Fascism and communism are two flavors of the same end.

    Fascism, Simply put, Is government control of the means of production. Communism is government ownership of the means of production. For all practical purposes, This is the same thing. If the government can control the product of your efforts, Then it can legitimately control everything else in your life. You can "own" property or a business under fascism but if the government tells you what to produce, At what quantities, To be sold to whom and at what price, Then do you really own it? No. Both communism and fascism are left-wing; they just do the same thing slightly differently. The end is always the same.

    Think of it this way: if communism were left wing but fascism right wing, Then where are the libertarians? In the middle? That makes no sense? Actually, They're not even on this spectrum itself; it's either hardcore left or hardcore right or some "moderate" in the middle, Right? The political spectrum is (correctly) communism/fascism on one end (no freedom/ total government control) and anarchy on the other (complete freedom/ no government whatsoever).

    The notion that fascism is "right-wing" comes from Stalin himself. In the latter years of the Comintern -- the Soviet-run front for world revolution -- just prior to and in the early years of WWII, There became a schism between members of the Comintern and the Soviets running the Comintern. Because a lot of the other members were nationalist in their desire to see communism in their own country and didn't care that much for world revolution, This put them at odds with Stalin, Who (though he openly manipulated the Comintern for Soviet foreign policy ends) kept insisting that the mission of the Comintern was WORLD revolution. Eventually, The disputes within the organization reached a point where Stalin stated that those who opposed him were to his political RIGHT and were supporters of fascism.

    The legion of fellow travelers within the world media got the memo and thus, Fascism became RIGHT-wing. Think not? Then why isn't the terms "left-wing" and "right-wing" in widespread use before the late 1930s/ early 1940s -- that is, Before Stalin's declaration? Check it out.

  • Facist always rule wanting social equality and egalitarianism as justification of rule over the individual

    All famous facsist leaders are from leftist ideology, They start form a movement in the basis offorcing people to be equal, The main ideology driving them at its core is liberalism, Opposite of right wing ideology where they are driven by republican ideologies wich basis is to fix the problems of egalitarianism

  • Facist always rule wanting social equality and egalitarianism as justification of rule over the individual

    All famous facsist leaders are from leftist ideology, They start form a movement in the basis offorcing people to be equal, The main ideology driving them at its core is liberalism, Opposite of right wing ideology where they are driven by republican ideologies wich basis is to fix the problems of egalitarianism

  • Fascism has always been left wing

    Fascism & Communism are both the same. That the government is more important than the individual. The individual is owned by the government, The individual has no rights except those given by the government.

    There is one and only one difference between fascism and communism- the fascism model gave the false perception of property ownership to companies. In that, They could be privately owned. However the company would have to take direction from the government and must serve the government needs. So essentially the company owner was a “Dunsel” - a puppet with no power or control or real ownership of the company.

    Communists never gave anyone this false perception and just flat out made it known that citizens could not own any property.

    Both Russia and Germany went to war together. Both were totalitarian dictatorships and both wanted to carve up Europe and rule it under force. Only when both Hitler and Stalin began to fear one another, By signals sent to both by England to sow mistrust, Did both leftist regimes go to war against one another. 2 leftists fighting for domination

    The only Right wing is Capitalism & The Free Market.

    Fascism is in fact fully Left Wing

  • Racism has nothing to do with Fascism.

    Ultimately left-wing is considered to be pro-a powerful centralized State (or government. ) Right-wing is considered to be pro-a powerful morality (example like a religious organization or cult. )

    When the founders of Fascism sold their politics to the people, Communism was on the rise. However, People were afraid of going full communist. So they watered it down. They said "you can still own your business, But you have to check with the central authority to make sure we need that product/service, You will sell it at this cost, You will hire these people, Etcetera. " It became a foundation of Nothing Against the State, Everything in the State, And Everything for the State. Basically, Communism Light.

    Now some will argue - "what about Hitler's racism! " Okay fine. Hitler himself was racist. That does not mean everyone who believed in Fascism was a racist any more than every liberal in America must be a racist because Andrew Jackson was, Or Jefferson Davis was. Racism has about as much to do with Fascism as apples do to with fruit salad. Yea, It might be there, Or it might not.

    Now right wing extremism would be like Iran or the Amish. Religious or cult extremes would be indicators of right wing extremism. Again, Some of these could be racist or not - racism has nothing to do with the political climate.

  • Left has forgotten its roots in progressive

    Leftists are facists today because they shut down speech, Control all aspects of life their way, And are anarchistic in their approach to achieve. . . . Something undefined as yet.
    Their lack of respect for all religions is a hallmark of facism, In that facists must be the arbiters of thought. God is not a leadership they desire. And I say all, Because the left's current love of islam is purely for opposition cause, I. E. They like the way their opponents react to their blind love of islam even though its principals are against their own stated ones.

  • Its actually most accurate to leave off the left/right definition because it can manifest as either

    But the reality is that it has consistently been most able to secure real power coming from the left. As little as left wingers like to admit this, Yes, Hitler was a socialist, Mussolini had communist leanings, And Stalin and Mao were ultimately fascist in their actions. If it has to be f=defined as left or right, It is leftwing.

  • Fascism is of the left

    Fascism is of the left the real fascists are on the left the left wants to keep racism and prejudice alive

    Fascism is for big government

    Fascism is gun control

    Fascism is for abortion

    Fascism is for total control

    Fascism is socialism through national identity

    Ethnic nationalism + socialism + big government + gun control + abortion + total control + racism and other forms of extreme prejudice = fascism

  • The meat of the matter. . .

    Fascism was created by a previously lifelong Marxist agitator and revolutionary nationalism was a left-wing concept before internationalism supplanted it as the cutting edge by the turn of the 20th Century. He admitted in an interview with Ivanoe Fossani on March 25, 1945 for “Solioquy for Freesom” that Fascism was his conception of socialism adapted to thrive in reality after he felt history had discredited aspects of Marxist doctrine. And given that every so called Communist regime like modern China, North Korea and Cuba turned if not started as something indistinguishable from Fascism with nationalist, Corporatist, Militarist, Dictatorial and socially conservative tendencies. A trend that I’d argue grants credence to what Mussolini was saying in that interview. They certainly operate in a more Fascistic manner than any modern capitalist country does at the very least.

  • Fascism as a mass movement that wants to implement an ideology alter the established system wants to control all aspects of life is left-wing.

    Economy is planned and (at least mainly) controlled by government.

    Fascism ("ism") is an political ideology to controll masses for it´s structure is a mass movement.

    Being an progressive ideology it´s always unhappy with the status quo - it wants to alter reality to their kind of Utopia. Like the soviets (see their ideal of the "New Soviet Man") the Nazis had their ideal of Germans.

    Militarisation is no indicator for "right wing" - you´ll find it in the USA as well in the former USSR, China, Kuba, North Korea, Etc.

    Socialism is Socialism - no matter of "national" of "international".

    "Tratitional values" were not supported by Fascism: The Catholic Church eg. , Which definitely stands for "traditionel values" was disempowered - like in all the other socialist countries. And using "traditional" words or phrases for political purposes by the way doesn´t make you a "Traditional".

    Incidentally Religion in socialist systems is always replaced by an ideology.

  • Progressivism is Totalitarianism

    The only real difference between fascism and socialism/communism is that under fascism private ownership of the means of production is allowed, Though heavily regulated and essentially controlled by the government. The truth is fascism/socialism/communism were all inspired by the American progressive movement of the late 19th and early 20th century.

    The progressive movement began with the premise that the majority of citizens are an inferior class who are not qualified to make important decisions and thus must be controlled by a ruling class (progressives). This is why they push ideas like government control of wages, Prices, Healthcare etc.

    The ultimate goal of progressives has always been to establish a totalitarian government. This was to be accomplished by controlling the flow of information and indoctrinating young people with progressive propaganda. Today we see this with the corruption of the institutions of mass media and academia.

    It also seems disingenuous for people to claim that extreme nationalism is only found in conservative or right leaning ideologies. It should be pointed out that Woodrow Wilson (one of the first progressive politicians) while he was President used the propaganda of Edward Bernays, To foment extreme nationalism and lead the United States into WWI. Not surprisingly, Wilson is often referred to as America's first fascist president.

    Wilson was also responsible for reversing policies that had integrated many federal offices and even hosted a private screening in the White House of "Birth of a Nation" a movie glorifying the KKK. This shouldn't surprise anyone since a majority of the early progressives were virulent racists. In fact, The racism of the fascists was, Like totalitarianism, Inspired by the American Progressive movement.

  • The fascist Party supported always the working class

    Thank to the Facist Party italian workers could benefit the pension.
    Thank to the Fascist Party italian workers could rent propr houses at a very low rent.
    Thank to the Fascist Party italian children could go on holidays free of charge.
    Thank to the Fascist Party italian workers worked 40 hours per week instead of 48.
    Thank to the Fascist Party italian unwealthy children could attend secondary school free of charge.
    Thank to the Fascist Party italian workers could benefit an insurance designed for protecting them on case of accidents.
    I could go on listing the "left wing" actions of the Italian Fascist Party in favor to people but I think these relevant examples are sufficoent.

  • Of course its left wing

    Left wing is big government control. The farther left you go the more government. Right wing is small government. The farther right you go the less government. Far left is communism where government controls all. Far right is anarch where there is no government. Fascism has big government control. Its left wing no question.

  • Fascism is Left-Wing

    In truth Socialism is divided 2 groups, The Internationalists and the Nationalists, Nationalists want a country's workers to united and make a large government to serve the country's people (welfare in nazi germany, Government work projects and distribution of wealth in italy), But because they care only for there people, The nationalists are heavily racist and commit genocide on different people (holocaust), Internationalists want the world's workers to united and to make a large government to help push global internationalist socialist world order, But they give little shit to the country's people they rule over and regularly starve and kill there own people, They will even kill different people as well if they have the opportunity (holodomor). Both internationalist and nationalist hate capitalism, Free trade, Freedom of speech, Freedom of movement, Freedom of religion (nazis actually hate christians), Basically freedom in general, Self ownership, Freedom of thought, Gun ownership, Private banks, Private property, Individualism, Basically anything that is not socialistic, Both like big government, Welfare, Secret police, And they both want to achieve a socialist utopia, The reason why the "mussolini and hitler is far right" myth is still around is really simple, The left does not want to look too bad, After wwii, The world saw the horrors of the holocaust, If the world rightfully pin the blame at leftists, The leftists would be screwed, So they manufactured the myth of nazis and Italy being far right.

  • Fascism is a far-left ideology

    We need to understand what left wing ideology is; high level of centralised authority. Individual freedom (a right wing ideology) in fascist state is kept to a minimum. Look at the markets, Are they free market (right wing), Or are they controlled by the state (left wing). State owned the companies, There was no true free market. The mentality of left wing is the group is more important than the individual, And fascists displayed that in it's extreme form.
    Fascism is left wing. Change my mind.

  • Fascism holds characteristics of both right and left wings, But those of the latter outweigh significantly those of the first.

    It is important to note that fascism has not only been present in Italy, But in tens of countries around the globe. Marxism is not a synonym with the far left, But rather an ideology that is far left. The left was born before that with the secularization of France and the ideas of French Enlightenment philosophers like Rousseau and Robespierre.
    Giovanni Gentile, The man who idealized fascism, Was a socialist, Who simply replaced the significance of classes with the significance of nations. Mussolini did not call his party socialist in parallel to how North Korea and DRC are said to be a republic and democratic, But, In contrast, Mussolini, In his younger years, Was a Marxist.

    Right wing characteristics of fascism:
    - Nationalism,
    - View that one nation is superior than others,
    - Military strength,
    - Idea that egalitarianism is not ideal (though the exact opposite was present in many fascist governments outside of Italy).

    Left wing characteristics of fascism:
    - Focus on the group in detriment of the individual,
    - Swollen and powerful state,
    - State ownership of multiple companies,
    - Centralization of power, Which transfers state and municipal sovereignty to the federal government,
    - Increase in worker's rights (Mussolini fought unions due to his fear of losing power, But several fascist movements around the globe grew them intensely. Mussolini founded the National-Syndicalist Union),
    - Heavy regulatory burden hindering the free market,
    - Direct state interventions in the economy meant to promote growth (parallel to Keynes' ideas rather than Freedman's),
    - Restriction of individual liberties for the sake of the majority,
    - Censorship (present today in the left with the guidelines of deterring hate speech),
    - Disregard for tradition and the past (as an example Brazilian fascist dictator Vargas who demonized the monarchical period and fought for it to be forgotten),
    - Disregard for Judeo-Christian ethics (as the moral compass would be based on whether the analysed action or idea is positive or not for the State, Similar in communist dictatorships),
    - Controlled press (a characteristic of the extreme left).

  • Fascism is a Government heavy system just like all left wing ideology.

    It's roots are buried deep in Socialism and Marxism. The difference is the former believe the citizens will revolt against the system and Fascism believes that the government should force revolt. Fascism embraces ideological re-programming, Mind control and propaganda to control the populace as much as Socialism, Marxism or Progressivism. The difference is that the agenda is government driven rather than populace driven. All are non-democratic and believe in crushing any difference of opinion.

  • Modern liberalism (socialism) and fascism are closer to each other than either is close to capitalism ( Classical liberalism)

    Nazism and Communism don't differ ideologically, As both aspired to control the market, Both fundamental to Socialism. All forms of Socialism have been bitter rivals as all imposed visions which allow for no room for for similar aims.

    In Hitler's Germany and Mussolini's Italy the means of production was in the palm of the state. The difference between their governments and the Communist regimes of China and Russia is simple: in the totalitarian states of Hitler & Mussolini, The state lied to businessmen about the nature of the market, By allowing them the belief that their property was theirs. In every historical instance where a businessman went to make a decision which countered the absolute rule of the Fascist/Nazi parties, The state overrided, Often with violent results.

    Corporatism is the economic policy of Fascism, Not Capitalism. Corporatism: totalitarianism where the state makes arbitrary and often entirely dictatorial market decisions, But in in some areas lets the market run however it chooses (as opposed to top-down Socialism, Which dictates all market prices).

    Corporatism: centralized, Autocratic society

    Capitalism: individual based and free society

    There is no longer a free market when the state controls all of the means of production. State ownership of the means of production is the definition of Socialism.
    A central function of the Nazi state was redistribution of wealth, A core Socialist feature.

    What defines the Corporatist market of Fascism is the entity of a "Corporation". The biggest Corporation is the Corporation of the State. . . And it's that Corporation which is meant to control society. So in other words, Fascism is a market-rhetoric play on the idea of Socialism.

  • Gentile, Fascism's father

    Gentile is a communitarian and life-long socialist, Not an individualist. A man of the Left, He recommends individuals subordinate themselves to the state: the antithesis of conservatism; speaks directly to leftist activists in the DNC.
    Fascism is nothing more than modified socialism, Supporting corporatism over capitalism, Majority over the minority.

  • Left wing/ Leftist

    While commonly referred to as right wing, Modern left wing parties have more in common with fascists (disarming the population, Opposing religion, State run social programs, Compelled speech, Just to name a few). It is only called right wing because it was right of the communists in WWII. Fascism is associated with Adolf Hitler, And Hitler hated the communists despite sharing 90% of their ideology

  • If fascism ever comes to America, It will come in the name of liberalism.

    Fascism is private ownership, Private enterprises, Total government control and regulation. Isn't that the liberal philosophy? Conservatives are less government, Get off my back, Get out of my pocket and let me choose what to do with my own destiny - Ronald Reagan

    Antifa is not helping this case, Neither is the left constantly wanting censorship, Imposing restrictions on people in the name of the non existent hate speech, And trying to remove free-speech.

  • Seems completely left

    Socialist economics which is left. Targeting a group because of their "privilege" and the bad things they have supposedly done is left. Most conservatives would be fine with completely removing sex and race from law's and prefer individualism. During the time American left wing had Jim Crow law's which seems more relatable to fascism than conservatives. Even to this day the left has "positive discrimination" and if that doesn't sound fascist I don't know what does.

  • Fascism and communism is a rock and a hard place for the free-market

    Right as determined by free market wasn’t something considered as important as the highest imperative was to that of the nation. This ethos naturally leans towards the collectivist as seen in the 1936 enforced retail price they were just subtle than the Communist approach. Nazi ideology differs from fascism in the Italian sense as they shifted towards corporatism; a collaboration between industry and worker. It was supported by many capitalists as the large contracts and opposition to Bolshevism is superficially seen as a better alternative.

  • The technical historical definition of fascism is missing the point.

    The left-wing have an authoritarian mindset and no tolerance for opposing views, In addition to wanting the government to be in control of everything.

    Left-wing politics are the opposite of classical liberalism in every way. Currently the strategy is to simply demonize anyone who they disagree with as a means of winning the argument. There is no place for debate or questions. Conform or be cast out.

    These are the people who were prepared to ruin a minior's life over a short clip taken out of context. The left-wing went into a frenzy labeling this young man with every manner of privilege and the demonizing chant because he was wearing a hat. Well, It turned out that everything the Native American man said was a bald faced lie and he does this kind of thing a lot. The Black Israelites who were shouting actual hate speech at and about several of the left-wing's pet groups were totally ignored.

    So this is the current left-wing, People who try to ruin a minor's life over a lie they eagerly believe, Or throw a milkshake on an 82 year old veteran for voting. If these people had the power they are destroying the world to get we are all screwed.

  • The far left support totalitarianism.

    For the far left to call themselves "liberal" is laughable. The entire movement has shifted towards less freedom, Less free speech, Less individuality and more militant enforcement of group think.

    The modern discourse isn't to have a debate and take a reasoned position. It is to dox them, Throw a brick through their store window or toss a milkshake on an 82 year old man. There is nothing liberal about that.

  • The “antifa” movement is example of fascism.

    Anyone that holds a “right wing” view in politics will always went to discuss with anyone why they hold these views and normally backs their point up, With facts and critical thought. The opposite can be said of anyone on the left, Who usually resort to shouting facist or nazi, Without understanding the true meanings of these two words.

  • Collectivism’s Always Leftwing

    Right-wing does embrace nationalism and tradition. So these are the only tenets that Marxist extremists and their propagandists in academia use to label Fascism as right-wing. But, Ultimately the characteristics between fascism and communism are very similar. Both are collectivism ideologies where the state controls the economy, Although Fascism allows private ownership at the direction of a totalitarian government. But, Neither are big promoters of small government, Individual liberty, And private property rights that are the hallmark of right wing ideology. It’s basically a false dichotomy created by Marxists to make you choose between two extremist totalitarian forms of government. I choose NEITHER! I want to be FREE to choose my own path and own my own property.

  • Fascism is LEFT Wing

    It is pathetic to see so many ignorant scholars who portray fascism as right wing. Simply being a nationalist is fascism. But that is not true. Nationalism is putting your country first, And your loyalty is to your country, NOT your govnerment or political party. Fascism relies on using force in the form of a POLICE STATE. A police state is when the government controls the police, Uses the police to spy and arrest those who have differing views of the controlling party or government, And thus freedom of speech, Press, Petition, Religion, And assemble are gone. Individual rights are replaced with a collective. Hence, Fascist governments have always been either socialist or communism. Fascism is another term that has the same meaning as communism. Both are DESPOTIC governments (tyranny). The political spectrum is misleading and useless. The Founding Fathers would be dismayed that our country measures views based on political affiliation. They used the Law Spectrum, Which measures how much political power a government has over its people. That would make fascism LEFTIST because all of these governments used fear, Propaganda, And intimidation to control the people. They silenced anyone who dared to disagree with the controlling party. Socialism and communism are on the left, And essentially all types of governments are leftist except for a republic (Liberty or People's Law). Democracy is the worst form of government. As Thomas Jefferson once said, A democracy allows 51% of the population to take the rights away from 49% of the population. The majority FORCE the minorty to agree or follow their rules. This was the way it happened in The French Revolution as the nation used democracy to create a socialist state. They formed a collective and when one disagreed, They were often executed during the Reign of Terror. Thus democracy focuses on groups rather than the individual (Jean Rousseau said that one must agree with the will of the majority and once he does, He will be forced to be free). How does forcing one to agree with the majority symbolize freedom? Democracy essentially says either you are with us or against us. People having differing views and should not be forced to go against their conscious. Fascism is NOT conservative, Nor is it right wing. When governments control the people using a military or police state, And treat the populace as a collective rather than an individual (which is what a republic does because it protects ALL people's rights treating them as individuals) they are always on the left.

  • On which left - right scale?

    Fascism is national socialism and Communism is international socialism. They all called themselves socialists and anti-capitalist. Today, Fascism falls under left wing ideology. Both communism and Fascism are variants of statism, In contrast to a free country based on individual rights and laissez-faire capitalism.

    To quote Ayn Rand in a letter written on March 19, 1944, Ayn Rand remarked: “Fascism, Nazism, Communism and Socialism are only superficial variations of the same monstrous theme—collectivism. ”

    The left wing politics want an equality of material wealth, Which both the centralized governments of the Soviet Union and National Socialist Worker's Party wanted. Both pursued that so vehemently they killed the estimated combined 40 - 60 million "unequal" people within their own society.

    We shouldn't trivialize what these dangerous pursuits to utopias were.

    To quote FA Hayek
    "Fascism is the stage reached after communism has proved an illusion. "

    "While an equality of rights under a limited government is possible and an essential condition of individual freedom, A claim for equality of material position can be met only by a government with totalitarian powers. "

    BTW. . . Somewhat relevant to this debate from Wikipedia:

    Liberal conservatism incorporates the classical liberal view of minimal government intervention in the economy, According to which individuals should be free to participate in the market and generate wealth without government interference. [2] However, Individuals cannot be thoroughly depended on to act responsibly in other spheres of life, Therefore liberal conservatives believe that a strong state is necessary to ensure law and order and social institutions are needed to nurture a sense of duty and responsibility to the nation. [2] They also support civil liberties, Along with some social conservative positions. In Europe liberal conservatism is the dominant form of contemporary conservatism and centre-right politics.

    Current parties:
    United Kingdom: Conservative Party (See Conservatism in the United Kingdom)
    United States: Republican Party

    https://en. M. Wikipedia. Org/wiki/Liberal_conservatism

    At least something factual from Wikipedia.

