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  • Without freedom, there is no safety

    "Security" is becoming a vague term used to justify acts of censorship and the trampling on of personal rights and liberties. This can include security from terrorists, security from others, or security from ourselves. No matter what the threat is at the time, no amount of protection will keep the people totally secure. It is better