  • Left-Wing isn't completely fascist, But more than right-wing.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but the push for affirmative action (a system that gives people of certain RACE more power over other races when getting into collage) comes from the left? That's racist even if it's "helping" minorities.

    While many people are making the argument that the NAZI's were considered right-wing, It's not a good comparison because that's in the past and you can't judge something based on only part of it.

    Left-wing also pushes for more socialist policies. While it isn't a complete "autocracy, " it's certainly closer than a republic.

    *as a foot note, I know that not every person who is considered "left-wing" pushes for some of my examples, But I had to use some generalizations. Some policies that are considered "left-wing" I support but overall I think the left is more fascist then the "right-wing. "

  • Fascism is left-wing

    Fascism was first used in italy by benito mousillini which was someone hitler completely idolized and something that he brought into germany. Now the main difference between right wing and left wing is that right wing is for more limited government and left wing is for more government involvement especially in the economy. Now lets think of some forms of economy that are right wing ideas. Capitalism is the most popular form of economy for conservatives and capitalism is an economy based on the free market system. The free market system is all for the government to stay out of the economy. For example, The freedom of competition, The people to run the economy, The freedom of career choice, Etc. Hitler is often called a right wing capitalist which is the opposite of what he is. Nazi germany had a government run economy, Jews couldnt compete with german business, And eventually the jews couldnt even be a worker in germany in general which is everything the free market system is against hence everything capitalism is against. Fascism is also for totalitorian rule which would be more left wing because more government involvement is literally one of the biggest parts of being a leftist.

  • Just Look at Mussulinis Italy

    Just because the original facists were on the far right, Doesnt mean they still affiliate with the right.

    Just like democrats and republicans have basically traded ideological places over time, So has facism flipped.

    Not sure about anybody else, But the far left is literally doing the same things that got Mussolini in power.

    Facism is a way of attaining and keeping power, Not a political affiliation.

  • Fascism is left

    It is extreme government intervention which is exactly the opposite of modern day conservatives as they wish for the least government involvement possible. Socialism, Communism, And fascism are all different departments of the same company some simply more extreme than others. To present fascism as left wing is very absurd.

  • Like democratic socialism, Fascism is consistently recharacterized to fit a certain narrative.

    The goal of fascism is to have both industry and individual effort in service of the State. Unlike socialism, Where a persons social class is paramount, Fascism utilizes both class and nationalism to reach its goals. State-run industry and individual effort is key in both fascism and socialism, Making both a leftist ideology.

  • Fascism is definitely left

    Because the further you move to the the right from the center if the political spectrum the less government is called for until you move way right into no government and total anarchy. So trying to say Fascism is on the right is absurd it asks the people to accept to many controls by government and industry.

  • Of course its left wing.

    The essence of the differences between left and right is simply the difference between state control and individual freedom. There is very little that's individualistic about fascism, Its about creating a strong single group namely the state and sometimes with reference to the Nazis, A single race as well. It is collectivist in nature which is a central tenant of many forms of Marxism. It has only been placed on the proverbial right because of the prevailing political wind that blows through academia, Comes from the left and as such they have structured the debate to what suits them. This is why you have terms like progressive and regressive that favour left wing ideals and its the reason you can wear a Che Guevara T shirt or fly the hammer and sickle despite the fact that communism has been responsible for more unnecessary misery and death than any other ideology.

  • The Left wing has taken the crown of Fascism!

    Fascism of old was described as Far Right, That has changed, Today there are hardly any real Far Right groups, Yes there's small pockets, But nothing widespread. Whereas the Left Wing has taken that crown, They will confront any group no matter their political leaning if that group does not fit in with the Left wing Marxist ideologies, They are prepared to become violent, They cover their faces dress in black in a paramilitary fashion, They term people as xenophobes and racist as a matter of course and gaslighting is rampant and this will lead to violence verbal or physical if challenged successfully.

    They are quick to label ordinary people as Far Right if they complain about immigration or open borders, Or Islam and terrorism even if these people are very much affected, Even though the numbers arriving here are unprecedented, And a rape epidemic is occurring across the country and many cities and towns have no go areas, Or the large numbers of people that are affected by terrorism.

    The Left Wing are supposedly anti pollution, Anti capitalist, Environmental warriors and champions of climate change, But completely ignore the fact that the sheer numbers arriving here in Europe are having a detrimental environmental effect, The immigrants are coming from low carbon footprint countries into our high carbon footprint countries. They are also being funded by the very Capitalists and Banksters they are supposedly against, Especially George Soros and his NGO's, Some of these uber wealthy people are the very ones destroying the planet via their factories, Industries, Mining, Wars, Poverty, Deforestation and pollution of the air, Seas and land, And this is where you start getting the picture that the Left wing is sort of divided into sections each sort of blinded to the other, On one side the environmental do-gooders and on the other side the violent fascists, They even call themselves anti fascists ANTIFA, Hope Not Hate, Momentum, Socialist Workers Party most are antithesis to their names or stated aims!

    God help you if you want to support UKIP which they term as Far Right, But is nothing of the sort, Just a center ground political party with policies the Left do not like, The Left wing is part of the attack being vested on the white races of Europe and are being backed up via the MSM which is mostly Left wing driven being largely owned by the same Capitalists, Then we have the EU and the Globalists again the same Capitalists and Banksters behind the facade.

    The Left wing are the thugs on the ground floor doing the dirty work, Even their main political party Labour cannot hide their fascism, Racism or that they have dumped their working class grass roots, With Diane Abbott calling White people a problem, And several members overtly anti Jewish, Jack Straw even stated the "The English race are a race not worth saving". The Left wing are a massive problem across Europe and particularly in the UK.

  • The Left wing has taken the Fascist crown.

    Fascism of old was described as Far Right, But that has changed, Today there are hardly any real Far Right groups, Yes there's small pockets, But nothing widespread. Whereas the Left Wing has taken that crown, They will confront any group no matter their political leaning if that group does not fit in with the Left wing Marxist ideologies, They are prepared to become violent, They cover their faces dress in black in a paramilitary fashion, They term people as xenophobes and racist as a matter of course and gaslighting is rampant and this will lead to violence verbal or physical if challenged successfully.

    They are quick to label ordinary people as Far Right if they complain about immigration or open borders, Or Islam and terrorism even if these people are very much affected, Even though the numbers arriving here are unprecedented, And a rape epidemic is occurring across the country and many cities and towns have no go areas, Or the large numbers of people that are affected by terrorism.

    The Left Wing are supposedly anti pollution, Anti capitalist, Environmental warriors and champions of climate change, But completely ignore the fact that the sheer numbers arriving here in Europe are having a detrimental environmental effect, The immigrants are coming from low carbon footprint countries into our high carbon footprint countries. They are also being funded by the very Capitalists and Banksters they are supposedly against, Especially George Soros and his NGO's, Some of these uber wealthy people are the very ones destroying the planet via their factories, Industries, Mining, Wars, Poverty, Deforestation and pollution of the air, Seas and land, And this is where you start getting the picture that the Left wing is sort of divided into sections each sort of blinded to the other, On one side the environmental do-gooders and on the other side the violent fascists, They even call themselves anti fascists ANTIFA, Hope Not Hate, Momentum, Socialist Workers Party most are antithesis to their names or stated aims!

    God help you if you support UKIP which they term as Far Right, But is nothing of the sort, Just a center ground political party with policies the Left do not like, The Left wing is part of the attack being vested on the white races of Europe and are being backed up via the MSM which is mostly Left wing driven being owned by the same Capitalists, Then we have the EU and the Globalists the same Capitalists and Banksters behind the facade.

    The Left wing, I haven't even described them as Far Left are the thugs on the ground floor doing the dirty work, Even their main political party Labour cannot hide their fascism, Racism or that they have dumped their working class grass roots, With Diane Abbott calling White people a problem, And several members overtly anti Jewish, Jack Straw even stated the "The English race are a race not worth saving". The Left wing are a massive problem in the UK.

  • Fascism has always been left wing, And has nothing to do with Race

    Fascism, By the way, Is not the same as Nazism. Hitler very rarely used the term fascist. Read Mein Kampf. You will hardly find that term ever used. Mussolini, Who was the prototypical fascist, Never called himself a “National Socialist. ” So, Fascism and National Socialism are somewhat different. They’re related. Essentially the main difference is that National Socialism was, At its core, Racist. National Socialism was anti-Semitic. National Socialism drew a racial line that fascism never drew.

    For example, The Italian fascists were a lot less racist than, For example, The American Democratic Party.

  • Forceful oppression of free speech

    When the left diagrees with an opinion, Often times they'll resort to forceful practices in order to silence these "hateful", "rascist", "sexist" ideologies. Take Australia for example, Lauren Southern, A Canadian journalist was billed $68 000 for having to employ the police to protect her when the left wing "protestors" were trying to attack her. This isn't the only instance as the left prevents conservative meetings by invading in mobs. Blasting white noise and chanting nonsense is common nowadays, And the western liberal democracies of the world just sit by and let it happen, As they are scared to act. The left are the real fascists here.

  • Antifa is Fascism

    They shut everyone up if they don't agree with them, And they are so far left. The argument that right wingers are fascist is just another useless far left argument used to gain voters on November 8. I know people consider far right people fascist, And this has got to stop. #LiberalHateBlightsHumanity'sFuture

  • Fascism is left-wing

    If the left is about equality and the right is about darwinian meritocracy, Then Fascism is just an argument on how to get there. Nazi Germany wanted equality. They wanted corporate control of private business. What stood in their way? Successful Capitalist Jews. What was their solution? Remove the jews, Kill them, Seize their business, And now everyone is equal.

  • Giovanni Gentile the father of Fascism was a Socialist

    The only two aspects of Fascism that are not tenants of modern socialist are nationalism and racism. While nationalism is a often a right wing characteristic racism is not. If fact a compelling case can be made that racism is a left wing value. Prior to the 1960s racism was rampant in the leftist ideology as demonstrated by the democratic party positions up to the late 1960s. The predominant media (news, Movies, TV) and liberal culture present racist views as right wing but right wing values are rooted individual liberty, Accountability and capitalism. In fact, A case could be made that the left continues to hold racist views but evolved them to an anti-european phase as the demographic of the left have changed.

  • Creators of Fascism were all Leftist from Mussolini to Hitler.

    Creators of Fascism were all Leftist from Mussolini to Hitler.

    Fascist called themselves socialist, They acted like socialist, And their leaders & members always seem to come from other socialist parties.

    To claim As modern leftist do that they hijacked the term socialist is to ignore not only what they are doing but why they said they were doing it and where they came from.

    To say nothing of overlooking the unavoidable consequences of socialism (Really any form of extreme collectivism). If you need to compel obedience for a common goal using the state that means force to subjugate or eliminate anyone not comparable or compliant with said goals.
    With the German National socialist that included ethic minorities like the Jews, But with all socialist it includes various political rivals and enemies of the leaders in power.

    The Extreme right by contrast believes in the opposite no government and collective goals of any kind, Just a bunch of individuals doing what they want in more perfect freedom. What we might call Anarchy or a state of Nature when taken to its greatest possible extreme. This of course isn't sustainable very long, As men invariably organize themselves into gangs to steal from or enslave their neighbors. As America's founding fathers pointed out if all men were saints(thus not willing to do that) there would be no need for government.

    This is why American Conservatives are actual Liberals anywhere else in the world. America started out in a very liberal place.

    Unfortunately in politics parties and factions frequently take the name which is the opposite of their believes.

  • Naziism embraces every aspect of Left Wing Politics

    Hitler believed women should be stupid, And served one purpose, Bearing children. He did not like women to have opinions, Wear pants or smoke cigarettes. There is countless articles that substantiate thirst facts. As far as the Nazi Party was concerned, Women had one use. Bear children.
    He believed that the government was to be in control of every aspect of the people’s lives, Even their vacations were inspired to promote more love for country and Nazi party.
    Hitler and Naziism hate organized religion, Their party is described as the only true religion.
    The Nazi Party took over the all radio, Broadcasts only could be local, No foreign programs were allowed, So much so that the Nazis had radios made and sold cheaply to encourage all Germans to own one. This way they could listen only to the Führer.
    Their department of propaganda and enlightenment run by Joseph Goebbels promoted Naziism through every form of print there was in Germany. The State ran the news, There were naziis installed as reporters, Everything was cooordinated so all people heard only one message. Like it is today with main stream media in the US. The Nazis took over the movie industry in Germany producing only German National films that supported Hitler ideals.
    The founding Fathers of the USA believed in one God, Freedom and equality for all, And freedom of rights, The powers belonging to the people, Not the government. In fact the Constitution is diametrically opposed to everything the Nazi Party stands for, Especially hatred of capitalism and the free market.
    For those of you who think that Naziism is right wing I suggest you dig a little deeper than wikkipedia for your source.
    Thank you.

  • More Government Control = Left Wing

    Government programs, Benefits and handouts in return for freedom of choice.

    Example 1: right wing = the right to bear arms to protect and defend against an enemy at home or abroad. Left wing = Outlaw personal firearms and control the populace with an internal military like Nazi Germany.

    Example 2: right wing = the freedom of speech such as the teaching and quoting of the Bible even if it speaks against things such as homosexuality. Left wing = constrict, Prohibit or punish so called hate speech and literature such as the teaching, Preaching or practicing of Biblically moral principals.

  • Look at the origin of the word

    The root word for Fascism is fasci. The earliest fasci were democratic or socialist popular movements, Most prominently the Fasci sicilian (more fully Fasci siciliani dei lavoratori, ‘Sicilian Workers' League’). Subsequently, Political organizations of this kind became associated with nationalist and anti-communist groups, Especially those formed and led by Benito Mussolini.

    So the earliest fascist where socialist that didn't like communism. Seeing how socialism is a left-wing ideology fascism, Therefore, Is left-wing.

  • Look at the origins of the word

    The root word for Fascism is fasci. The earliest fasci were democratic or socialist popular movements, Most prominently the Fasci sicilian (more fully Fasci siciliani dei lavoratori, ‘Sicilian Workers' League’). Subsequently, Political organizations of this kind became associated with nationalist and anti-communist groups, Especially those formed and led by Benito Mussolini.

    So the earliest fascist where socialist that didn't like communism. Seeing how socialism is a left-wing ideology fascism, Therefore, Is left-wing.

  • Yes it is based on power of government and economics

    Fascist are basically at the end of the day are racist socialists Hitler seized means of production under the government and had complete government control of people's person lives. Communism is far leftist and internationalist while fascism is far leftist and nationalist extremist. A far right regime would be anarchy because right wing politics call for a smaller government and a free economy while left wing politics argue for more government control and a restricted economy. Some people may claim fascism is right wing because of white nationalism but white nationalism doesn't have any political position, Political positions are based usually on two criteria: government size and economics which white nationalism has no policy on those two. Race as a political position sounds insanely stupid in today's world, As in my eye it ended in America when the civil rights act was signed into office. Fascism wants the state in control of business and personal life, In fascism, In that ideology it wanted to control the personal lives of those people it wanted control of societies fascism wasn't conservative or liberal it was authoritarian and totalitarian which are the opposites to conservatism and liberalism.

  • Fascism can be both left and right wing.

    Facism is neither left or right wing: its authoritarian rather than libitarian.
    Authoritarianism is ‘favouring or enforcing strict obedience to authority at the expense of personal freedom’
    In reacent history the US and the UK have had mostly (more moderatly) Right wing, authoritarian governments. More so think Bush and Thatcher, less so Blair and Obama.
    Trump is an interesting one as he is not majorly right wing but very authoritarian. (similar to Hitler!). Stalin on the other hand was left wing (No personal economic freedom) and highly authoritarian: so a communist fascist.
    There are a few left and right wing libertarians too on the left think Jeremy Corbyn and slightly more moderate Bernie Saunders and the right Ron Paul in US, Nick Clegg and David Cameron in the UK
    The extremes of Authoritarianism are growing on both the left and right. The facist right in US and Europe and growing: think KKK and white and black supremacy groups in the USA and right authoritarian parties doing well in European elections fueled by Mass-migration for Middle East and Africa. (Front National in France, 5* in Italy, AfD in Germany, FPÖ in Austria, Freedom party in The Netherlands...The list goes on.) The right authoritarian parties in the UK (UKIP and BNP) have seen there votes collapse to nearly 0% since the 2016 Brexit vote.
    The authoritarian left is currently a very different creature. It is creating a foothold in the media and creative industries and a strong vocal base in USA and UK. They can be just a dogmatic, bigoted and extremists as their right wing cousins.
    So in conclusion the Facism has nothing to do with being left or right wing its how authoritarian (being the antonym of libertarian) the person is. Authoritarian leads to racism, bigotry and hate on both sides.

  • Fascism is neither left nor right wing

    Fascism is extreem authortarianism: the opposite of libertarianism. It is the ‘favouring or enforcing strict obedience to authority at the expense of personal freedom’
    Left wing to right wing is the increasing amount of pesonal economic freedom.
    Stalin was a left wing Authoritarian with the state controlling means of production ie communist fascist.
    Hitler on the other hand economically was more centre (for aryan males) but very very Authoritarian.
    Most politions these days are centre right with moderate Authoritarian tendancies think May (uk) H.Clinton (usa). Trump is an odd mix of moderate left and right but a strong Authoritarian. All Uk PM’s since 1979 have been Right wing with various levels of Authoritarianism. Ironically David Cameron was probably closest to being described as a libertarian but still relativly right wing (rise of liberal conservatism).
    Currently only Jeremy Corbyn identifies as a socialist libertarian.
    In the 2016 US presidential elections the candidates were both right wing-authoritarians. Trump more Authoritarian and Clinton more Libertarian: but Clinton is arguably more right wing. Bernie Saunders on the other hand is a slightly more moderate Jeremy Corbyn (centre left libertarian). Would have made a more interesting election but the US typically doesn’t vote for the true left. Even Obama was a centre right moderate authoritarian.
    In conclusion Fascism (Authoritarianism) is alive and well in Europe and North America. The rise of anti-immigration
    , anti-muslim parties have balloted well in reacent election (Le Penn in France, 5* in Italy, Afd in Germany, FPÖ in Austria. Also in Hungary, The Netherlands, Finland. In the UK anti immigrant feelings have been strirred up by Brexit and although the more Authoritarian parties UKIP and BNP have seem their support evaporate: who knows what the aftermath of Brexit may bring.
    The Left also has an authoritarian problem: decreasing acceptance of free speech. Any debate on race, gender and sexuality can be instantly and sometimes shocking put down by vocal minority who are gaining more dominance especially in the media and creative arts and of course within universities on both sides of the atlantic. They are highly skilled using social media to get their message across and will try and destroy what they see as the ruling class that is ‘privileged, white, straight and male’.

  • Absolutely leftist in nature

    Left calls all right wing fascist, but fascisim is against all religion, and the original name for nazi party was SOCIAL german worker party. Bernie, a far left praises SOCIALISM. Leftist are always demonizing israel, a primary jewish nation, somilar how hitler demonized, get this, THE JEWISH POPULATION. The left doesnt even want to give jeruselem to the jews which historically was buolt by the jews, and is a holy city to the jews. There would be public outrage if we were to try to take mecca, an islamic holy city, away. Left is supporting of islam, and hitler himself said i wish they(an islamic caliphate) won the battle of tours. Now for nationalism. Nationalism is a beast of its own, bieng a positive experience for america bringing it to power, and negative destroying most of europe in 2 world wars. During ww1 british french germans and americans were all nationalist. During the civil war, left confederacy and right union both were nationalistic, both willing to fight for and take pride in their own countries, so does that mean the union and confederacy were both fascist? How does that make any sense.

  • Fascism is diametrically opposed to the ideas of both the right and left but has more resemblance to the left wing,

    The definition you’re using is recent and false. Instead of googling it for 2 seconds scroll down to merriam Webster and you’ll see a more accurate definition. Merriam Webster is based off a book that has been around since 1828, almost 200 years so it’s a reliable place to go for definitions. The definition of fascism is as follows:

    “A political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition”

    “exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government” is referring to placing the needs of the collective above the needs and personal freedoms of the individual, which is undeniably a hallmark of the left wing.

    “Society’s needs must come before the individual’s needs”

    -Adolf Hitler.

    We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society.“

    -Hillary Clinton.

    “forcible suppression of opposition” self-evidently refers to legal restrictions on free speech which I shouldn’t even have to explain is left wing.

    The right is far more Christian than the left and we know that Mussolini, despite being forced to cooperate with the Catholics, was bitterly against religion and used to refer to priests as “black flies”

    To conclude:

    it can’t be far right, because fascism is big gov and the farther right you go the smaller government gets until you have anarcho-capitalism.

    We know fascism is anti freedom, anti capitalism and anti religion, pro big government and has a lot of economic resemblance to socialism so it must be very far left wing,

  • On a linear political spectrum, yes. The triangular political spectrum is a much better representation of this.

    When you look at the way a linear political spectrum works, it tends to fluctuate between individualism and collectivism. Fascism was geared toward the state and greater regulation. It was a collectivist ideology. The creator of fascism, Giovanni Gentile, described it as Communism with a splash of nationalism. On the other hand, ideologies seen as more "right" tend to focus on individualism. As long as no one's rights are infringed upon, all is well. The triangular political spectrum weighs three prominent characteristics of an ideology: equality, liberty, and fraternity. On this spectrum, fascism is a fraternal society which isn't from from a communist society or a nationalist society.

  • Far Right is Anarchy not Fascism: We Must use a Sensible Political Scale!

    In France, where the terms originated, the Left has been called "the party of movement," and the Right, "the party of order." There is not much I want to borrow from France sense I'm in the United States, and I don't mean Louisiana. Besides, how is it “Right” to be the Party of Order? There is a Hell of a lot of ORDER in China, North Korea and the old USSR. In fact, it is pretty clear that the further to the Left, the more "Order" that there is -- so much so that many have complained . . . And were never heard from again!

    There is obviously not a consensus on the proper Left-Right scale to use: Although there is nearly a consensus among political science professors through use of a complicated contortionist scale that works for little else than putting Fascists on the Right (in a few more years they will have consensus among them as the Right-leaning PolySci professors are nearly gone from academia).

    The correct way of labeling Right and Left is to unhinge it from France or any location or time (it is not Conservative or Liberal, since those terms inherently depend on your location and the time period you are looking at).

    The only non-contortionist way to measure Left / Right politics or to put systems or policies on a Left / Right scale --- is to draw a graph for government control and place at the far Right 0% and at the far Left 100%: Then ask how much control by government is required for any particular system or policy. If the system or policy requires some government supervision or enforcement, then it moves the government to the left each time.

    Using this proper scale would also require that any religiously influenced government-required regulation, regardless of whether it compels to act or not to act, pushes you further to the left. Any theocracy would inherently be leftist, even if it is based on atheism (if it prohibited religious expression). Obviously, you can't be all the way to the right and be pro-life or pro-choice -- if the right to life or the right to choose is protected or enforced by government, then it moves you to the left because it requires policing: And the more policing that is required, the further to the left.

    I'm making no judgment on how much policing is right or correct: But clearly Fascism, as we commonly understand it, requires a lot of policing and a lot of government.

  • Anarchy is the extreme right, not Fascism!

    In France, where the terms originated, the Left has been called "the party of movement," and the Right, "the party of order." There is not much I want to borrow from France sense I'm in the United States, and I don't mean Louisiana. Besides, how is it “Right” to be the Party of Order? There is a Hell of a lot of ORDER in China, North Korea and the old USSR. In fact, it is pretty clear that the further to the Left, the more "Order" that there is -- so much so that many have complained . . . And were never heard from again!

    There is obviously not a consensus on the proper Left-Right scale to use: Although there is nearly a consensus among political science professors through use of a complicated contortionist scale that works for little else than putting Fascists on the Right (in a few more years they will have consensus among them as the Right-leaning PolySci professors are nearly gone from academia).

    The correct way of labeling Right and Left is to unhinge it from France or any location or time (it is not Conservative or Liberal, since those terms inherently depend on your location and the time period you are looking at).

    The only non-contortionist way to measure Left / Right politics or to put systems or policies on a Left / Right scale --- is to draw a graph for government control and place at the far Right 0% and at the far Left 100%: Then ask how much control by government is required for any particular system or policy. If the system or policy requires some government supervision or enforcement, then it moves the government to the left each time.

    Using this proper scale would also require that any religiously influenced government-required regulation, regardless of whether it compels to act or not to act, pushes you further to the left. Any theocracy would inherently be leftist, even if it is based on atheism (if it prohibited religious expression). Obviously, you can't be all the way to the right and be pro-life or pro-choice -- if the right to life or the right to choose is protected or enforced by government, then it moves you to the left because it requires policing: And the more policing that is required, the further to the left.

    I'm making no judgment on how much policing is right or correct: But clearly Fascism, as we commonly understand it, requires a lot of policing and a lot of government.

  • The rewriting of history

    To begin, Lenin sent a long, congratulatory telegram to Mussolini when he came to power in Italy. The reason being, that before WW11 fascism was clearly understood by all on the left to be an outgrowth of Marxism. That is was (and is) a left wing ideology. This was not even controversial.
    The reason why fascism came to be seen as any extreme right wing ideology is because of its clash with Soviet communism during WW11. After all, if communism is extreme left then it follows that fascism must be it's polar opposite. Right? Wrong. There are plenty of examples of wars between political bedfellows. For example, Shia Muslims and Sunni Muslims have been at war with each other for centuries. Yet they are both in the Muslim camp.
    The left wing origin of fascism was written out of the text books AFTER WW11 by the cultural Marxist-dominated academic elite. To this day this revision of history is as strong as ever.

    Who is it that is closing down free speech? The radical left. One of the hallmarks of fascism. Who is it that labels any opinion that differs from their own, hate speech. The radical left. Fascism. Who is it that bases their worldview on ideology? The radical left. Fascism. Who is it that uses violence to prevent even politically centrist opinions being expressed? The radical left. Fascist. Who is it that strives for equality of outcome - a view that has claimed many millions of lives worldwide from the Soviet pogroms and gulags to mao's mass starvation of his own population, and not equality of opportunity? The radical left. Fascism.
    What a catastrophic irony it is for world peace, that the very people who vehemently claim to be fighting fascism are in actual fact the product and manifestation OF fascism. They are fighting a figment of their own warped imagination. They have been lied to about fascism's left wing identity. And we are all going to pay for that lie , one way or another..

  • The hypocrisy of the left.

    The left loves to call anyone that does not agree with them "Fascist" yet they cry for free speech and try to shut down any speech that does not fall in line with their ideology. It actually borders on ridiculousness how uninformed and emotional they are which only shows a greater power is behind this movement. Wake up America!

  • Fascism is leftism

    Giovani Gentile, herbert Marcuse clearly leftist ideologues. NSDAP POPULARLY KNOWN AS NAZIS, WAS INTERPRETED AS National Socialist German Workers. Party. I dont know if there are any historical examples of socialists who also align with monarchy
    Or free market principles. The idea of a republic is precisely to temper the tyranny of the majority or minority through the cooler representational democracy.

  • Fascism is left-wing for the same reason as communism: state control in the economy.

    The myth the fascism is any sort or shape right-wing is just that - a myth. In order for a political ideology to be 'right-wing,' it must have limited government intervention, or none at all. If fascism puts the state above the individual, then clearly, it is a left-wing ideology.

  • Definitely left wing

    Be it Nazism or Fascism, both are based on Marxist doctrines. Any ideology that is fully behind big powerful controlling government, is left wing.

    If you look at the social conscience of Marx, note his famous anti-Jew rant, which was identically aligned to Hitler's. See below:-

    "Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew -- not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew. Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew. What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money. Very well then! Emancipation from huckstering and money, consequently from practical, real Jewry, would be the self-emancipation of our time.... We recognize in Jewry, therefore, a general present-time-oriented anti-social element, an element which through historical development -- to which in this harmful respect the Jews have zealously contributed -- has been brought to its present high level, at which it must necessarily dissolve itself. In the final analysis, the emancipation of the Jews is the emancipation of mankind from Jewry". - Karl Marx

  • Fascism's Is As Left As You Can Get

    The concept of Fascism is found within the concept of a massive government and idolizing said entity with a figure ruling up front. In this case, Hitler. If that doesn't sound familiar, think of people like Stalin, Karl Marx, and Mao, all people who are idolized by the leftist theories of Communism and were responsible for more deaths then Hitler could ever dream of. Nazis always declared themselves as National Socialists, or the concept of Socialism with a Nationalist approach. Far Right is the idea of little to no government and the idea of fighting and preserving the self and what the self and those who collaborate with the self own. It's the idea of being left alone to do what one wants within reasonability and lack to zero aggression unless provoked. Fascism doesn't embody anything to do with Far Right Anarchist Philosophies, in fact it embodies quite the opposite.

  • Yes, left wing

    Fascism is what socialism devolves into when it realizes its not solvent. It stands in direct opposition to the rights of a Constitutional Republic that grants and protects individual rights. Socialism/Fascism is held up by a overpowering central state to control and protect the group over the individual. All of the fascist leaders of the 20th century were very public and open Marxist. Thats how it was sold to the German people.

  • Fascism is Socialism, Socialism is Statism, and Statism is Left-Wing.

    Fascism is inherently collectivist and authoritarian, glorifying the "greater good" over individual liberty. All opposition is suppressed and all business is regimented and subordinated to the interests of the ruling class. This is inherently a left-wing ideology, despite the attempt to classify it as right-wing. The idea that the distinguishing factor between the left and the right resides in hierarchy versus egalitarianism is ridiculous, for individuals are divided into classes in all collectivist and statist systems, fascist or otherwise. In practice, all statist ideologies divide individuals into the ruling class and the ruled class, the difference being only the justification that the rulers give for their rule. In orthodox socialism or communism the rulers use egalitarianism and class conflict as justification for their rule, while in fascism or national socialism the ruling class justify their rule using nationalism and class collaboration. The difference is only in the justification and the degree of state control, not in actual substance. If a left-right spectrum is to be used, and if anti-statist ideologies such as classical liberalism are to be placed on the political right, then both orthodox socialism and fascism should be placed on the political left, for they both are opposed to individualism in support the state.

    For further reference, see The Vampire Economy: Doing Business Under Fascism by Gunter Reimann.

    Quotes About Fascism:

    "For this I have been and am a socialist. The accusation of inconsistency has no foundation. My conduct has always been straight in the sense of looking at the substance of things and not to the form. I adapted socialisticamente to reality. As the evolution of society belied many of the prophecies of Marx, the true socialism folded from possible to probable. The only feasible socialism socialisticamente is corporatism, confluence, balance and justice interests compared to the collective interest." - Benito Mussolini, March 1945

    "I don't mind telling you in confidence that I am keeping in fairly close touch with that admirable Italian gentleman." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

    "Lenin is the greatest man, second only to Hitler, and that the difference between Communism and the Hitler faith is very slight." - Joseph Goebbels, November 1925

    "And numerous people whose families belong to the peasantry and working classes are now filling prominent positions in this National Socialist State. Some of them actually hold the highest offices in the leadership of the nation, as Cabinet Ministers, Reichsstatthalter and Gauleiter. But National Socialism always bears in mind the interests of the people as a whole and not the interests of one class or another. The National Socialist Revolution has not aimed at turning a privileged class into a class which will have no rights in the future. Its aim has been to grant equal rights to those social strata that hitherto were denied such rights." - Adolf Hitler

  • Fascism is Big Government and Selective Protection of Fundamental Rights

    Merriam-Webster describes Fascism as "characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce".

    Dictatorial power is itself defined as "a government organization or group in which absolute power is so concentrated" - not necessarily an individual, but a limited group with unchecked power. This is an extremely apt description of the Fourth Estate, also known as the Mainstream Media who regularly propagate unfounded stories from 'anonymous sources'; though these are most often proven to be false, they persist long enough to sway public opinion. The stock market has exemplified this by taking huge plunges when headlines incite panics then recovering once those panics are proven unfounded.

    Congressional Hearings uncover rampant censorship and suppression of centrist and conservative social media figures on Facebook, Twitter, Quora, Google, and numerous other platforms. Anytime a non-leftist speaker is scheduled at a university, masked thugs bring weapons for the express purpose of assaulting and intimidating anyone brave enough to hear them speak. Berkeley once sparked the entire Free Speech movement, only to become the ashbed of its demise.

    As for "control of industry and commerce", one need look no farther than ObamaCare. All the "keep your doctor" rhetoric was proven to be lies, premiums skyrocketed out of control, and the extorted penalties for not being able to afford the outlandish (and ever-increasing penalties) stole food from the mouths of children. As Winston Churchill so wisely surmised, "The inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries" - which is always the end result of excessive government regulation of industry and commerce. This is the polar opposite of right-wing Free-Market Capitalism.

    Fascism is additionally characterized as anti-liberal; much as Hitler (who we can agree was fascist) rallied the impoverished German populace by blaming all their woes upon the 'privileged' Jews, Leftists rally gullible Americans by blaming all their woes upon Whites, Men, and other imagined 'privileged classes'. Fascists DO advocate widespread social welfare programs, but as a means to gain popular by forcing individuals to become dependent upon big government and eager to cede their personal freedoms in exchange.

    Violent protests following the 2016 elections, numerous death threats made towards Electors, and the rise of 'activist groups' like Black Lives Matter and ANTIFA legitimized political violence - another hallmark of Fascism. These groups are nothing more than the modern counterparts to the Democrats' Ku-Klux-Klan, Nazi Brownshirts, Italian Blackshirts, and countless other such vigilante militias which Fascists have used to brutalize and suppress opposition.

    Few would question that America's educational system is extremely left-leaning, though it too mimics Hitler's youth programs which indoctrinated school children into believing the most preposterous fictions in the name of "making the world better". American youth have been brainwashed into believing ecological doomsday predictions (which would have happened before they were even born were they true), that it's okay to kill people who are 'inconvenient' (such as abortion, pioneered by racist Margaret Sanger and disproportionately affecting black women), and numerous other half-truths, distortions, and outright lies.

  • Fascism is Government Control and Thought Policing

    Merriam-Webster describes Fascism as "characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce".

    Dictatorial power is itself defined as "a government organization or group in which absolute power is so concentrated" - not necessarily an individual, but a limited group with unchecked power. This is an extremely apt description of the Fourth Estate, also known as the Mainstream Media who regularly propagate unfounded stories from 'anonymous sources'; though these are most often proven to be false, they persist long enough to sway public opinion. The stock market has exemplified this by taking huge plunges when headlines incite panics then recovering once those panics are proven unfounded.

    Congressional Hearings uncover rampant censorship and suppression of centrist and conservative social media figures on Facebook, Twitter, Quora, Google, and numerous other platforms. Anytime a non-leftist speaker is scheduled at a university, masked thugs bring weapons for the express purpose of assaulting and intimidating anyone brave enough to hear them speak. Berkeley once sparked the entire Free Speech movement, only to become the ashbed of its demise.

    As for "control of industry and commerce", one need look no farther than ObamaCare. All the "keep your doctor" rhetoric was proven to be lies, premiums skyrocketed out of control, and the extorted penalties for not being able to afford the outlandish (and ever-increasing penalties) stole food from the mouths of children. As Winston Churchill so wisely surmised, "The inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries" - which is always the end result of excessive government regulation of industry and commerce. This is the polar opposite of right-wing Free-Market Capitalism.

    Fascism is additionally characterized as anti-liberal; much as Hitler (who we can agree was fascist) rallied the impoverished German populace by blaming all their woes upon the 'privileged' Jews, Leftists rally gullible Americans by blaming all their woes upon Whites, Men, and other imagined 'privileged classes'. Fascists DO advocate widespread social welfare programs, but as a means to gain popular by forcing individuals to become dependent upon big government and eager to cede their personal freedoms in exchange.

    Violent protests following the 2016 elections, numerous death threats made towards Electors, and the rise of 'activist groups' like Black Lives Matter and ANTIFA legitimized political violence - another hallmark of Fascism. These groups are nothing more than the modern counterparts to the Democrats' Ku-Klux-Klan, Nazi Brownshirts, Italian Blackshirts, and countless other such vigilante militias which Fascists have used to brutalize and suppress opposition.

    Few would question that America's educational system is extremely left-leaning, though it too mimics Hitler's youth programs which indoctrinated school children into believing the most preposterous fictions in the name of "making the world better". American youth have been brainwashed into believing ecological doomsday predictions (which would have happened before they were even born were they true), that it's okay to kill people who are 'inconvenient' (such as abortion, pioneered by racist Margaret Sanger and disproportionately affecting black women), and numerous other half-truths, distortions, and outright lies.

  • The Founders of Fascism All Started out as Socialists or Communists

    Check the history of Fascism and its founding fathers. Giovanni Gentile, the self proclaimed father of Fascism, drew inspiration from Hegel and Marx, hardly right wingers. In the final analysis what's the difference between Communism, Socialism, and Fascism? All three seek power in the state to the detriment of individual freedom. The American left moves relentlessly to vest power in the state while attempting to discredit the right with the Fascist label when its their own statist policies that mirror Fascism.

  • Fascism is the new norm for liberals

    The liberal agenda that is majorily fueled by left leaning universities has birthed the type of thinking that doesn’t see the need for limiting themselves to fascist statements, the “if you don’t agree with us then your sick, wrong, immoral, racist and a murderer” it’s disgusting and an obvious double-standard.

  • Big Government is left wing

    Fascism is a form of big government, which is under the left wing policies. Fascism takes away all rights of the people that live in a country in which its enacted, which is the same as communism, which is left wing. The Nazi party which is also known as the National Socialist German Workers Party, which socialism is left wing.

  • George Soros is on the left so is Fascism

    George Soros is the poster child for Fascism. He was a Nazi Collaborator and he is still on the left today. The left loves more and more government, they love no borders and they also love war and corruption. In fact Hillary Clinton was the most corrupt politician to every run for political office.

  • National socialism is not anti religion

    Hitler was a devout Christian, the difference is that Hitler was a GNOSTIC Christian, we read the Gospels ONLY! No works of Paul (Jew) is to be found in our Scriptures, leading to a completely different form of Christianity than Catholicism, Orthodoxy, or Protestantism. Look up Nag Hammad I Library and Aryanism.Net for more info.

  • Mostly left wing

    Fascism is most definitely leftwing. It showed the world, just like communism did, that collective obedience for an ideology is paramount. Disobedience was punished and talk against the ideology was whispered in private, for fear of reprisals. At no point does fascism, like communism and now social justice allow for different points of view.

  • Fascism is suppression of opposition by definition, which is what the left does

    Upon researching Fascism extensively, I found some interesting things and some shockingly ironic.First, Webster loosely defines it as a regime that exalts nation over the individual. Fascism is an ideology that claims that an certain group is better than another or other groups (this would be proven via eugenics or some other way of claiming a group/race is better). Fascism, though not inherently racist, tends to be racist by correlation. What I mean is that racists are truly fascists always, but fascists are not necessarily racist, but generally this is the case.

    Upon further research on the term fascist, I found that fascism, as portrayed by the Nazis, and we can read and see the evidence and proof of this (I will assume that Nazis were fascist poster children for the rest of my post here), is not just the claim that a certain group of people is better, but even further that because the other people are worse, they deserve oppression and seclusion. This is the reason fascists are often racists. Furthermore, Fascism claims it is ones moral obligation to ensure the superior peoples' continuation of existence, which leads to the actual application of Fascism, which is highly oppressive and controlling of the people. The application of Fascism looks like a conglomeration of people, or just one person who is considered to be superior, controlling other people, and typically the goal of the hierarchy or person in charge is to control as many people as possible, hence Nazi Germany's many invasions of countries. They thought they were spreading what was good throughout the world.

    Anyways, I've said all this to correct the notion that Fascist is inherently right-wing, because ironically it's inherently left-wing. Left-wingers value groups over the individual. This becomes obvious when we start talking about any single issue that we talk about today. They love to put labels on people, such as a person of color, a member of lbtqiasdf alphabet soup community, or any other "oppressed" group, and then they label their oppressor as some other group in society, the whites, the men, the christians. They are not willing to sit down and have a rational discussion, which parallels the Fascist value that their ideas are superior and mine and the right wings ideas are inferior and we deserve oppression instead of respect. They'd prefer to be destructive to society, set cars ablaze, riot at conservative Trump rallies, get "triggered" at every little comment that offends them and call the police about it. Further more, I've witnessed the scapegoating that the left is obsessed and consumed with doing, and this parallels the Nazi actions of blaming the Jews for their Socioeconomic problems, where the left blames other groups for all the problems of society.



    I rest my case

  • Hitler, Stalin, Mugabe, Kim Il-sung... Left wing horrors.

    I know people are going to pick out Hitler. "He only called himself a socialist to fool people". One of the weakest arguments I have ever heard given Germany had a politically intelligent population in the 1930's. If you want evidence for Nazi's also being left wing read the NSDAP manifesto, it is very short, 25 bullet points and will only take you a few minutes. The NSDAP manifesto is the Nazi published list of things the Nazi's stood for. You will see Nationalist bullet points, and Socialist bullet points. I think that is why they called themselves National Socialists!

    If you agree Hitler was also left wing, it pretty much wholly puts fascism on the left. Especially when you take into account that Eugenics was also a policy favoured by the left. (State control of breeding, and everything). Fascism is very much big strong governments, and left wing.

  • Far left wing

    The right is for individual rights and freedom, the left strips it all away for the benefit of the very few in the ruling class and the proletariat only have the right to work and then die. Fascism strips away individual rights and liberty, just as communism does. Fascism is anti-religion, just as communism. Fascism in practice means the death of anyone in the opposition, just as in communism. The list is endless

  • Fascism is a leftist ideology.

    When u say something is a left wing idea that means more government and less personal freedom. The same applies to fascism. Yes it may involve capitalism but that isn't a right wing thing.It just is a type of economic system. It isn't right wing at all it involves more government intervention and takes away individual liberties.

  • Was created by a socialist.

    It is socialism with a national identity. It was literally created by a socialist as well and both socialism and fascism share many characteristics and similarities apart from the national identity. Nazi is also an abbreviation of National Socialist. Many of the far-left are ignorant of this fact and associate people with right-wing opinions as nazis, when Fascism is a from of their beloved socialism.

  • Freedom of speech

    Identity politics gets established,next freedom of speech is denied..Words books movies and then artistic expression are all censored.Next race and beliefs are targeted for not believing or fitting in with that ideology.Next segregation of the outsiders through corporation media using vilification propaganda.Finally murder war and destruction .Left wing 101 in progress.

  • Fascism or theoretical fascism is actually a form of socialism which is a leftist ideology

    Founded by Giovanni Gentile, fascism was used as a means to attempt to serve the collective over the whole, which traditional conservatism(right wing) is against. Traditional conservatism functioned to serve the individual, while fascism wanted the community to be like a family with the state as the families leader.
    Many fascist ideologies can be described as far left. One example would be nationalized healthcare, which is similar to Obamacare, in that the state controls healthcare and who is eligible for it.

  • In all but its embrace of Nationalism, very much Left Wing

    It doesn't fit completely into the left/right spectrum, but Fascism is definitely closer to the left than it is to the right, at least by modern standards. To reach this conclusion, I'd point to the actual definitions of Left wing and Right wing politics. The Left feels more often than not that the problems of society are best solved if left in the hands of a central government, while the Right is much more skeptical of government involvement and prefers leaving individuals free to make their own decisions. The Right is also associated with religion, especially in America.

    On the other hand, Fascism and Nazism is built around the belief in subordination to a strong state; in which the individualism was discouraged in favor of sacrifice for the common good. In Italy, Mussolini was heavily influenced by the works of Giovanni Gentile, who in his "Dottrine Del Fascismo" (1932) states that "Everything is in the state, and nothing human or spiritual exists, much less has value, outside the state". Indeed, his economic policy included various state programs like the "Battle for Wheat" & the "Battle for Land". By 1935, Mussolini himself claimed that 3/4 of all Italian businesses were under state control. The next year he introduced price controls. These levels of economic planning are completely incompatible with the laissez faire system the right believes in.

    With regards to religion, Fascists actually tended to oppose Christianity, or at least the organised religions present in Germany and Italy. In Germany, the Nazis set up the German Evangelical Church to counter the power of the Protestant & Catholic churches. SS leader Heinrich Himmler is also known to have been fascinated with the Occult, and incorporated it into SS rituals and symbols. In overwhelmingly Catholic Italy, Mussolini only got along with the Church out of need rather than because of personal faith.

    And even though Fascism is associated with extreme Nationalism, this is by no means the trait of a right wing party. Nationalism has been accepted and embraced by people of all political opinions in the last 200 years, and even Communist groups such as Khmer Rouge were extreme Nationalists who idealized the Angkor Empire. I therefore see no logical reason to believe that Fascism is an Ideology on the Political Right

  • 5 minute video explains perfectly

    The new definition of fascism requires a dictator (like communism), forcible suppression of opposition and criticism (like communism and most socialistic policies) and total government regulation and control of businesses (see communism or socialism. How could Fascism possibly be on the opposite side of the political spectrum from socialism and communism?
    Https://www.Youtube.Com/watch?V=m6bSsaVL6gA

  • It is a left wing concept

    Fascism is nothing but big state (government) ruling the lives of the people. Small government is a right wing concept. When was the last time a tea party member said the president needs more power. That would mean fascism is far left because lefties (Bernie Sander) wish for the government to have more power. Claiming fascism is right wing proves you're ignorance to history and politics. Far right = Anarchy and Far Left = Fascism.

  • FASCISM is Merely Nationalistic Socialism

    "Fascism", is a economic term derived from socialism, just as communism is. Fascism is a brand of socialism which, like its cousin communism, tailors socialism's true definition "Ownership of the means of production" to its own nefarious means. Fascism means the Govt can determine who owns the means of production whereas communism means the Govt itself owns the means of production.

    NAZIs were fascists, therefore socialists. Hence why there were called the “National SOCIALISTS Workers Party of Germany”. Left wingers get this confused because they see the word "National" and immediately assume “Right Wing”. All the NAZIs were, were ultra nationalistic socialists:

    *NAZI party dictated who could own what; seized private property, assets at will for the benefit of the party;
    *Established ultra high minimum wages to give the allusion the economy was recovering
    *Declared war on all religions as they saw that as a threat to their power
    *Established "VW" (The People's Car) to compete with private industry
    *Engaged in "price controls" also to give the illusion that the German economy was "recovering".

  • Giovanni Gentile: Fascism's Father

    The best argument on this debate is to go to the founder of the feast. Now many know capitalism's founder (Adam Smith) and communism's founder (Carl Marx) but fascism is less known. His name is Giovanni Gentile. This man was inspired by Marx himself. His opinion was, more on the basis of race then class however. I encourage you to research this man further.

  • The question is about where it falls on the spectrum of individual freedom vs state control

    If you define the left side of the spectrum as more state control and the right side as pure freedom, then Fascism falls on the left side along with Socialism and Communism. Anarchy is at the very right.

    Left wingers and Right wingers sometimes fall on the "opposing" side of the spectrum depending on the issue.

    Stronger laws against drugs is a left side issue (more state control) but people on the Right tend to support those laws.

    As Americans, I wish we could all tend to side with freedom on issues instead of worrying about name calling. Like it or not, America was founded on the principles of individual liberty.

    Maybe Right wingers could give up on drug laws and gay marriage and Left wingers could give up on high taxes and big govt programs like Obamacare.

  • The question is about where it falls on the spectrum of individual freedom vs state control

    If you define the left side of the spectrum as more state control and the right side as pure freedom, then Fascism falls on the left side along with Socialism and Communism. Anarchy is at the very right.

    Left wingers and Right wingers sometimes fall on the "opposing" side of the spectrum depending on the issue.

    Stronger laws against drugs is a left side issue (more state control) but people on the Right tend to support those laws.

    As Americans, I wish we could all tend to side with freedom on issues instead of worrying about name calling. Like it or not, America was founded on the principles of individual liberty.

    Maybe Right wingers could give up on drug laws and gay marriage and Left wingers could give up on high taxes and big govt programs like Obamacare.

  • The Founder of Fascism...

    Giovanni Gentile, the not widely known founder of fascism. He was erased from the text books, and for good reason. The true fascist beliefs scared many historians, of whom many are on the left.

    Just like his philosophical mentor, Karl Marx, he sought to create a community that resembles the family. A community where “we’re all in this together.” This is a typical collectivist view seen in the left.

    Giovanni was a man committed to the left. He was a die hard socialist. In his view, as the founder of fascism, it is a form of socialism. Marx’s socialism mobilizes people of the class, fascism mobilizes people by national identity. Fascism is socialism with national identity. For example, Nazi is short for “national socialist.”

    For what is the administrative arm of society? The State. The submission to society is the submission to the state. In all matters. In a fascist society everything is political. Everything is to the state and for the state.

    Rebuttals:
    Militarism:
    1. Many socialist states have big militaries. Are those countries Right wing? Is China Right wing?
    2. American conservatives want to the Right to bear arms because it protects against a tyrannical government, like fascism. A fascist state will never arm their populace with guns because the people can fight the government.

  • Clearly Left Wing

    Fascism, as stated above, is built around the pretext that the individual is subservient to the state, and that the power the state exerts onto its citizens is effectively limitless. This runs completely contrary to the classical liberal approach, which has always emphasized individual liberties, limited government, and for a long time although admittedly not currently a small military geared almost entirely for defensive war and without consideration for forward presence or the projection of power. I should also reiterate that fascist economic policies are much closer to the absolute command economy of leninist states than they are to the laissez-faire capitalism favored by the right.

    Additionally, a basic counterargument is required to dispel the utterly asinine notion that fascism is right wing due to its heavy emphasis on extreme nationalism. Nationalism is by no means the domain of the right alone. In Russia, World War Two is referred to as "the Great Patriotic War." Some might draw the conclusion that this terminology is suggestive of nationalistic sentiments. Would anyone argue that the Soviet Union was not a leftist state? Would anyone here argue that the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea is not a leftist/leninist state along the grounds that the extremely nationalist policies of the Kim dynasty have propagated under the umbrella term for Juche(which roughly translates to "spirit of self reliance", which incidentally is not far removed from Hitler's idea of Lebenstraum)?
    In summation, fascism is a left wing ideology which only appears to be right wing due to the concerted leftist effort to brand their political opponents. Fascism cherishes the state above the individual, protectionism and self-reliance above free trade, and actively suppresses individual liberties. Fascists intimidate, imprison, and/or assault political dissidents and the religious, as both are seen as a threat to the state. The American political right is inherently opposed to every single one of these, and therefore for an individual to claim that fascism is a right wing governmental approach is hilariously uninformed at best and forthrightly dishonest at worst.

  • Rights vs rights

    Freedom of speech is a constitutional right. Having said that, groups found on college campus will use what ever means possible to shut down speakers whose ideology is at odds with theirs. This also includes bookstores hiding or refusing to put books on the shelf that are written by authors who have opposing points of view.

  • Fascism is left wing

    Completely opposed to right wing open market laissez-faire ideas. European and American intellectuals have been infatuated with post-modernist or anti-Enlightenment theories, opening up the opportunity for cult-like, irrational, anti-democratic positions that combine characteristics of the left with those of fascism, ie the violent support of socialism and the forcing of political correctness. It is anti-liberal, anti-American, anti-imperialism, anti-Semitic and pro-Islamofascist.

  • It's left due to government's role.

    Government involvement/control still the biggest factor of left/right position on the spectrum, and fascism clearly exhibits extreme government control (of many areas). However, a ideology as extreme as fascism is more likely hard to fit onto a basic left/right gradient, a notion which oversimplifies an already misunderstood idea in our age of the different ideologies of government.

  • Fascism leans left.

    Fascist's suppress opposition and criticism using authoritarian power.
    Fascist's are all about government control, by any means necessary.

    Left wing seeks larger government control as a means of social justice.

    Right wing seeks smaller government control to allow for greater individuality.

    Fascism has more common traits of the left. Mussolini created the party and his tenets are:
    Everything in the state
    Nothing outside the state
    Nothing against the state

    The left would have all control be similar to those statements above.
    The right would not agree with such control.

  • Government is Leftist

    The obvious dichotomy in this debate is individualism (right) vs. Collectivism (left). Collectivism is the foundation of government. Fascism cannot exist without a centralized government. Centralized government is the primary goal of statism. Statism is entirely left wing.

    The Founding Fathers recognized this intrinsic flaw of government almost unanimously. They understood that liberty and equality are diametrically opposed. Equality is non-existent in the natural ecology and can only be pursued through progressive governmental oppression. They attempted to limit the inevitable corruption of government by the separation of powers. Some of the more skeptical Founders predicted that in spite of the balancing components in the Constitution; it would not survive more than one generation.

    The American ideology is based on inherent individual freedom and the inclination to be anti-government. It is therefore right wing. Americans exist throughout the world. Many have never set foot in the United States and never will. Americans have always been a minority in world; the largest minority assembly of Americans resulted from the 17th Century migration to what is now the USA. Their innate superiority led the USA to become the greatest nation in the history of the planet.

    Americans are Lone Rangers. The "Liberal" leftists are a posse (an emotionally needy and foolish mob).

  • Controlled Market Controlled People

    Fascism is obviously left. Nazis are left. Abortion, Socialism, and universal healthcare were Hitler's beliefs. Also fascists want to take guns. Also when has a fascist been right wing. The right does want to control some of you, at least not everything. Donald Trump is not a fascist, Stalin was leftist

  • Definitely left wing

    All powerful, totalitarian regimes? Secret police? Dissidents, traitors and enemies of the state dealt with ruthlessly? Endless statist propoganda? All these answer yes for both the USSR (Communist/so far left) and Italy under Mussolini (fascist).

    Also, I dont believe Nazism is exactly the same as fascism. National socialism is racist at its core. Fascism (as started by Mussolini) was far more similar to good left wing ussr socialism.

  • As a high control low freedom ideology yes.

    Fascism by definition and example holds extreme power over both people and industry. Similarly many modern and historical left wing views believe in nationalization (industry control) and regulation on things like firearms (personal control). The right wing in modern terms advocates personal freedoms and laissez-faire approaches to the free market.

  • Is this real-life?

    Leftist tactics of media suppression, over regulation in business and government, and socialistic ideals all practically scream fascism. Through the methodology of "political correctness" alone, the criticism and opinions of liberal opposition is branded as homophobic, racist, or misogynistic without fail. In fact, the Antifa handbook ironically introduces itself by telling its members to suppress all criticism with those "politically correct" terms. Interesting that the left-wing "anti-fascists" instruct its members to use fascist ideologies to further it's ideals.

  • It is left wing

    Fascism is essentially communism in sorts, just has minor doctrinal differences. The leading philosopher of fascism was Giovanni Gentile. He worked in Italy under Mussolini. He was inspired by George Sorel. Sorels main point was making up myths to inspire violence or even revolution. He greatly inspired many fascists. Giovanni Gentile took these ideas and implemented them into what he called 'fascism'. He essentially said that Fascism at its root was the power of the centralized state. He said that the people and the state were on. He argued that the nation was like a big organism with the nucleus or the control center being the state. And the little extra cells being the people. His premise was that in fascism, the individual cells (the people) rights did not matter as long as the collective and the state prospered. So essentially individual rights don't matter as long as the collective is perceived to be sustainable and controlled. Another core principle that Giovanni Outlined was the idea that he borrowed from Sorel. The idea that he will make up myths or lie about situations in order to cause violence. Gentile argued that in fascism the fascists would make up myths based on nationalism. So for instance "Italy is being deprived by Capitalism" or something like that. Not only would the fascists say these lies, but they will also engage in violence in a attempt to push the regular people to revolt and overthrow the government and establish a new fascist regime. Now, how does this differ from communism and how is it similar to communism:


    DIFFERENCES:
    1.Communists do believe in instigated a revolution but not one based on nationalism. The communists believe in the Class war and making up things to instigate the working class, while fascists instigated a revolution on nationalism, not the class divide

    2. Communism is evil, it controls the economic aspect of you're life completely. But in Fascism, the government controls every aspect of you're life and you dont have any rights. Fascism does control the economic aspect of you're life and the means of production, but it also controls you're freedoms and lives. Now while I do believe communism always has to use fascist tactics on a government level in order to keep communism alive in that country. It doesn't inherently infringe on all aspects of you're life like fascism does.


    SIMILARITIES:
    1. Economic, In Fascism the means of production is one of the things the government controls completely. This is the same in Communism

    2. The People Who believe it, all the original fascists in history were originally Marxists who saw themselves as maturing into fascism, not changing to it. So essentially Fascists believe heavily in Marx ideology but they change it doctrinally. All original fascists claimed to be maturing into fascism and saw it as natural evolution of marxism. So essentially Marxism 2.0.
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  • National socialists and USSR ..Union of soviet socialist states

    They were allies until Hitler wanted "first place." But both were inspired by Marx, Darwin, Nietzsche and other God deniers. The left wing in N America and Europe fit right in with them. The right wing simply wants the freedom to choose to retain our "old fashioned" values such as our Judaeo-Christian heritage. To this the left says "No!"

  • For the people.

    Like communism, fascism isn't only based on conquering the world and expanding yada yada, but it's also based on a central belief. For communism, it's freedom for the workers and equality for all. For Fascism, it's showing the world that that specific nation is the best nation/people of the world. So, it appeals to the people's needs not the nation's needs which being right wing means.

  • Fascism has no correlation

    As you look at the political spectrum you will start to notice a pattern. The farther left you go you get more government control i.e. Liberalism to Socialism to Communism. Aswell as the farther right you go you see less government i.e. Conservatism to Libertarianism, that is until you get to fascism. Fascism has complete government control, or in other words the government has control over everything but does not control everything. Now to any educated person it seems as though their is no correllation of fascism to other right wing beliefs but there is some to the left... Actually a lot. Some try to argue social issues are the same, but that would imply all right wingers are rascist sexist bigot homophobes and left wingers are purfect angels. None of that is true, communist Russia for instance was INCREDIBLY racist and people consider it left. So in conclusion fascism if put on a linear political spectrum belongs on the left.

  • Fascism has no correlation

    As you look at the political spectrum you will start to notice a pattern. The farther left you go you get more government control i.e. Liberalism to Socialism to Communism. Aswell as the farther right you go you see less government i.e. Conservatism to Libertarianism, that is until you get to fascism. Fascism has complete government control, or in other words the government has control over everything but does not control everything. Now to any educated person it seems as though their is no correllation of fascism to other right wing beliefs but there is some to the left... Actually a lot. Some try to argue social issues are the same, but that would imply all right wingers are rascist sexist bigot homophobes and left wingers are purfect angels. None of that is true, communist Russia for instance was INCREDIBLY racist and people consider it left. So in conclusion fascism if put on a linear political spectrum belongs on the left.

  • Individualism vs. Collectivism and comparisons to other nations

    If one is to determine the qualities of the left wing vs. The right wing, one has to consider the thought of individualism vs. Collectivism. Individualism is more based off of the idea of the rights of the individual over the rights of the group and more intellectual diversity than populist production. It also encourages more self-reliance than government intervention. Collectivism, on the other hand, is more based off the rights of the group over the rights of the individual. Collectivism cares less for material possessions and calls for more sacrifice for the good of the group. It also puts more of an emphasis on populist ideas by taking from those more fortunate and giving to those who are poorer. It also calls for more government control of businesses and industry.

    Fascism is an authoritarian dictatorship that encourages fervid devotion to a form of government or political party over anything else. Fascist government relied heavily on mob rule and populism to encourage support for their programs and to suppress the minority such as Jews and Communists. Fascists also put less value on material possessions than even today's far left politicians. Fascists also call for more state control of the economy, a proponent of socialism. Seeing these points, it is evident that fascism is a collectivist society and left -wing.

    Now, fascism does have some values that are traditionally right-wing (i.E. Nationalism, militarism), but this does not define a form of government as right-wing. Both nationalism and militarism were employed by the Soviet Union and other communist nations, traditionally seen as being radically far left. Nationalism was a key element in the Soviet Union, fueled by their propaganda (sound familiar?). World War II wasn't called "The Great Patriotic War" by the Soviets for nothing. Militarism was also key to the Soviets through the Red Army, which was needed to control and expand their nation. At its height, millions of Soviet men and women were enlisted, the largest army at the time, only outdone later by China, another communist country, who still has the largest manned army in the world today. As a matter of fact, there are several traits traditionally seen as fascist that communism shares, such as territorial conquest (Mao's One China, Soviet demand for Eastern Poland and Karelia), cult personality (Stalin, Mao, the Kims), and subjugation of minorities (Cossacks, Poles, Chechens, Baltic peoples, and religious groups). So, if you want to consider fascism right-wing by these points, you would also need to consider communism as right-wing.

    On a side note, even if you're using the argument of radical reform vs. Traditionalism and status quo, then fascism is still left-wing, as fascism was seen in the eyes of outside nations as being extremely radical and in no ways similar to past monarchies. People say that fascism wanted to restore the monarchies of Europe and return to traditional rule. However, Hitler could care less about restoring the monarchy and Mussolini, despite Italy already being a constitutional monarchy, did not.

  • By definition, it is left

    "Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition."

    Lets break this down for those that need help. The right wing does not support race above the individual. As a matter of fact, the only side that keeps bringing up race is the left. Need proof of race being used in American politics? Take a look at Jesse Jackson, Black Lives Matter, and CAIR.

    Even more that that, when you look at the politics of fascism, it is clearly left-wing. Fascism opposes capitalism and supports a larger and more robust government. The left believes in higher taxes which gives them control over people and industry; fascism is predicated on the same idea. Most notably, and ironic if you ask me, ANTIFA attempts to use force to suppress their opposition. Funny how ANTIFA is inherently fascist in their ideas.

  • Same ancestry and general philosophy that the collective trumps individuals and identity politics

    Oswald Spengler, the German political philosopher, called for a blend of socialism and nationalism for Germany, to be incorporated into corporatism (the original name for Fascism). Sombart, a Marxist economics professor, also was an important thinker who (with or without his consent) thought national socialism was the way to go. Bolsheviks and Nazis both accuse the other of being heretics and selling out to capitalism. They both stress the collective instead of the individual. The old concept of left and right side of the legislative chamber being somewhat outdated, Naziism and Marxism are more alike than different. Their differences are more a manner of methodology than the ends each of them seek.

  • Fascism is left wing.

    The idea that fascism is right wing is an idea introduced by Marxists who after the atrocities of Nazi Germany wanted to distance themselves from them for the fear of bad publicity. A fundamental characteristic of left wind ideology is the belief that the state should have more control over the people. Both Fascism and Communism share this fundamental belief. Both Communism and Fascism are also authoritarian.

  • A strong and powerful central government controlling all aspects of life? Clearly more in line with Marxism/socialism.

    The fact that the educational system and press in the US and abroad leans heavily to the left is the only reason why we keep hearing that Fascism is extreme right. And it is understandable; who wants to admit that their political cousins were Nazism and Fascism?

    Nazism means Mational SOCIALIST Party. Everything controlled from the top. It doesn't matter that Nazism had a extremely warped version of conservative social policies in philosophy that most conservatives in the US find abhorrent. It is how they chose to organize and run their government that designates them as Socialist.

  • Fascism is Left Wing

    HISTORICAL FACTS: The threat of violence from the left is the tactic used by Mussolini's Black Shirts when they marched on Rome in 1922. Mussolini was the father of Fascism and a great admirer of Karl Marx. Look it up.

    In Germany, Hitler and his Brown Shirts also were on the left -- The National Socialist Workers Party. In the 1930's, the conservative right was represented by Prussia and its generals who were opposed to Hitler and his wars. It was the right which sought to assassinate Hitler. Look it up.

    And you know about Mao in China, Pot Pol in Cambodia, Stalin in Russia, Castro in Cuba -- all arose from the left, all were dictators and all were mass murderers.

    And of Antifa on the left in the US. You be the judge!

  • Mussolini's Fascism was on the Left

    HISTORICAL FACTS: The threat of violence from the left is the tactic used by Mussolini's Black Shirts when they marched on Rome in 1922. Mussolini was the father of Fascism and a great admirer of Karl Marx. Look it up.

    In Germany, Hitler and his Brown Shirts also were on the left -- The National Socialist Workers Party. In the 1930's, the conservative right was represented by Prussia and its generals who were opposed to Hitler and his wars. It was the right which sought to assassinate Hitler. Look it up.

    And you know about Mao in China, Pot Pol in Cambodia, Stalin in Russia, Castro in Cuba -- all arose from the left, all were dictators and all were mass murderers.

    And of Antifa on the left in the US. You be the judge!

  • Godless Liberal Fascism

    Every evil begins with a lie. The Left lies incessantly out of necessity because the truth is not on its side. Thus Hitler realized the importance of lies in his propaganda and repeated them relentlessly, just as CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post, PBS, and all the rest of the extreme left-wing fake news does today. At the far left of the political spectrum is fascism, then communism, socialism, liberalism, middle of the road, conservatism, and finally libertarianism at the far right. America's Founding Fathers were libertarians, who established limited government and emphasized freedom, not the fascism promoted so destructively, so violently, so hatefully by today's Left.

  • Those who try to silence the opposition, often with violence.

    It seems that the far left have become the violent oppressors of free speech. They protest any opinion or stance that differs from their own, rather than listen to other opinions, and see if there is any value or logic to the argument. Calling names is done on both the left and right, and there are jerks on both sides, but the violence that has been exhibited by the left in this past year has been eye opening. I feel like they have become the narrow minded group, and have lost what it means to be unique individuals, by expecting others to think exactly as they do. They cannot be considered liberal, because to be liberal is to be open to other opinions and ways of life. Only certain groups are saved from their intolerance, for whatever reason. I don't really understand the support of conservative Muslims, yet seeming hate for other conservative groups. I don't understand hate for anyone, but that particular stance throws me for a loop. Islam is not for homosexuality or feminist rights, so it is an odd for the left to champion their cause. The left is a side that preaches tolerance and diversity, yet sets out to systematically oppress and remove those who think differently than they do. In short, they don't practice what they preach. Obviously I am not meaning to use a wide brush and say all left leaning people are this way, but those in the limelight are not doing anything for their image.

  • Nationalism is Only a Part

    The Whole debate hinges on the Left can't be Nationalist, and the Left can't be Militarist. Both are Wrong

    Fascism embraces Views on the Extreme Opposite of the Right and firmly on the leftest Camp. Socialism, Anti-Laissez Faire economy, Anti-traditionalism (Fascist Loathed the Church, and previous Nobility, and preached less Chaste behaviors), Big Government, National Security. I could go on. The fact remains that these were and are Left or Far Left beliefs.

    Now Lets get to my very first statement. The Left Invented Nationalism. Early National Movements like the American Revolution and the French Revolution were Left wring in Nature, the French Revolution more so. The American Revolution was far more Right then it was left, and far less about Nationalism then the French Rev., but it did lay the Foundation. The French Revolution is by an Large considered a Left wing National Revolt, and embracing of ones Culture and nation. Another more Modern Example is the Scottish Nationalist Party, which is a Far Left Nationalist party and the closest thing you'll find to a modern Fascist Party.

    Now on to Militarism on the Left, I could use the French Rev Republic but I wont. Instead I'll use the Furthest example of Leftism the Soviet Union and any Communist Country in existence. They have all been Militaristic, they all made the Military a point of Pride.

  • The wordplay and political Correctness has to stop

    The war on free speech unless it supports the left's narrative needs to stop. Free speech should be limitless and without repercussion, what you say and think should not harm you in any way shape or form and I'm tired of leftist smearing right wing voters, saying we are racist homophobic etc. when really the left wants to keep the black community poor and voting for them.

  • Why Does the Left think Fascism is Right-wing? Because of a wrong definition

    Many leftists will make the claim that the Right-wing is fascist, and to justify it they use the google definition that states:

    an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

    I’m sorry but your wrong. The definition that you're going by is the definition you get from google by doing 5 seconds of research, a definition goggle changed about 3 years ago, okay? By those terms fascism in 2017 isn’t the same as fascism in 1942. NEVER use the google definition, because goggle is constantly changing their definitions. Now if you do a little more work by scrolling down the web-search you’ll find a site called Merriam-Webster, which is an AMAZING site based on a book that has been around since 1828, and it’ll tell you the definition of ANY word you want to know. Know this is the definition they gave:

    often capitalized : 1. A political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition 2. A tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
    Wow, how interesting. Okay so first I wanna point out that THIS is the definition that has been in place for almost 200 years. Okay so you notice that by THIS definition almost ANYONE can become fascist, not just the Right-wing. So I ALSO want to point out something very interesting and that is the word: autocratic government. So by definition a Fascist will demand an autocratic government. So what does autocratic mean? Well it means BY definition:
    the authority or rule of an autocrat 2. Government in which one person possesses unlimited power 3. A community or state governed by autocracy
    Hmm. Okay so by definition a fascist will demand more governmental power and government regulation. So, WHICH side is fascist again? Because the only side I ever hear about more governmental power and we NEED new regulations it's ALWAYS the far left. Please explain THAT to me.

  • Fascism has always been a left ideology

    The left propaganda that fascism is a right wing ideology is easily disproven.

    First, Fascism is described as a populist movement, but so was democracy, communism, and socialism, and various offshoots. Calling it "populist" means nothing.

    Second, They make their case by falsely relating nationalism to fascism. Nationalism is part of every country, or they would cease to be a country. Most describing fascism as a nationalist movement are in complete error, it is a statist movement, where the state and it ideology (regardless of the ideology) is held more important then the individual citizen.

    Third, they claim it must have traditional values. It has nothing to do with "traditional values" all it requires is a single ideology to rally the people behind. Mussolini chose Catholicism because it was the most prevalent in Italy. Mussolini himself was an atheist and socialist and was Hitler. Hitler initially chose Christianity as the fascist ideology, .But later he created his own version of religion. Communism abolished all religion and forced their own state ideology on the people. Islam and sharia law is the perfect example of fascism in today's world with the exception of their communist like desire to take over the world, but they do carry the supremacist ideas of Nazis by substituting Muslim for Aryan.

    Fourth, Militarism is irrelevant in describing fascism as many nations has chosen militarism as preemptive defense or offense for the purposes of defense. It is better describe as a police state, where the ideology of the state is enforced through propaganda, violence and public shaming. Often fanatics of the state ideology see it as their mission to protect the state ideology by public calling out turning in violators or those who speak in opposition. It truly is a "politically correct" system.

    Fifth, they claim communism is nothing like fascism and that the fascists hated communism. The differences between communism and fascism are these, communism destroyed all personal property rights, fascism allowed it but with heavy government control, the communist sought an equal wealth among the people, fascism sought exceptionalism for benefit of the state and allowed different wealth among individual people as an incentive. They both require a huge central government, compliance with state ideology, state control of health care, education and the media. The main reason fascist came to hate communism was the communist's desire to spread their ideology and control through out the world. Ironically Hitler didn't want to take over the world, he want the German Reich restored to its pre-wwwI borders.

    FDR and many other democrats praised fascism, because they believed it was so close to the democrat party ideal. With WWWII they quickly disavowed it, but in name only and they tied the name to Nazism so they thought they couldn't be called fascist. But fascism wasn't a racist ideology, Nazism was and the Nazis just used fascism as a form of government. Let's not forget ever, that FDR sent over 120,000 of Japanese American citizens to concentration camps.

  • Fascism is Left Wing

    The fact is, Fascism is about a state controlling the people and their decisions. Basically people don't get to have a say in things, and if they do, it's for things that are not that important in society and in their lives. Nazi Germany, socialist dictatorship, is described correctly as being fascist. Communist Russia and China are called fascist. All these things have in common are they're left wing, government controlling dictatorships. Right wing has always been more or less, small government and lets people have more say in things. To say that Fascism is right wing is laughable. People clearly don't know the real definition of the word, because if they did, they wouldn't call it right wing.

  • It is when you thin about it.

    In fascism, the government determines income, and to think of fascism as right wing comes from the false idea that right wing and left wing ideologies fall on a spectrum of equality and hierarchy People who describe it as right wing often sight that it is nationalistic, however there pointing to a different definition of nationalism that is supported by the right, the two definitions being nationalistic in foreign policy and being nationalistic in domestic policy, fascism being nationalistic in domestic policy, something the right is against.

  • Dictionaries and Mussolini

    Dictionaries are where we get our definitions from, and at least most if not all define fascism as extreme right.

    Mussolini, the inventor of the word fascism and it's ideology stated the following:
    . "It is to be expected that this century may be that of authority, a century of the "Right," a Fascist century."

    Mussolini, Doctrine of Fascism (1932)

    "un secolo di «destra», un secolo fascista"
    Destra = right
    Note the use of the word 'right'!

    Outside the State there can be neither individuals nor groups (political parties, associations, syndicates, classes). Therefore Fascism is opposed to Socialism,"

    "Né individui fuori dello Stato, né gruppi (partiti politici, associazioni, sindacati, classi). Perciò il fascismo è contro il socialismo”

    Mussolini, Doctrine of Fascism (1932)

    In the face of liberal doctrines, fascism is an attitude of absolute opposition

    Di fronte alle dottrine liberali, il fascismo è in atteggiamento di assoluta opposizione

    Mussolini, Doctrine of Fascism (1932)

    Posted by: jjwd
  • More left wing

    Fascism gets its roots from ideas of both sides, it also goes strictly against ideas on both sides. Given this, I feel it is a left wing ideal in right wing clothing. On the surface, it would appear right wing (posing as conservative, allowing people to run businesses). In reality though it would be left wing (controlling all assets of business through policy, expanding government through socialist programs). This seems the way the democratic party in the U.S. is heading, it's a shame that they don't see it.

  • Of course Fascism is a left wing ideology.

    The political spectrum is based on a theoretical line that represents total government control on the extreme left and zero government on the extreme right. Fascism and Socialism are cousins progressing their ways left toward Communism or a Monarchy. The US Constitution is a right of center document with the Articles Of Confederation being even further right. The description of politics is nothing more than identifying the size/power of a government. Moving left= more government. Moving right= less government.

  • Left of center.

    Fascism closely resembles socialism with the state / government controlling most aspects of society and the economy. In this respect fascism is certainly on the left side of the political spectrum. Adolf Hitler was the leader of the Nazi Party - a socialist party with government controlled left leaning restrictions and agenda. Most definitely left.

  • Fascism is definitely left-wing.

    Fascism is national communism, whereas Marxism is international communism.
    The idea that collectivism government can only lead to one of these two options is overly simplistic and completely ignorant of the United States Constitution. The idea that a collectivist government based upon an individuals vote, with a hefty sense of self reliance (read minimal government), completely transform the paradigm.
    This enables just enough government to provide for the common defense and to protect individual liberty.
    Literally to go right of this form of government leads to the complete lack of any central command, or anarchy. Thus the scale is now totalitarianism (left) to anarchy (right).

  • Fascism is definitely Leftism

    To answer Right Wing Populism on a few points, out of order:

    "Militarism: People should be armed to defend the nation. The military should be strong to defend the national interests. And no, Hitler didn't take all the guns away, most of the people were too busy being part of the war effort, either fighting in it, serving in volkstrum, or manufacturing munitions.To give up weapons that would be used against enemies of the state. And those contracts go to private companies using government money. The left prefers to avoid military expansion and prefers to perform government functions in house."

    Private ownership of firearms was...Verboten...Unless you were ruling class. Which is (yes, I'm aware that this is a stretch, but if you don't know the laws and how they're carried out, please educate yourself) kind of how it works in New York and California.

    "Nationalism: More than "national pride", nationalism emphasizes the exceptionalism of the nation. The people and culture are special and should not be corrupted by outside cultures. This can cross with traditional values. Hitler looked to traditional German culture, Franco to ultra conservative Catholicism, Mussolini to Roman virtues. The goal was to create a heterogeneous culture base off of traditional national values. The belief is one language, one religion, one culture. Intellectuals, foreigners, etc. are outsiders and troublemakers. This does not fit with the international, inclusive, pro cultural mixing ideals of the left. It does, however, fit with any conservative movement in any nation, only on steroids."

    No, bro, this is different. America is exceptional because of ideals and our system of governance. Germans believed they were exceptional because they were GERMAN.

    And to the individual beneath the aforementioned one, no. Fascism is not "survival of the fittest." It's "the state decides that which should be allowed, and that which shouldn't be." Capitalism is survival of the fittest.

  • Yes, communism equals fascism

    There is only one difference between the two edges, while right-wing fascism turns against other races (either nations, ethnics, gender, religion or else) and opress them by any means , left-wing fascism turns against the classes (whatever they consider to be class differences) of their own people/ nation, and opress them by any means.
    Lefts consider themselves the best "race" and hate everything is not left. Whoever is not with them, is automatically named "fasist", even if is the most fair fighter for democracy. So... Where is the difference? Yes, left-wing edge meets right-wing edge by same phenomena called simply... Racism, I mean, hating other people. They hate rich people, they hate anyone made it better through life, hate everyone who is more educated and found his way in the society by its own, hate anything is not down-equal with them. Lefties have killed and are still killing their own brother and sister just for being different... Well, if that is not fascism, then what is it?

  • Control of production

    Fascism is a form of government that strongly regulates the means of production without owning it. Similar to to socialism but the government does not fully take possession of enterprise. Most of the descriptions of fascist governments describe characteristics that evolved from that form of government in those countries. It is a form of collectivism or statistism which places it in the left-wing of the political spectrum. The characteristics that evolve from it remain to be seen.

  • Fascism was born on the Left, is derived from Leftist ideology and is predicated on Leftist assumptions.

    The idea that Fascism is "Right-wing" derives from the Marxist worldview, where bourgeoisie is transformed from part of the Left during the French revolution into a new Right during the 19th century. Bolsheviks postulated that Fascism was the last gasp of the so-called "capitalist" bourgeoisie before it fell to the proletariat vanguard. The problem with this worldview is that it is wrong on a number of levels; for example, that Marxists are not capitalists (they are - Marxism does not do away with capitalism, it just changes who the capitalists are), that capitalists are autocratic exploiters of the working classes (actually Marxists have ironically become the most prominent exploiters of workers, so much so that corporations have been setting up shop in the Marxist regimes of Asia to get access to them), and that Marxists in general champion the working classes (from the history of the 20th century, they clearly do not).

    The Left actually has demonstrated itself to be an umbrella organization for different forms of kleptocratic government, most often associated with some interpretation of socialism. Most Leftist movements with an ideology that promotes world conquest eventually run at cross purposes with each other (note the conflicts between Bolshevism and Maoism in the latter 20th century). So also, aggressive and ruthless Leftist factions will attack and destroy weaker and more vulnerable Leftist movements if the opportunity presents itself (see how the Bolsheviks treated Social Revolutionaries and Anarchists, the factional infighting among Spanish Republican groups during the Spanish Civil War, or how FRETILIN treated non-socialist resistance groups in East Timor). The National Socialists and Bolsheviks began WW II as allies, mainly for territorial advantage at the violent expense of their shared neighbors.

    In short, it's rather obvious that Fascism was just another form of Leftist authoritarianism, especially when their practical function in day-to-day practice is taken into account. Both Nazi Germany and Bolshevik Russia were militaristic oligarchies and had a massive secret police, a concentration camp system, a lack of regard for personal rights and an all-powerful aristocratic state apparatus. When the Maoists came to power, they adopted a similar governing strategy. These governmental functions have all become ubiquitous to Leftist regimes which have come to power.

  • We are not Europe

    To call Fascism "right-wing" is based on a European political model where the choice was, which collectivist group to be controlled by. Europe has experienced libertarian type freedom like the US once knew. In American politics, Libertarianism is the far right (small government and small taxes, little regulation and government intrusion, more individual freedom). All collectivist, authoritarian and "social engineering" political models (socialism, progressivism, communism, fascism) are on the far left.

  • Collectivism and state control

    Collectivism and state control go against the core of the right.
    For the right, individualism, and capitalism without state control are central.
    The successful lie that National Socialism and Fascism is right wing was created by the victorious left after WW2. The left invented this lie to distance itself from National Socialism and Fascism and to smear the right.

  • Collectivism, State Control,

    Common for all left wing movements are collectivism and total state control. This goes against the core of the right, which is individualism and private capitalism without state control.
    Fascism and national-socialism were, successfully, placed on the right by the victorious left wing after WW2 to distance themselves from them and to smear the right.

  • Fascism i belive can be left or right

    Fascism can be left or right most people think its to the right, not so look on Wikipedia --Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1] which belongs to the left, but the word authoritarian could belong to the right so you could use fascism in both cases and be right.

  • Fascism is socialist based

    Socialist idea are more morally attract to the general public. It ignores the reason of how the perceived injustice is created. Rather than fixing the root cause, to adapt to the results, people would just give in their freedom to do things differently, and allow the government or dictatorship to take control of every aspects of life. There is no significant differences between fascism and communism, except eventually control by a dictatorship and the other by a single party.

  • Of course it is

    There has never been a right wing fascist government. People can point out the nationalism that is required for faclscism but just becauase nationalism is a factor does not nake it right wing. Hitler, left wing, Benito Mussolini, left wing. What fascism is, is a powerful government ran by a totalitarian dictator, it is a society where the government has gained full power and peoples rights are taken away because the dictatorship "knows best." These are all left wing ideologies. Large government, loss of rights, nothing aside from nationalism is supposedly right wing, and even nationalism shouls noy be confined only to right wing, a liberal can be nationalistic.

  • Fascism is centralized and oppressive government.

    The word fascism has become watered down more and more through out the ages. Fascism has a connection with nationalism which also is connected with the right wing, however, that is the only correlation that can be made between the right wing and fascism. In order for fascism to be present in a society, the government must be centralized, and that is exactly what the right wing opposes. The progression of ideologies in the political spectrum doesn't make sense if fascism is on the right because all the way to the left is communism, which has a big government, then moving more to the right you find less and less government. How then, can you go from huge government to less government back to huge government, especially when you take into consideration the fact that the right wing and left wing are polar opposites.

  • Fascism is definite a creature of the left.

    A useful measure of left vs right is the degree of government control of the economic and social activities of the nation, vs the amount of personal and economic freedom. The US Founders devised a well balanced system of a federation of states, with a limited federal government with proscribed powers, checks and balances within government, a free enterprise economic engine, a right of center position by today's measure. To the right of this position is increasingly less central government, tending towards regionalism and even anarchy. To the left is increasing control over everything and everyone, tending towards extreme totalitarianism, eg North Korea. Fascism, as it manifested in the 20th century was akin to Nazism, or National Socialism. The 'pressure points' of control were different in each of them, but the net result was a high degree of control over both the economic and social aspects of daily life.

  • Fascism of Germany WWII Period

    Just because Hitler opposed communism doesn't mean facism is right-wing. Left-wing policies is basically government took care of it's people, while the right-wing is people should take care of themselves.

    Berlin at the time was Europe's capital of sexual perversion. And one of Hitler's policy was to ban that, porn magazines and the likes. Interfering like that is considered left-wing. While not interfering, the freedom to read porn, is right-wing.

    That was an example. But for every practical uses. Every government policies, there was lefty and there was righty. So to say facism as it is in the left or right spectrum? You could see it's government. Dictatorship, government says what's right or wrong to it's people and enforce them.

    Facism is left-wing. Either far or moderate. It is in left.

  • It was the National Socialist Workers Party.

    It used Socialism infused with it own special brand of national values. . The left wants to disown them just like they would like to be able to disown all of the other murderous socialist and communist regimes. The goal of the left is to create a state that has total control over its people. A state in which, in the name of the people, a few select people have the power and individual rights are limited or eliminated. In the process of doing this they hoodwink the general population into believing that everything they are doing is for their benefit. The NAZI's, like the communists in several other countries,did a very good job of this. The left is doing a very good job of painting the NAZI's as being right-wingers. Consider this. How many movies have you see that address left-wing conspiracies and left wing atrocities versus those that portray the so called "right-wing" fascist or neo fascist as being the bad guys. The left is doing a good job of pushing their agenda.

  • Fascism, Socialism and Communism are all variants of leftist ideologies.

    Italian fascism and German Communism were birds of a feather in WW2. Fascism/National-Socialism is hopelessly endorsed by Socialist failed states all over the world today! Even as the EU melts down before our very eyes, clueless Americans are still seduced by Socialist politics - quoting Sweden's Social Democrats as the example to follow.(!?!) This as Sweden surges to the top of 'rape victims of Islamic immigration' (With Germany close behind.) and their media refuses to discuss the issue!! Progressive Globalism is nothing more than Old-School Fascism on steroids. Time to get a clue.

  • Government Control over Personal Freedom

    The more left-leaning the country becomes the more it supports a Fascism, Communism or Socialism. Likewise it's apparent that if the term of no Government we have Anarchy with no separation of powers.

    Like in the battle for more or limited government a republic is choosing to increase dependence one way or the other. The affects left leaning are very detrimental to a truly free society.

    If we talked left:
    Liberal [ More Government ]
    Liberalism
    Socialism
    Communism
    Oligarchy
    Progressive
    Fascism
    Tyranny
    State Run

    If we talked Right:
    Conservative [ Less Government ]
    Republicanism
    Libertarian
    Capitalism
    Plutocracy
    Neo-Con
    Theocracy
    Corporatism
    Corporation
    Church

    80% of us as a country live in the two-party Liberalism vs Republicanism and sometimes, especially now dip into Socialism vs Libertarian views.

  • Benito Mussolini based country off communist manifesto

    There is a quote that for a book, the heavily left-wing communist manifesto, to be successful "only two people must read it. People like Lenin and Mussolini." Also Pol Pot, Lenin, Stalin, Che Guevara, Mao, Hitler, both Castros, and many other Fascists were communists. As for Franco he was also left-wing in the sense that he had high taxes of 80%, had strict gun control, and other things.
    Technically Fascism is neither because it simply means authoritarian on the political compass, but being left-wing, the government has higher taxes, is very helpful when you want to control every aspect of people's lives, if it was right wing, the fascist governments wouldn't control people as easily.
    The reason it's called Right-wing is because it Hitler was to the right of the Soviets, and they saw them as not real socialists like the american communist and socialist parties. In the rest of the world, fascism was seen as pure left-wing

  • Leftism seeks state control

    The further right a party goes on the spectrum, the more they seek increased freedom and liberty. The further left, on the other hand, the more they seek increased intrusion by government and collectivist, class-based discrimination in all facets of society. Given that fascism involves mass government control over all society at large and reduced personal liberties, it is, in fact a left-wing ideology.

  • Government Control is Left Wing

    In fascism, the government is trying to control everything. Big government is a liberal viewpoint. Fascism is a left-wing policy. Hitler was a fascist, and was a socialist. The extreme right is not fascism, but rather total anarchy with absolutely no government control whatsoever. The thought that fascism is right wing simply because there is one person who represents the entire government is an absolutely absurd idea.

  • Compare right wing core values to fascism

    1. Small limited government - (fascism relies on big government totalitarian control). Not compatible 2. Focused on individual rights - (fascism is for the collective best as deemed by the ruler). Not compatible 3. Gun rights - (Nazis confiscated guns) Not compatible 4. Free markets - (fascism has government control over private companies) Not compatible

  • Fascism unites left wing and right wing

    Benito Mussolini and Hitler both in their own countries had to balance out their party's platform. If it was to much right wing the left wing would rebel and the same if it was to far left wing.

    So fascism in Italy and Germany both had to do this.

    In Germany Mein Kampf was by law ordered to be in every religious place of worship. (Right wing is for freedom of religion)

    Germany also had abortion legal and millions of babies were aborted.

    The right to bear arms was just for hunting. If you were a threat to the Nazi party they would take your guns away. The reason they would use is that you're trying to rebel against the government.

    But the Nazi party was the sole political party and contained a left wing and a right wing. But most German's were left wing. Thus the country was left leaning instead of right leaning.
    Remember Hitler's goal was to unite Germans. Not divide them.

  • Fascism is egalitarian

    Fascism places the many before the one, in the same manner as socialism and communism. The individuals rights are lost in all three systems. Whereas for right-side elitism, the individual holds primacy. Limiting the power of the group over the individual is the right. Extolling the virtues of the group is left.

  • If you take a look back at the time when Hitler had control of Nazi Germany

    , and you look at the style of government, you can clearly see that it was a left-wing type of government. Growing up, I was taught that in World War II there were two ends of the political spectrum, and on the extreme left you had the Soviet Union, and on the Extreme Right you had the Nazis. I never understood why the Nazis were placed on the right side of the political spectrum because they had a totalitarian government. People on the left side of the political spectrum tend to favor more government control. The farther left that you go on the political spectrum, you have the radicals, who favor total government control. Now, communism and Fascism are two different styles of government, but yet, they both favor total government control. There are some fundamental differences, like the Nazis did not like anyone who they viewed as lesser to them. However, besides that, both countries had total control over their people. Not to mention, both Hitler and Stalin Killed many of their own people. What really confuses me, is the fact that the Nazi party was socialist. Just something to think about, because this whole topic always confused me.

  • It's socialist along with no real social conservatism

    If somebody says what traditions to fascists actually believe in. Fascist traditions of that nation. They do not like religious traditions or any tradition that puts itself over government. They are anti guns and surprisingly supporters of animals rights.
    Hitler and mussolini's main slogans we're hope and change. Where's the tradition in that. There was also no capitalism involved because they believed in socialism. They were very much like the communists except they believed a national identity and in a different form of socialism. That socialism had the redistribution of wealth but instead of it going to the government, it went to large corporations that lived off of the government. Where's the free market? Even then a lot of the high taxes still went to the government.

  • Yes, look at Hitler

    Hitler, the idiot that supported Genocide and was also exactly that, an Idiot, he was a horrible military leader, but he lead one thing well (up to your opinion): The Nazi party, or the national socialist party. Read that again, National Socialist. Now, why would a Hrd Right wing Fascist be leading the National Socialist Party. Answer, Fascism isnt Right-Wing.

    It doesnt make sense anyway either, the right supporting "Big-Government"

  • Politically Left Wing

    OK, are we talking a political spectrum, then definitely left wing. If we are talking an economic spectrum, then it'd be capitalistic, but not free market.

    Right wing ideologues by today's standards want a smaller, and more limited government with more power being left to the individual to make choices.

    Left wing ideologues by today's standards want the government to serve the "greater good" and in order to do so, give government more power and control over individual's choices.

    Economically, fascism is a capitalistic veneer to a government run business. When the US bailed out GM and then told them what type of vehicles or pay packages or choose to replace a CEO, that is a form of fascism. Sure, they still made cars, but the type / size and prices of them were not determined thru the free market, it was determined by what the government decided.

  • Being less communist than the USSR doesn't make you Milton Freidman's free market libertopia. Grow up.

    In my view, any authoritarian model is leftist. It's quite simple to me: more government control is leftist. To what extent is the question. Simple people are swayed by the cherry-pickers on the left who use the Nazi vs Stalin approach. Both of which fundamentally wanted the same thing: complete government control. There is nothing conservative about that.

  • Fascism is a totalitarian state

    Fascism is a totalitarian state where dissenting views are not allowed and liberty is suppressed. It is more consistent with current American left wing ideology of large government control and influence over speech and thought. In a fascist state, the people are subjects of the government. Not exactly what President Lincoln had in mind, right? North Korea would be an example of fascism today. The separation of powers in our Constitution are meant to prevent this. This is why so many are concerned with the growing use of executive orders by the President.

  • All "BigG'ment" is left-wing.

    If there's no liberty, property rights, gun rights, free speech, then it's not right-wing. People taking responsibility for their own selves and property is right-wing. The g'ment taking responsibility for people and appeasing bums who think they're entitled to what others have is a left wing nanny state, which is the main ingredient for socialism, whether nationalist, Marxist or otherwise. There may have been some conservative aspects of fascism from a German/Italian/Spanish perspective, but nothing right-wing.

  • The question is about Collectivism or Individualism

    Fascism is a Collectivist ideology, which emphasises the suppression of individual rights for the good of the state. German Fascism (Nazism) is classical Fascism, which is also heavily influenced by antisemitism. Fascism is clearly Left Wing as it is a collectivist ideology. I believe it erroneously began being labelled as Right Wing as it was considered to be Right of Communism, which it may well be but I have not heard any reasonable argument as to why.

  • Left=Bigger Gov, Right=Smaller Gov

    If anybody here says that Fascism is small government, you are utterly and completely uninformed. The extreme of the Left is big government, more power in the state, and that includes Communism, Socialism, and Fascism. The ironic thing about saying fascism is rightist is that Hitler's party was Socialist! The extreme of the Right is no government, or anarchy. I'm pretty sure that Fascism included a government.

  • They are nearly identical.

    This makes no sense, at least in terms of the right. Capitalism—the social system of individual rights, property rights, and personal liberty—has nothing in common with fascism.

    The essential components of Left-wing philosophy are:

    >Collectivism, "Collectivism is the moral stance, political philosophy, ideology, or social outlook that emphasizes the significance of groups—their identities, goals, rights, outcomes, etc.—and tends to analyze issues in those terms. Collectivism is a basic cultural element that exists as the reverse of individualism " -wiki.

    >Altruism/Self Sacrifice, "the principle or practice of unselfish concern for or devotion to the welfare of others (opposed to egoism )." Or more accurately…. "The basic principle of altruism is that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that service to others is the only justification of his existence, and that self-sacrifice is his highest moral duty, virtue and value."

    >Statism: "a political system in which the state has substantial centralized control over social and economic affairs." or…
    > "The political expression of altruism is collectivism or statism, which holds that man’s life and work belong to the state—to society, to the group, the gang, the race, the nation—and that the state may dispose of him in any way it pleases for the sake of whatever it deems to be its own tribal, collective good."- Ayn Rand

    The issue of Nationalism or internationalism fall under the Statism premise. It does so because the premise of a person in service to the state is the same, regardless of it's size. (Be it a county, a country, or the globe.)

    Now you might say that there is a difference in regard to property, but i'll ask you to check that premise.

    Fascism, far from having anything in common with capitalism, is essentially the same atrocity as communism and socialism—the only difference being that whereas communism and socialism openly call for state ownership of all property, fascism holds that some property may be “private”—so long as government can dictate how such property may be used. Sure, you own the factory, but here’s what you may and may not produce in it; here’s the minimum wage you must pay employees; here’s the kind of accounting system you must use; here are the specifications your machinery must meet; and so on.

    This is their Primary difference in theory. However, in practice and principle they are one and the same. "Both “socialism”(or communism) and “fascism” involve the issue of property rights. Under socialism, there is collective ownership of property de jure. Under fascism, there is the same collective ownership de facto. The right to property is the right of use and disposal. Ownership without control is a contradiction in terms: it means “property,” without the right to use it or to dispose of it. If a person does not have the right to dispose of his property, he does not have a right to property.
    In practice both “socialism” and “fascism” take communal ownership of an individual's property.

  • Fascism Is Socialism

    All socialism, and all socialists, are left-wing. Nazis and all other fascists are all Socialists. NAZI stood for National Socialist German Workers’ Party. All socialists have in common that they always advocate and practice public control of private property and, frequently, public confiscation of private property; disdain for individual rights and freedom; the supremacy of the state over the individual and relentless growth of government power. Communists and fascists disagree only on allowing nominal private property ownership.

  • Not about the ideology, but the function of the government

    The political spectrum has nothing to do with ideology, neither about the size of the government, but what the function of the government is. The ideologies of Leftists and Rightists are both calling for better societies and economies, but this doesn't mean that they agree on HOW the government should function. Though fascism may have this conservative air around it, in practice, it calls the government to take a role similar to communism. Sure, you can own private property, but the government tells you what you can make, when you can make it, and how much you can make it. How can fascism and capitalism, which says that everybody is free to trade and produce what they wish, have anything in common?

  • Not about the ideology, but the function of the government.

    The political spectrum has nothing to do with ideology, but what function the government is enrolled in. Both Leftists and Rightists are striving for better societies and better economies, but that doesn't mean they agree with how the government should function. Fascism may appear to be right-wing in ideology, but in governmental function, it utilizes left-wing practices.

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  • National socialism and communism / bolshevism both stem from totalitarian leftwing roots.

    The political left's delusion of a utopian egalitarian future and the perfectibility of man inevitably lead to the totalitarian temptation as witnessed once more today with the new Ideology of Multiculturalism and its absolute intolerance of dissenters who are invariably labeled as evil racists by the Leftist Church which stifles any real debate on the basis of its chilling and utterly misguided claim of superior moral high ground. National socialism and communism / bolshevism both stem from the same totalitarian leftwing roots.

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  • Anything that seeks to grow government control is left wing

    http://youtu.be/DioQooFIcgE

    The above YouTube video basically says it all. Sadly, most people have really lost track of what left and right wing really are... While everyone fights over their petty little special interest. Another good piece of educating video is here:

    http://youtu.Be/W-Dhv59JYpA

    Sadly most left wingers will probably not get either of these, but I figure it's with a try...

  • Define conservatism and liberalism...

    Conservatism is marked by traditional values and laissez-fare government.

    Liberalism is marked by moral relativism and government interference.

    By definition fascism is does not have to take a moral stand on social issues. Neither does communism. Not only do economic policies better define our political parties here than the social issues, but both communism and fascism can only be clearly defined in their state-control over the economy. Therefore both communism, fascism(a form of socialism), and liberalism all share the ideology of state-run economies.

    While they are all left-wing, equating the three on their face would be ignorant. Communism is to liberalism as anarchy is to conservatism. Just because an ideology can be made extreme it does not mean there is not a principled balance in the middle.
    -Mark F.

  • Left wing intolerance

    The Left has taken it's views and made them law. We all must march in line with this current administration on every social issue and if you disagree you are vilified. Christians are mocked and belittled by daring to believe that homosexuality is a sin. Tolerance is the first amendment

  • How can you state the many left wing parallels with fascism total government regulation and control over everthything.

    I don't understand how you dismiss the many similarities of leftist agenda in fascism. Economic control, control over living, healthcare etc.. Good faith Government control is what socialism aims for, and it quickly turns into what you saw with hitler...
    Calling discrimination something of a right wing origin is a joke, the democrats voted for slavery mind you.

  • Left, historically by origin, method, practice.

    The Fascists of Italy and National Socialists of Germany were the darlings of Leftist praise till they went to war with other Leftists in the Spanish Civil War; yet even after, but less so until the Left's attempt to disassociate with them when they went to war with the Left's favorite totalitarian, Uncle Joe Stalin in WW2. Just go peruse issues of the Progressive and New Republic from the early 1930's.
    Economics: means of production centrally controlled by the Party and its ministries, private or corporate ownership allowed if Party member. However, what your company produced, how much of it, your profit, and your wages for workers was all centrally determined by the State.
    Religion: Only tolerated to serve the State. Appeals made to the gods of the people to further serve the political power of the State, but both Fascists and National Socialists believed in the secular humanism that placed the State and leader above any god. State, Leader, the Peoples, were God. Both were eugenic Darwinists, that ultimately scorned the idea of a creative intelligence as origin or authority. The Party was God and supreme.
    All left wing toltalitarian varieties are ultra statist and nationalistic as it serves their needs to maintain the iron boot on all heads: Marxists, Communists, Fascists, National Socialists use great patriotic wars for political purpose just as any center right or center left constitutional republic does. Nationalism mixed with Statism places the fasciist on the Left, not Right.
    Individual Rights and Racism: As always with the Left equality is the battering ram used to throw away inconvenient rights of the individual. Any ethnic or religious group the State deems a scape goat or threat to its so called "correct, tolerant, equal" centrally engineered and controlled "utopia" of the new way or progress of its paticular Marxist/Statist ecomomics/ poltics will be denied life, liberty opportunities. Fascists had no problems with Muslims because they also hated Jews. Any imagined or real enemy of the the enforced, state engineered "equality" will have no rights, be persecuted, and even genocided. This happen in all the Left wing utopias: marxist, communist, national socialist/ fascist.

  • Fascism is a leftist philosophy although leftists will go to great lengths to avoid admitting it.

    Fascism at its core was an attempt to avoid going all the way to the left and embracing the Bolshevism coming out of Russia, but also a rejection of free market capitalism being practiced in the United States. It was not uncommon in Hitler's speeches for him to rail against the gangsters in the U.S. or malign FDR as a member of the privileged millionaire class. A proper left to right spectrum would have communism on the far left, fascism on the left, free market capitalism on the right, and Monarchism on the far right. The circle notion of communism and fascism going to extremes and meeting each other is amusing and aesthetically pleasing, but incorrect.

  • Opposite sides of the same coin.

    It seems to be assumed that because there are a few cosmetic differences between the two that they must be at opposite ends of the spectrum that is if you accept all political stances must be considered on a linear left/right axis. I think the main issue is in controlling the population in a one party state by force for the benefit of the state and implicitly (as proved in practice for the sole benefit of those that run the state) is so fundamentally extreme left wing that all other differences are irrelevant. If you applied the rules of Taxonomy it would be seen that there is no logical political stance on the extreme right that would sit comfortably next to Fascism while on the right it could be argued that Fascism is a form of extreme Socialism with much commonality in their ideals. Perhaps the fact they are so alike is the reason they hate each other so much.

  • Anti-individualism is therefore pro-collective

    Fascism is anti-individual at its core. Regardless of its policies of imperialism or its opposition to progressive ideology, fascism is more importantly a collectivist regime. Collectivism is the hallmark of left wing ideology. All collective philosophy stems from a false belief in unity/equality under some banner, be it racial, social, cultural, economic etc. The belief in a collective has many supporters on the right of the right/left political dichotomy (religionists, big government supporters, mixed economy believers) but EVERY left wing ideology depends on collectivism. The measure of how collective an ideology is indicates how far to the left that ideology is. The degree to which an ideology allows freedom from coercion to exist for each individual (no special interests, no protection from failure, no safety nets) is an indication of that ideology's position to the right. Fascism is therefore on the left.
    Interesting to note; Mussolini initially was on the left against the conservatives , then later called his regime right-wing, then later said fascists hate anyone that thinks in terms of left/right, and dispensed with the whole nomenclature. Contradictory and unfocused belief systems acting as some sort of proxy for a definable and delimited belief system is another characteristic of left-wing agitator groups. Evidence of this is displayed by the participants of the "occupy" movement having no clear principle to focus their protest, outside of the mob-like collective consciousness focused on the spirit of protest for protest's sake. The actual name for this is nihilism; the ultimate end of left wing ideology.

  • Fascism closer to totalitarianism than to anarchy

    While there are many excellent political grid systems, the traditional left-right grid ranges from totalitarianism on the left (the state runs all) to anarchy (every man for himself). It is a simplified view of world political ideologies, and limited in its usefulness accordingly.

    It is a mistake to mistake correlation of some sub-political traits, or some similarities, with identification. For example, patriotism is pride and dedication to country. The Nazi's were also patriotic, fanatically so. Does this make a patriotic group equivalent to the National Socialist German Worker's Party? By no means! It is very different to ask "what can I do for my country" vs. Asking "how can my country better force me and my neighbor to work for it?" There were many traits the Nazis held (anti-religion, racist, anti-communist, anti-disabled, strong police state, etc). To examine any one of these sub-traits, and how they line up with other political ideologies, one would need a more expansive grid system that could account for other variables.

    To put this into modern context: Libertarians and democrats often agree with each other on some social issues, whereas libertarians are more apt to support republicans on economic issues. Are libertarians therefore at the same spot as either the typical liberal democrat or conservative republican? No! Many posters on the 'no' side have listed (their interpretation) of many of the right's traits and determined that since they believe some traits to be similar, then they must all be equivalent. [The discussion that many of these interpretations are incorrect is best left to a different debate]. It should be pointed out that the republican party has a far better record on civil rights and equality than the democratic party. For the typical republican, all men are equal and judged on their actions and the content of their character. For the typical democrat, equality is thought of in economic terms and must be forced via government power (a similar sub-trait to socialism and communism in that regard).

    On the traditional grid, libertarians would fall farther right than conservative republicans (though not as far right as anarchy). This is because the typical republican supports -some- government intervention on social issues. Democrats are a little left of republicans, though not as near left as socialism, communism, fascism, totalitarianism, etc.

    Going back to the original problem: fascism falls to the left, because
    it supports a strong government that can dictate and control the rights of the people. It is far closer to the endpoint of totalitarianism than it is to the endpoint of anarchy.

  • Fascism is politically Left

    Fascism is the stage right before Communism, it places the decision making process of the economy in the hands of the government yet leaves the corporations privately owned. Laissez faire is where government has zero control of the means of production (totally privately owned) and communists total control of the means of production (Publicly owned) This is where people could argue that Fascism falls in the center, but most would argue that Fascism is a far step to the left as that control would not exist without big government and big government is not Conservative or Libertarian. Conservatives and Libertarians are closer to Anarchists than anything else because they believe in a small and limited government, Anarchy is obviously the lack of government entirely.

    Fascists pursue government control of the economy, the people, and everything else. Since Fascism is statist, and those on the political Right embrace personal freedom and responsibility, Fascism has no logical relationship to the Conservative ideology of the political Right. Top down Authoritarian government is not a relationship that conservatives are voting for, rather the opposite, a smaller more accountable government is their objective.

    Nazi's were “National Socialist” and arose from the “National German Workers’ Party” and later became the “National Socialist German Workers’ Party. Sounds like a communist/socialist/union name to me. Far right names go like this The Tea Party, Libertarians, Constitutionalists, The Freedom Party etc.

  • Looking at Both sides

    I couldn't offer an opinion myself because I didn't know enough. After reading posts from both sides, it seems to me that the argument for the left is the best reasoned one. The responses are more concerned with informing rather than labeling. I understand the cross-over argument, but that it how philosophies go. It seems to most resemble the actions of those who claim a left-wing ideology.

  • Its about a large state that always looks out for its own.

    Aside from the appeal to nationalism Fascism embraces solidly left wing traits. Now the Nazis were, to be honest, so insane that its difficult to place them on the spectrum but where i to make an observation i would point out that far from creating antisemitism in germany, they fed upon and amplified pre-existing sentiments in a populist way which has only very recently been attempted by the right and was previously only in agrarianism (cross spectrum) and socialism (i.E. Peace land bread).

  • More left than right

    If right and left wing are essentially economic terms (as a recent theory goes), social issue don't necessarily fall into either. However, if I had to pick one, I see no real correlation between the right wing and fascism. As fascism is identified with strict control, and the left wing asks for state control of assets, one can argue that fascism has more in common with the left than the right. But it might be more helpful to say that it is neither.

  • Far Left is Totalitarianism; Far Right is Anarchy

    Whether the issue is economic or social, the Left feels a large Government entity is necessary to manage it, and the Right feels that societal issues can be managed much better by the private sector.

    Political terms are created and defined by "Scholars" who tend to be "high minded" ideologues. The terms and definitions that have staying power are the ones the serve the purpose of political partisanship. The terms and definitions that are objectives, coherent, and consistent, don't serve political propaganda and tend to fall by the waste side. Scholars tend to believe the Communist propaganda that government serves and protects the disadvantage and Capitalism serves the "1%".

    Those who favor the Left leaning ideology are people who believe that there is some form a government that will NOT become corrupt, but will serve the needs of the disadvantaged. Thus, to a Left leaning scholar large, centralized, far reaching, forms of government that are perceived as Evil are labelled 'Right leaning' and large, centralized, far reaching, forms of government that are perceived as beneficent are labelled Left leaning.

    Those who favor Right leaning ideology believe that the natural progression of any form of government is toward corruption. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Thus, Right leaning scholars perceive ALL forms of government as a necessary evil, and some don't consider government necessary at all.

    Thus, the objective definition of Left is the belief that Govt is necessary to 'solve' a societal issue, leaving the definition of Right to be the belief that a societal issue is better resolved by private sector forces.

    Nationalism is neither left nor right. Nationalism is often confused with the definition of racism. Since racism is evil, Nationalism must be evil, thus Nationalism is labelled Right. However, Communist countries tend to be the most Nationalistic government in human history.

    The 3rd Reich was a far Left government, even the most cursory examination of laws and governance under Nazism would reveal this.

  • Fascism is Left Wing

    The reason the left is so concerned with calling fascism "right-wing" is because they are scared and know they must hide the truth. Lets look at some facts. Fascism and the American Progressive movement were both born at the same time and were sister movements. Before Fascism was associated with evil many American leftists frequently compared their own movement with the "progress" of the time in Europe. Fascism was started by Benito Mussolini. He was a Socialist. There is no arguing that. HItler hated Jewish Capitalism. He saw it as the one thing that the Jews used to destroy the world. There was a big eugenics movement during the 20's led by liberal Margaret Sanger who wanted to see the extermination of the black and American Indian population. Hitler too used the very same techniques. Hitler disarmed the public, he took their guns. Is that right wing? Who is considered the most radical right wing in this country? The Tea Party. And they advocate for small government. Hitler was the exact opposite. His government controlled everything. Hitler promoted vegetarianism. He also made smoking in public places illegal. (Hint: Liberals in NYC are doing this today.) Really the only one thing the Left can claim proves Hitler was right wing is that he hated Communists. Why? Well Hitler need the German workers hence his "Deutsche Arbeitspartei" (German Workers Party.) Sound right wing? If the communists were a large party in Germany Hitler would lose a great deal of his supporters. So even though they were quite similar to him, he had to demonize and destroy them in order to leave himself the reigning left wing group. Last point is Nazi stands for NAtional SoZIalist Deutsche Arbeitspartei. National SOCIALIST German Workers Party

  • Government control, anti-religion

    Fascism is all about government control at the expense of the individual, at the expense of private property. An individuals purpose is to serve the state in their view. Fascists are extremely anti-religion. The stated purpose may be somewhat different, but the results of Fascism and Communism are exactly the same.

  • Far right wing.

    By definition, basically. Fascism is unbridled nationalism. Nothing outside the state, nothing above the state, everything within the state. Furthermore, Fascism asserts that one nation is inherently better than all others. This hierarchical viewpoint is characteristic of extreme right-wing ideology. Liberalism, in contrast, is usually opposed to nationalism and tends to encourage equality.

  • By very definition it's right wing.

    The DEFINITION of Fascism is "an authoritarian and nationalistic right wing system of government and social organization". While many sociologists and political analysts correctly state that it is difficult to place a system which got its roots from many sources on a traditional left-right spectrum, the majority place it as extreme right wing due to its social policies as well as its rabid nationalism.

    Contrary to what some opinions here have stated, you cannot determine "right wing" and "left wing" simply by how much role the government has- that's a quite recent American definition only, something that has fluxed significantly in our history. Whether a system is "left" or "right" is determined by a host of factors including social organization and policy and treatment of other nationalities. Scholar Roderick Stackleberg put it best: "the more a person deems absolute equality among all people to be a desirable condition, the further left he or she will be on the ideological spectrum. The more a person considers inequality to be unavoidable or even desirable, the further to the right he or she will be". Fascism's hatred for egalitarianism places it as the latter.

    The fact that fascism is violently hostile to liberal democracy and socialism mark it as "right wing". It also embraces many other right wing positions, such as xenophobia, ethnocentrism, social conservatism, totalitarianism, sexism/chauvanism, extremely conservative sexual mores, and palingenesis.

  • I don't think its either one

    Fascism is a social political ideology that has never fully been implemented. Societies (governments) that have tried get stuck in the communistic stage of development. When a dictator finally creates a totalitarian or oligarchy regime they don't want to give it over to the people to complete the theory. I would say in theory its more right but in practice its more left..Really neither one though.

    Posted by: rja7
  • The test is equality

    What is being left-wing about if not a belief in equality? The far left want something close to absolute equality of outcome for all individuals. And what was Nazism if not the polar opposite of that? Whole categories of people were considered so worthless that they were exterminated. On a less horrific note, the Nazis also reversed much of the earlier move towards gender equality in Germany.

  • It is the extreme right wing, but it is not much different than the extreme left wings authoritarianism, communism

    I was taught in school that instead of the linear line of political spectrum we should think of it more as a circle, with the extreme of the left and right meeting to complete the circle but that being said, lets take what an actual fascist said his definition of it was

    "Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power."

    -Benito Mussolini
    http://www.Goodreads.Com/author/quot...Nito_Mussolini

    So as you can see it does indeed seem like the circle idea of political ideology makes some sense, Corporate power is generally considered a right wing thing, and state power is generally a left wing thing.

    But the better question would be is facism the extreme of the left or right and I would say it is the extreme of the right and communism is the extreme left, but they are actually quite similar in practice.

  • Traditionally Described as Right Wing

    Fascism is traditionally though of as a right wing political mechanism through which extreme nationalism and devotion to the state are used to justify horrific policies and practices. As but one example, the Nazi party in Germany is perhaps history's most well-known and infamous fascist regime, and it was considered right wing.

  • Fascism is right-wing

    Fascism is the merger of the state and capitalism. The left-wing fights for a more egalitarian society. Left-wing doesn't mean more government. Fascism is anti-egalitarian, with instances of racism, smashing labor unions, and merging the state and capitalist hierarchy. Fascism is extremely anti-communism. The left-wing has been vehemently anti-fascist, fighting in all respects against it.

  • Right Wing Populism

    Fascism is a populist movement defined by a few major factors: Nationalism, Traditional Values, Militarism, and A state controlled but privately owned economy.

    As previously stated: The "big government" argument is poorly constructed in the left right spectrum. While American conservatives like to accuse the liberals of "big government", in reality, the difference between left and right is not the size of government but where the resources should be allocated. The same can be said for the argument that fascism is a step removed from Communism. In fact, Communists have historically been enemy number one for Fascists. Modern civil discourse, particularly in the United States, has seen an increasing amount of individuals on the right that have chosen to make the Fascism as left wing argument. Such an argument is simply not supported by history or political science. It would be fair to say that Fascism and Communism are at extreme ends of the spectrum and, if you imagine the spectrum as a circle or triangle, may touch and their totalitarian extremes.

    I will break down why it is a right wing movement.
    Nationalism: More than "national pride", nationalism emphasizes the exceptionalism of the nation. The people and culture are special and should not be corrupted by outside cultures. This can cross with traditional values. Hitler looked to traditional German culture, Franco to ultra conservative Catholicism, Mussolini to Roman virtues. The goal was to create a heterogeneous culture base off of traditional national values. The belief is one language, one religion, one culture. Intellectuals, foreigners, etc. are outsiders and troublemakers. This does not fit with the international, inclusive, pro cultural mixing ideals of the left. It does, however, fit with any conservative movement in any nation, only on steroids.

    Militarism: People should be armed to defend the nation. The military should be strong to defend the national interests. And no, Hitler didn't take all the guns away, most of the people were too busy being part of the war effort, either fighting in it, serving in volkstrum, or manufacturing munitions.To give up weapons that would be used against enemies of the state. And those contracts go to private companies using government money. The left prefers to avoid military expansion and prefers to perform government functions in house.

    While people jump to Nazism right away,t Italy, Spain, and Argentina had fascist governments. As a side note, the naming of the party has more to do with populism than right/left politics. In addition, naming conventions have changed over time and across cultures. Liberal used to simply mean pro democracy while conservatives pushed for the status quo, including monarchy. If any of the founders of the U.S., left or right, and yes there was a left and right wing on different issues, heard the word liberal, they would all identify as such. Yet I doubt today that any conservative in the U.S. would say that he or she was looking for monarchy. Using ninety year old naming conventions simply doesn't win the argument.

  • Fascism is right wing

    The difference between left wing and right wing is the manner in which wealth is distributed. Right wing systems believe that the survival of the fittest and preservation of tradition is best for society. This often leads to an open market and less government control, as those who earn more money are those who should survive. Left wing systems, on the other hand, believe in egalitarianism, where sharing wealth equally is believed to be best. This often leads to a stricter control by the government to oversee economic equality. Fascism indeed has a very large government structure, but the core values belong to the right wing.

  • "Left-wing" & "right-wing" have become subjective terms.

    For some, "left-wing" means "collectivist" (in sociology as opposed to economics) whilst "right-wing" means "individualist". By this definition, fascism is certainly "left-wing". However, this is an overly simplistic dichotomy, making no distinction between horizontal and vertical forms of collectivism or between nationalist collectivism and socialist collectivism (of course these last two are not mutually exclusive).
    I define Right and Left as "supporting" and "opposing" the established social structure and "way of things" respectively.
    Fascists were opposed to both capitalism (for its individualism) and socialism (for its egalitarianism). Whereas capitalism is the private ownership and control of business and industry, and socialism is the state ownership and control of business and industry, National Socialism - an extreme form of fascism instituted in Germany - left business mostly under private ownership but had it rigidly controlled by the state to serve the national interest (as opposed to working-class interests). Fascists destroyed trade unions, used the public purse to subsidise their favoured businesses, and protected the existing social structure through oppression of the working class and the provision of scapegoats (like the Jews) to distract them from revolutionary action - the Nazis wanted national unity and "class collaboration" and thus were opposed to Marxist notions such as "class struggle". Fascism also had very traditional views towards the role of men and women in society; they were utterly social conservative and nationalist and in these respects they were right-wing. This isn't to say that the fascists weren't influenced by the Left. Indeed, many fascists were socialists: Mussolini, for example, was originally staunchly socialist (but later asserted that Fascism was opposed to socialism in "The Doctrine of Fascism"); the Strasser brothers led the left wing of the Nazi party (though one was murdered during The Night of the Long Knives and the other was chased around the world by his right-wing partisans). Fascists also believed that the state had a role in ensuring the welfare of its members - in other words, they believed in having a welfare state. Of course for the Nazis this welfare was to be available only for Aryans. The Nazis believed in equality of opportunity for Germans (provided you were an Aryan male) - in fact "equality of opportunity" was how Hitler defined his form of socialism. The Nazis believed in hierarchy by merit and in this way were in fact opposed to the nobility and middle classes whose supremacy they deemed "unnatural". The Italian Fascists were "trenchocrats" who believed in the leadership of war heroes. It is important to note that the more radical left-wing elements in most fascist movements were kept in line by their leaders, who needed to keep conservatives on board: Franco kept the revolutionary Falange in line, Hitler had his left-wing partisans murdered, and Mussolini tried to curtail the powers of the regional Fascist leaders.

  • No real political scientists would say Fascism is left wing.

    The fact that so many think it is left wing is a testament to how far this "left means big government" idea has infected the Right. Nobody on the Left believes that the size of government has anything to do with liberalism or conservatism, right or left. It has a lot more to do with views on equality, who you identify with, whose interests you serve, how you feel about change, and whether that change looks towards the past, or the future. Also look at the Spanish Civil War, where all the right wingers supported Franco (who was fascist), and all the lefties supported the Republic. Fascism is an ideology of the far Right, although admittedly the left-right spectrum unravels a bit when you go to the extremes. Maybe it really should be a circle, as others have suggested.

  • Right-wing, for very obvious reasons

    The difference between the far left (communists) and the far right (fascists) has to do with the belief in the equality of people. The people making arguments about "big government" are discussing the wrong thing. The inherent belief of fascism is that people are not equal. This was the belief that led to the Holocaust. They believed Jews, homosexuals, the crippled, and others were inherently unequal to the Aryan race. The promotion of the "state" was also a promotion of the Aryan race, a placing of a certain type of person on a pedestal. This is how you got the crazed nationalism. Communists believe the opposite. They believe that people are equal and the wealth of the world should be spread equally around. Whether or not any communist country has succeeded in this is arguable, but that is the philosophy at the root of Communism. While many purported Communist countries have been oppressive dictatorships, the goal of communism is to have a stateless society, what Marx described as the "withering away of the state." If you take modern American politics, as many other people have, you can still see the right-left paradigm. Republicans tend to be extremely nationalist, their view of economic policy is based on the idea that some will succeed and others will fail, a form of social Darwinism, they tend not to support gender equality, they're not supporters of gay rights, they tend to at least appear xenophobic in regards to Hispanics. The left tends to downplay patriotism, tend to support economic policy that leads to a more equal outcome, they support equal rights for gays, women, and immigrants. Obviously the modern right is far removed from the Nazis. The modern left has abandoned the idea of communism. But the left-right paradigm still fits.

  • Fascism is right-wing because of its social conservatism and authoritarian means of opposing egalitarianism.

    Roderick Stackelberg places fascism — including Nazism, which he says is "a radical variant of fascism" — on the political right, explaining that, "The more a person deems absolute equality among all people to be a desirable condition, the further left he or she will be on the ideological spectrum. The more a person considers inequality to be unavoidable or even desirable, the further to the right he or she will be." Fascism operated from a Social Darwinist view of human relations. The aim was to promote superior individuals and weed out the weak. In terms of economic practice, this meant promoting the interests of successful businessmen while destroying trade unions and other organizations of the working class. Fascist governments encouraged the pursuit of private profit and offered many benefits to large businesses, but they demanded in return that all economic activity should serve the national interest. Historian Gaetano Salvemini argued in 1936 that fascism makes taxpayers responsible to private enterprise, because "the State pays for the blunders of private enterprise... Profit is private and individual. Loss is public and social."

  • Fascism - Defined

    An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. - Oxford Dictionary

    Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1][2] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. Influenced by national syndicalism, fascism originated in Italy during World War I, in opposition to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism. Fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[3][4] wikipedia

  • Fascism is right-wing

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  • The spectrum of totalitarianism and libertarianism is separate from that of conservatism and liberalism.

    Many before have said that big government always means left wing. The spectrum of big to little government however is completely separate from that of left or right. A totalitarian state, one in which government control everything, can be seen on both the extreme left spectrum, as seen by the Stalin regime and any other extreme communists or socialists which liquidated corporations and supported over equalization often leading to extreme corruption and mismanagement, or on the right, as seen by Fascist states such as Mussolini Italy or Franco Spain which through big government enforced moral conservative ideologies, fighting against Socialist and Communist supporters in both of their countries who wished an end to religion and class hierarchy, and extreme nationalism and traditionalism as seen in Mussolini Italy where the leaders attempted to connect the present government with the glory of Ancient Rome and Renaissance Italy. In comparison a government, if that is what you can call it, can be extremely libertarian and left, mainly in social ideas such as abortion, same-sex marriage and racial equality, or right, not supporting taxes or spending of money but still supporting the moral dogma and traditions of past generations. Both libertarian left and right are pro individual over big government. Thus fascism, which although sprouted from the nationalistic ideologies of young reformers, leaving its parties with names like National Socialism, ended up supporting the moral ideologies and traditions as well as big government intervention in far right ideologies such as separate spheres, as seen in the propaganda supporting the importance of German and Italian families and mother, xenophobia, and hyper nationalism that stemmed from its fights against the opposing communist, in the case of Nazi Germany and Franco Spain, parties.

  • Fascism redefined by the American right-wing doesn't change its original meaning.

    The modern American conservative movement has attempted to redefine the original meaning and components of fascism by utilizing Nazism in their argument that it's a left-wing ideology. The most common argument made is the fact that the Nazis were the National Socialist Party and the word socialist automatically puts it on the left-wing of the political spectrum. However, they fail to account for the nuances of European political parties that don't conform to Americans' definitions. They may be surprised of a very conservative, religious party called the Christian Democrats. The Nazis were not socialists, despite the name. Socialism is an economic model, not a social model, wherein the state or society controls the means of production for the benefit of all. Fascism actually pushes privatization of industry and pro-capitalist policies; thereby production, not social control of said means. One of the first things the Nazis did was jail the communists and labor union leaders. Fascism is further defined as having extreme nationalism, xenophobia through nativist policies. It's no wonder the American right wants to redefine fascism. Lewis Sinclair saw this in his 1935 book It Can't Happen Here when he wrote, "But he saw too that in America the struggle was befogged by the fact that the worst Fascists were they who disowned the word 'Fascism' and preached enslavement to Capitalism under the style of Constitutional and Traditional Native American Liberty."

  • Improper perspective of the political spectrum

    Consider the political spectrum in terms of 0 government to 100% government control. Fascism, Communism, Monarchy etc. would all be on the 100% end of the political spectrum versus anarchy being on the 0% government end of the spectrum. Every form of 100% government control may vary in their methods but they all yield an all powerful central government.

  • Fascism is right-wing

    Why are we even arguing about this? Terrifying that a majority of respondents are utterly clueless of history. "National Socialism" was not socialist. There was no public control of industry or the means of production. Germany's capitalists did just great under the Nazis. Hitler was funded by the Deutsche Bank, bought arms from the Krupps, and provided slave labor from the death camps to IG Farben! Nazism was not predicated on economic justice! It was predicated first and foremost on the kind of racial supremacist theories evidenced by your pal Jared Taylor; and secondly on the kind of rabid anti-communism evidenced by yourself! A distant third was the appropriation of socialist rhetoric as a means of tricking the German working class.

    Go to the library. Immediately. Do not open your mouths on the question again until you have read William Shirer's The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich cover to cover. Thank you.

  • Privatization is right-wing

    Fascists hate worker unions, support big corporations, and are socially very conservative. (usually)
    Perfect example: Pinochet- supported by MIlton Friedman. (NOT good for Chile by the way)
    It doesn't matter that it is big or small government. It is the Authoritarian Right.
    Americans usually say it is left-wing because of its authoritarian nature and sometimes socialist origins, but since major corporatism is present, it is not supported by the left.

  • It's about Economics, not Politics

    People who come up with an agenda that benefits them at the expense of others have to find a way to gather support for their ideas before that agenda can be enacted as policy. In order to gain that support, the actual goals of the agenda have to be masked in some way. This is usually accomplished through propaganda, deceit, and slight-of-hand misdirection.

    Why?

    Because every society possesses a limited supply of prestige and power and wealth; societies operate as a a close system. For any individual or group to acquire more of these valued items, other members of society must surrender a portion of the "percentage" of these items that belong to them.

    Keeping the discussion of fascism focused on its being a political system does little to point out what's really happening in societies that follow a fascist model.

    Fascism is definitely a political system where the power to control the direction the society takes is centralized. But power in itself is worthless until it is put to use.

    In fascist societies power is exercised for the benefit of an elite few members of that society. The goal is to permit those elites to gather to themselves greater and greater portions of the wealth that society possesses.

    The submergence of individualism in the collective is a method of control pushed upon the masses through socialization and propaganda. It applies to the masses, and only to the masses. The political leaders of the society, and the elites who control finance and manufacturing and commerce are entirely exempt.

    In the 1930's, American bankers and industrialists -- the sons of the American robber barons -- who provided the support needed to get the NAZI party installed as the governing faction of post WW-1 Germany.

    And what did this so-called political party do with its power? They confiscated the wealth belonging to Jews and other ethnic minorities. Then they pillaged the European continent, looting the wealth and cultural treasures that once belonged to individuals and community based entities.

    In America today, government has become the tool of corporations and wealthy individuals by which they gather to themselves increasingly larger portions of our society's economic resources. Democratic and liberal politicians have been co-opted by right wing extremists to take a centrist position on issues where the right wing is attacking traditional American values and institutions responsible for the rise of the middle class.

    The goals supported by so-called "conservatives" are all directed at the rise of corporate power and the destruction of the American middle class. The path we are presently taking will inevitably lead to the submergence of the individual into the collective.

    Where have we seen that before? Contemporary "conservatism" is the political ideology of all right wing, fascist organizations.

  • Right-wing leaning spectrum

    According to the political spectrum and pollical ideology, Fascism leans right. Capitalisms, Socialisms, And communisms are economic systems which all three leans left. If a society gives up their rights for security by the state, It is right leaning and causes both a authoritarian dictatorships and a fascism or nationalistic government.

  • Fascism is and always has been right wing

    I'm so sick of this rewriting of history by conservatives that fascism is a left wing ideology. It's true that fascists weren't entirely free-market capitalists but they still weren't liberal. They were corporatists who believed in self-reliance and "productive" capitalism, Meaning they believed in a profit motive but not profits off banking speculation. They believed in having a set number of state-sponsored corporations in a marriage of public and private enterprise. They were opposed to the ideas of domestic class struggle promoted by Marxism. Socially, They were traditionalists who were opposed to homosexuality and sodomy. They believed that a woman's role was that of housekeeper. They were opposed to charity and social welfare as they felt this only enabled the feeble and the weakest members of society. They were proponents of social Darwinism. It is true that the Nazis instituted a form of welfare, But this was only done for pure Aryans and was done reluctantly.

  • Fascism is right wing.

    Under fascism, Unions were smashed, Industry was privatized/stayed privatized, Business owners benefited the most, Workers were negatively affected the most, Tradition was enforced, And hierarchy was enforced. Also, Fascism was popular among the upper classes, And least popular among lower ones. One could point out that fascists favored big government while the political right favors small government and the left favors big government. This argument is based off a one dimensional political scale which combines market power with freedom of people. However, This scale is fallacious because from a historical context, The right wing favored keeping old european monarchy, Most of which were authoritarian. Also, The conservative monarchies of the middle east are generally considered authoritarian. A better political chart would be a political compass, Which separates the freedom of the market from the freedom of the people. Market freedom is represented on an X axis (far left representing no market power and far right representing total market power) and a Y axis (far up meaning Totalitarianism and far down meaning complete Anarchism). On this chart, Fascism would be far up on the Y axis but would be center right because fascism still supported some regulations on the market but not enough to go towards the left.

  • Corporatism is right and so if fascism

    All the fascist elements show a love for big business and support them, Chile, Germany, Italy and Spain. They show support for conservative elements like the military(which helps to keep popular movements at bay), Aristocrats, Big industrialists and land owners. Fascism in Italy and Germany have actually had big industrialists join the party and influence the party, Helping to donate money and efforts to help the fascists. They may support the state but that doesn't make a difference in the end if the state is run by the military, Big business and a party run by, You guessed it an individual. Just realise all fascist parties support one INDIVIDUAL taking power for the greater good. The fact that after this INDIVIDUAL steps down the system fails is because this individual is prominent to fascism that promotes social Darwinism which in itself is technically a feature in capitalism (if you don't succeed you get eradicated). Fascism supports the movement of states to help business and military stay in control and use corporatism as a form of economics to keep the working class satisfied not happy. No fascist state has ever abolished the system of capitalism and has only promoted it and protected.

    Collectivism either isn't just left wing, Right wing had it as well when the political spectrum started. Right wingers wanted the monarchy to stay in control so the collectivism was protected, Look it up on Wikipedia as well as corporatism as well.

    GOVERNMENT CONTROL DOESN'T EQUAL LEFT WING JUST EQUALS AUTHORITARIANISM WHICH IS INHERANT IN ALL POLITICAL WINGS.

  • Fascism isn't strictly tied to either side of the political spectrum

    Stalin was a far-left fascist dictator. Hitler was a far-right fascist dictator.

    As far as national socialism goes, It IS far right, And if you believe otherwise, Your education system has failed you. I'm a German, And we analyze and learn about our past a good deal more than other countries do. Until very recently it has never occurred to me that there even was a debate about this. The whole concept is as alien to me as the flat earth theory.

    You have to ignore a lot of the obvious hints and incorrectly associate policies with either political side to believe that the nazis were left. Turns out, When things turn radical, Both wings have a lot in common.

    Hitler's agenda was quite literally to "make Germany great again". He rose to power by forming a coalition with the DNVP (Deutschnationale Volkspartei, The pro-empire / pro-emperor, Monarchist, Nationalist conservative party). One of his first actions in power was to systematically prosecute and kill members of the KPD (Communist Party of Germany), And to declare bolshevism (a marxist faction, Basically Stalin's people) his main enemy besides the Jewish population in Europe.

    Also he did not specifically wage war on the jews due to their capitalist associations, It's quite ignorant to think that. It was just one of their many propaganda points to rile up the masses. It's undeniable that the Jewish population was being associated with wealth more than other ethnicities, Because historically, They'd take on jobs such as, For example, Bankiers, Or run stores. They *were* more wealthy in general than the rest of the population, And the nazi propaganda machine used this to spread hate among the German population, By making up what is known as the "Dolchstosslegende", Which is a politically motivated false explanation of how Germany capitulated towards the end of World War I. In essence, It scapegoated the jews by claiming that they staged an army coup that then betrayed the rest of the German war machine that was still fighting, By "stabbing them in the back" and forcing Germany to surrender.
    Hitler combined this fictional story of a betrayal with the fact that most jewish families were more wealthy than what he portrayed as "aryan population that rightfully owns this land" to sow hate and mobilize his supporters.

  • Very much left-wing.

    It is the direct product of cultural marxism. You only have to look at Antifa in America who advocate and practice extreme violence often with tragic consequences against anyone who doesn't share their extreme ideology.
    The left supporters such as Angela Merkel and the European Union are endorsing and pushing an anti-white agenda and genocide world-wide.

  • You can't have an opinion on a fact

    It is sad when people think facts are opinions the fascists stated quite clearly in their doctrines from the beginning they were right wing they identified self identified as right wing. . . That should settle it right there, If 75% of the population are idiots the fact they are a majority does not change a fact

    This makes D’Souza’s claim that the philosopher of fascism was “a committed socialist” flatly false. It further demonstrates Dinesh’s claim intentionally dishonest at worst or intellectually lazy at best. This is because Dinesh quotes from “The Doctrine of Fascism” in his video. Either he read the essay and intentionally ignored the quotes I have given because they don’t fit his narrative or he didn’t read the essay. To add insult to injury, Giovanni further states in this essay that “Political doctrines pass; people remain. It is to be expected that this century may be that of authority, A century of the “Right, ” a Fascist century. ” You read that correctly. Not only does Dinesh D’Souza ignore that Gentile was critical of Marxian Socialism in a feeble attempt to connect Fascism to the left, He ignores that Gentile himself claimed that fascism is a political ideology of the Right.

  • Nazism is right wing. Hard to listen to someone who can't even get that right Nazism is right wing. Hard to listen to someone who

    Nazism is right wing. Hard to listen to someone who can't even get that right Nazism is right wing. Hard to listen to someone who can't even get that right Nazism is right wing. Hard to listen to someone who can't even get that right Nazism is right wing. Hard to listen to someone who can't even get that right

  • Fascism is right-wing regardless of attempts from the right to re-write history.

    Forget about the past for a second as it's explicitly clear that Nazis were always of the right-wing. Not an issue.
    Test: Go to every right-wing site you can find as I have and simply ask how many folks there are "lefties". You will find none. Ask how many support (list anything you wish which the left stands for) and you will find none.
    That this is even a topic for discussion now shows nothing other than right-wing attempts to break away from them being, correctly, associated with their Nazis past. The source of this disinformation campaign can be traced to the predictable right-wing "think tanks" where folks like the rarely honest D'Souza, Crowder, etc....Happily receive support.

  • Fascism is Far Right

    I'm not sure why this is even a debate subject (I stumbled on this inadvertently). Fascism is a far right, nationalistic, authoritarian capitalism in it's most basic construct. It's a bit unsettling that you can do a search on Fascism, end up on this page of "debaters" that claim (74% as of the time of my writing) that Fascism is "Left wing". When was the last time you heard of a "Left Wing" supporting Neo-Nazi? Though "Socialism" was in the name, the Nazi party was founded on authoritarian nationalism. If you do research on "Fascism" you'll find that political scientists classify Fascism as "The Far Right".

  • Not useful to categorize as left vs. Right, but it's typically considered right wing

    Fascism has become a meaningless term. It should refer to an authoritarian government or movement that is ultra-nationalist and racist/xenophobic. Aspects of that organization could be considered right-wing, e.g. Nazis abolishing worker rights, or the emotional appeal of "Positive Christianity". Other aspects could be considered left-wing, such as some wealth redistribution or Nazi social welfare policies (although obviously that social welfare wasn't meant for everyone...). The point is, the only things truly separating a fascist government from any other authoritarian one is strong nationalism/jingoism and extreme racism, "otherization" and scapegoating. In my country (USA), those tend to be tenets of right wing parties. I want to point this out because the idea that fascism is solely a left-wing phenomena is from a concerted right-wing propaganda effort.

    I'm sure there are people on here arguing that all authoritarians, fascist or otherwise, are left-wing since it means "big government"; those people are morons. Power can become vertically oriented in any system, whether it's in the hands of politicians or corporate masters. It doesn't matter, so long as the folks in power have some sort of mass media control.

  • Conservatives are using Hitler's big lie to call liberals themselves

    It is so wretchedly absurd that the Far Right in America are trying to call liberals fascists, I am amazed that once again I have to answer this stupid question. If a bunch of racist conservative extremists just marched in Charlottesville chanting "Blood and Soil" and "Jews Will Not Replace Us," I think it would be obvious to anyone who wasn't an idiot that the Right is fascist, not liberals. As a matter of fact, liberals are diametrically opposed to Fascism as opposed to conservatives, who are always defending racism on the Internet and who just elected an authoritarian racist as president? Come on, is this a joke? How abysmally stupid are the American people if they don't know if fascism is left or right? It is this same ignorance and stupidity that corporate fascists are exploiting in their continuing efforts to establish a totalitarian state ruled by corrupt kleptocrat billionaires. Ignorance is the friend of Repression.

  • 2+2=5 or not?

    I would say that fascism can be left or right, religious or atheist,capitalist or socialist.Generally though it seems that fascism is much more tied to the ideologies of the far right.You may argue that the nazis were socialist but we all know deep down that is not the case.And, george orwell really was a socialist.

  • Fascism is right authoritarianism.

    On a typical two axis chart, both communism and fascism are totalitarian. However the underlying ideologies are quite different. Communism is an embarrassing over extension on such memes as workers rights and power to the people. Fascism is a similar embarrassment of conservative ideals concerning such things as national, religious and even racist identities.

  • It's mostly, if not entirely, Reich-wing

    I can't help but laugh at the results of this debate. A quick Google search is literally all that is needed for the precise definition of the word "fascism". This one is from Merriam-Webster dictionary: fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

    In layman's terms, fascism is a government ruled typically by one dictating ruler, like Hitler's Nazi Germany, in which typically involves the suppression of opposing views and usually favors one ethnicity over all others. It's a one-party authoritarian system, free of liberal democracy. Nationalism is also a major characteristic of fascism.

    Literally all of the above are Reich-wing traits. We're experiencing a wave of nationalism and white supremacy in which all opposing views are dismissed immediately and without hesitation. Most Reich-wingers would absolutely love if all duh lefties died or lost power. Likewise, proportionately fewer people on the left wish the same for them. Reich-wing "Americans" constantly use fear to gain support, which is an incredibly huge trait in fascism.

    Literally nothing I can think of about fascism has anything to do with left-wing politics. Morons on the Reich are so uneducated and easily scared and manipulated that they read something like "National Socialist German Worker's Party", and automatically assume Nazis were socialists and wrongly equate them to liberals. Having the word "socialist" in your name doesn't make you socialist, your actions do, and there was absolutely nothing about Nazi Germany that was socialist. Just like the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" doesn't make them democratic. You think passing down ruling power from one family member to the next is democratic? I fucking hope not. Same with Venezuela, which I never get tired of hearing dumbass Reich-wingers try to inaccurately equate to American socialism.

    Fact is, no matter how much Reich-wingers want to deny it and push the blame towards the left, right-wing politics is the basis for most of our societies most horrible types of government. The only thing I can think of on the left is communism, and that's nowhere near as bad as any of the above mentioned governments. Not only that, but American socialists have been very clear that we don't want communism in America, despite the constant accusations from the Reich that we're just all dirty commie bastards here on the left. Oh, what it must like to be that simple-minded.

  • Jesus Christ how dumb are you?

    Fascism, something which was created by Mussolini, is a far right political philosophy. Mussolini was himself a Socialist when he was young, but the first world war lead him to believe that the left was weak, so he turned to conservatism, and eventually, "ultra conservatism." Now, I don't believe that Republicans are fascists, but to say that they are further from fascism than democrats only serves to demonstrate ultra partisan ignorance. Communism, which I have here seen compared to fascism, has been butchered. In ideas, it is the polar opposite of fascism, and supports liberating all people, as opposed to just killing those who have dissenting views. Admittedly, many fascist dictators have tricked their people into believing they are a communist so that they might attract the people, but in the end, what they call themselves is irrelevant. Fascism is, on paper, far right authoritarianism with a large military and a secret police. Communism is, on paper, a destruction of an exploiting government, and a "dictatorship of the proletariat" which is a metaphorical dictatorship, and is in actuality merely a rule of law in favour of the people.

  • Fascism is clearly right-wing. The guiding principles are right-wing (in the American sense of the word) carried to the extreme.

    There are several marks that clearly designate Fascism as extreme right-wing:

    1. Legitimate citizens vs. "others."

    Fascism appeals to a sense of "our" country being invaded by "them". What constitutes the "us" in this argument shifts slightly from fascist state to fascist state but it usually refers to the traditionally predominant culture and some signifier (religion, skin color, language or all of the above) that can be used to distinguish "them".

    2. Fascism promotes extreme nationalism. Our country is the greatest and all others are inferior because of our "pure" heritage. Anyone that sullies that heritage is a danger and a threat. Citizenship should not be offered to "them", only to "us".

    3. Usually one religion is good and all others are bad. This religion is the "state" religion. Not being part of that state religion makes you one of "them".

    4. Don't trust anyone but the leader. The leader trumps the law and the constitution. He is the embodiment of the will of the people and therefore his actions must not be questioned. Everyone else is working against the leader and only by brute force and unreserved power can the leader carry out the will of "us".

    There are others, but these are unique to right-wing extremism, in my opinion. Left-wing extremism works in a different way and has its own unique signifiers.

  • Right wing, chauvinist, authoritarian.

    While any organized government can come under control of a Dictator, Fascism describes an ideology that is primarily authoritarian, with a hierarchical structure rooted in nationalism and militarism and generally opposed to democracy and liberalism. It also often includes elements of racism. If you look at many countries, the right wing parties have 'lite' fascism as their core. Heavy nationalism, issues with immigration based on race creed - distinct dislikes of people who are different than they are. Most also support policies that keep or bring a wealthy elite into power, and limit a governments ability to fight fascist tenancies.

  • Fascism is vehemently opposed to Communism

    I lived in fascist Spain during the 1960s and 70s, up to and through the death of Generalísimo Francisco Franco who, with his troops and others in the Spanish military, plus energetic support from the Catholic Church, overthrew the democratically elected government, fearing its left-wing posture would lead Spain to Communism. The fascists I knew all had a few things in common: God first, the Nation second,family third, and the individual a distant also-ran; suspicion of all things "foreign", including people and ideas; conformity to social norms and a healthy respect for the "qué dirán", literally what people say about you to others (including the police); acceptance of extreme limits upon personal liberties in the name of protecting "The State". Publicly everyone was rabidly an "anti-Communist", though in private opinions were more varied, and many people had friends and relatives who were still in exile in France, México, Argentina the US, even the Soviet Union. Ironically, Spain developed a fairly close relationship with Castro and Communist Cuba, though not because of a socio-political affinity but rather from still close familial ties of Spanish and esplecially Galician émigrés to Cuba and their relatives still in the Iberian Peninsula. Most Spanish Fascists I knew believed that Spain's form of Fascism was far truer to the ideology than was Italy's under Mussolini or even Germany's under Hitler. Perhaps they would have accepted as orthodox Fascism that of Portugal's António de Oliveira Salazar, who was actually an economist and moved Portugal quickly into the corporatist-authoritarian style of Fascism.

  • No, no, no.

    Fascism refers specifically to a right-wing political philosophy. Key tenets are nationalism, rejection of universal human rights, emphasis on policy of fear and scapegoating, militarism, sexism, suppression of media and labor, religious rhetoric, corporatism, anti-intellectualism, voter suppression. These are all anathema to leftist ideology and therefore "leftist fascism" is an oxymoron.

  • Fascism is by definition a right wing ideology.

    Fascism refers specifically to a right-wing political philosophy. Key tenets are nationalism, rejection of universal human rights, emphasis on policy of fear and scapegoating, militarism, sexism, suppression of media and labor, religious rhetoric, corporatism, anti-intellectualism, voter suppression. These are all anathema to leftist ideology and therefore "leftist fascism" is an oxymoron.

  • Fascism Is Extreme Conservatism

    Fascism looks to the past for its values. It is not 'progressive' in the liberal sense of the word. The Third Reich sought to reestablish the values of the first two. The Fascist symbol is taken from ancient Rome. Mussolini tried to reestablish a glorious future by rebirthing a Roman Empire. Communists were at odds with the Fascists because they were left wing and wanted to break with the past. They both ended up being autocratic, but their value systems were entirely different.

  • Uh, "fascists oppose religion" Franco, Salazar

    It never ceases to amaze me how blind right-wingers are to the fact that Fascism is incredibly religion-centric, particularly Christian, and mostly commonly Roman Catholic. There was nothing "anti-Catholic" about Francoist Spain or Salazar's Portugal, in fact Franco flaunted his public Sunday Mass attendance for forty years. Mussolini's personal views of Roman Catholicism aside, he aided them imensely and Hitler, well, founded his own religion based on Nordic Pagan and Wagnerism so even if Nazism was possible Christian-neutral it wasn't anti-religion (except obiviously anti-Judaism, which in itself is a product of Christianity). Also, if the "left-wing" takes away people's freedom, why are conservatives (right-wing) so opposed to abortion access, marijuana, same-sex marriage? And why does the right-wing want to get rid of public schools, teach creationism over science, ban non-Christians (including Jewish people and probably Mormons/Jehovah's Witnesses/Unitarians) from practicing their religion, and use the government to enforce cookie-cutter conservative (re. Fascist) Christian moral standards? Why has the right-wing abused the Second Amendment (in the US) to include the purchasing of machine guns? The last one is easier to answer, they are brainwashed by gun manufacturers who care only about making money and not about all the people they slay. People who buy guns for "protection" already live in corporatist fearmongering. Who owns those companies? People who either work in or have "friends" in the government. So corporations are fascist too!

  • Of course not.

    Any sort of totalitarian regime is necessarily right wing, even if it claims to be communist. The opposite of fascist is free-thinking, not socialist.

    Right wingers aren't free thinkers; they're constrained by religious and moral beliefs that they consider absolute. They like to think themselves free thinkers, but what they really are doing is debating one side of the argument in different mannerisms and proclaiming their opinion to be correct; that's basically the definition of totalitarian fascism.

  • Fascism as left NO!

    Fascism is more right wing than It is left because the left embraces more socialistic, communistic approaches to Govt. While the Right is more for the Nationalistic approach and one class of rights dictate over the others.
    Which is why both the left and right are bad.
    We need to vote more to the libertarian or Constitutional party's they believe far more that the Bill of rights was perfect as written and to not try and define them.

  • I am a right wing fascist.

    I do not believe the rights granted by the US constitution applies to those who are apparently against is as in gun control. More specific, if a leftist is pro-gun control, then they should have not right to bear arms. If a leftist is against illegal search an seizure, then they need to have their doors busted in at 3:00 AM anytime and anywhere for any reason. And so on. I am a right wing fascist to the core.

  • Are you fucking serious?

    Ayy lmao fullcommunism ftw ecks dee wew wew kek kek Stalin did nothing wrong kulaks deserved it kys fascists, am I rite? Lul lul lul liberals too. I <3 kommunism or makes me happy. Fuck the bourgie bourgies, wew wew kek kek kys lmao hue hue hue tootaloo reactionaries kek.

  • Fascism is extremely right wing

    The whole belief that big government is leftism is absolutely wrong. Killing people due to race is a right wing philisophy and the fact that the majority on here say that fascism is left wing shows how brainwashed our society is by the bourgeois. The left is about workers owning the means of production and having workplace democracy as well as governmental democracy.

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  • The Right-Wing Is Extremely Fascist

    Political pundits and activists almost exclusively on the right-wing will tell you fascism is a left-wing ideal. But I'm here to say they are wrong, because it is actually quite opposite. In fact, technically speaking, the left-wing CAN'T be fascist, because they are more open-minded to new beliefs, and willing to discard traditional value. The right-wing everything they can to force their religious and bias motions in our faces. That is fascist! They're trying what the Nazis did, establishing their single-minded opinions as dominant. You know? In Star Wars, the Empire was ruled under a single like-minded social order. Then, there were the rebels who fought for their individuality, and for their freedom to become whom they desired to be. The right-wing operates like the Empire, and the left-wing operates like the rebels. I see only two solutions to the clash of left and right policies. One, we become the Emprie, and unite under a single social order. Or two, we fight for our freedom to be individual from the other.

  • Fascism is right wing

    Fascism is clearly right wing. It is in clear opposition to most left wing scholars. One of the arguments in favor of fascism being left wing is that the Nazi's were called the national socialists. However, the name doesn't prove anything as North Korea calls itself a democratic people's republic (it clearly isn't). What fascism is most described as is corporations working with and controlling the government. Left Wing views tend to be centered more against capitalism (the center-left embraces Nordic capitalism but all further strands are opposed to capitalism). Corporations are a defining feature of capitalism (and by further measures right wing), so to have them control the government is the furthest right that you can get. It is true that the Nazi party is only center right, but this is due to them embracing both far left and far right ideas (but united in social authoritarianism). The Nazi party isn't fully fascist because of the left wing ideas that they embraced.

  • Fascism is by definition right wing.

    The very philosophical core of fascism is inherently opposed to left politics, assuming we mean the left as all who are anti capitalist. Fascism grows around the idea that it is possible and necessary to have order in a class system. That flys in the face of conflict theory, the socialist theory that class can not exist without class struggle. So in conclusion, we see that fascism's philosophical base of functionalism is directly opposed to the leftist conflict theory.

  • The further left you go the more government you get.

    Far right wing would be considered anarchy with no government. From there going left you get more and more government until you reach the far left which has all the ism politics. Socialism, communism, fascism which would be the equivalent the the extreme far right of anarchy. To break it down, extreme right = no government extreme left = all government. Pretty simple concept.

  • Fascism is against leftist beleif

    Fascism believes in a good work ethic and is against communism which is a far leftist beleif, fascism also tolerates war and believes in a strong military in fascism war is seeked as an opportunity to fight for a common goal. One of fascism's purposes is to prevent government power from being abused.

  • Fascism is against communism and supports strong military

    Fascism supports a good work ethic and is against communism , it also tolerates war and defense and seeks it as an opportunity to fight for a common goal fascism's purpose is also to prevent government from getting into the wrong hands and to prevent government power from being abused.

  • Just look at the founder, he was always far left.

    I get it, leftist professors don't want this guy in their camp, so they call his rule far-right. But Mussolini, the founder of Fascism, was a radical left-winger his entire life (see below). All dictators (Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Mussolini) love the country they rule, so with this trick of "nationalism is far-right" professors can claim any nutty ruler a right-winger. They avoid the uncomfortable governmental economic central planning, regulations, and decades of leftist thought. Only a silly fool would fall for this false dichotomy.

    "Known as Il Duce ("the leader"), Mussolini was the founder of fascism.

    In 1912 Mussolini was the leading member of the National Directorate of the Italian Socialist Party (PSI). Prior to 1914 he was a keen supporter of the Socialist International, starting the series of meetings in Switzerland that organized the communist revolutions and insurrections that swept through Europe from 1917."
    https://en.Wikipedia.Org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini

  • Please, someone challenge me.

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  • Fascism is right wing.

    Fascism is, by definition, a right wing ideology; despite the obvious similarities to left wing ideas (such as those of Stalinist Russia, which is why the "political spectrum" is a poor descriptor), it generally places focus on and emphasizes extreme nationalism, something the extreme left has historically opposed in favor of more "international" ideas (communism's focus on uniting the workers of the world and abolishing capitalism, for example).

  • Fascism Goes Against Core Principles of the Left Wing

    Let me start with government intervention is not left wing. In a two dimensional political ideology chart there is left wing libertarianism (successful communism) and right wing authoritarianism (Totalitarianism, North Korea). There is also left wing authoritarianism (SU) and right wing libertarianism (laizzes faire). Now the ideals of the left wing are based on social change. The left wing in the US has consistently been for civil rights, and peace. Anti-war movements arise generally from the left wing, but the left wing itself is split on when war is okay. The left is rarely nationalistic compared to the right. And from these social stances, fascism is clearly to the right. Xenophobia, nationalism, and hawkism are common traits to the right. Authoritarianism is not naturally left wing, and that seems to be the only argument I can find to why it would be left wing. Moreover, fascism is not about helping all of the people of a country. It coalesces around the majority, and rejects minorities as a part of the problem. Leftist ideas support the minorities. Communism is the farthest left one can go, and it is completely about making everyone equal at the expense of economic freedom. Once it is successful it results in a lack of government. Fascism is by nature about competing with other countries. A true fascist state would defeat those around it in war, continually boosting nationalism, and as a governmental system resembles capitalism as an economic system. Fascist principles hold the weaker individuals as a problem. The nationalism bolsters the country to think they are stronger than the others, and compete with them in a global market with no rules. The end state of fascism is a world with only one country. A monopoly of government.

  • It's clearly on the right. They jailed and outlawed liberal and Marxism.

    Who is nationalist, traditionalist, Christian, conservative, pro capitalist, anti immigrant, anti feminist, pro family, homophobic, and against sexual liberation?

    The right wing?

    Actually that's the fascists.

    Any reading whatsoever would clearly see that their policies are nearly identical to the modern ultra-right. An anti intellectual pro military Christian nation that will make Italy great again? Yep that's fascism


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1dustpelt says2013-08-20T20:03:08.470
It's neither. Left wing and right wing has never been good at describing anything anyways.
Marshall-Abarca says2013-08-20T20:55:12.463
Left-wing and right-wing are the best way to describe these things though. The only other option I've seen is the Nolan chart, however the fatal flaw in that one is that it doesn't take into account that Conservatives and Liberals have many different forms, the linear chart however does take this into account. I've seen political webs before as a way of describing things but they are overly complex, the linear model does things in much more simplistic manner.
Repukesaretheworst says2017-12-08T16:28:24.233
Fascism is 100% Reich-wing, BY DEFINITION, you fucking morons. Only conservatives would paint the left-wing as the very thing they themselves are: fascists.
billsands says2018-10-16T01:33:54.503
It further demonstrates Dinesh’s claim intentionally dishonest at worst or intellectually lazy at best. This is because Dinesh quotes from “The Doctrine of Fascism” in his video. Either he read the essay and intentionally ignored the quotes I have given because they don’t fit his narrative or he didn’t read the essay. To add insult to injury, Giovanni further states in this essay that “Political doctrines pass; people remain. It is to be expected that this century may be that of authority, A century of the “Right, ” a Fascist century. ” You read that correctly. Not only does Dinesh D’Souza ignore that Gentile was critical of Marxian Socialism in a feeble attempt to connect Fascism to the left, He ignores that Gentile himself claimed that fascism is a political ideology of the Right.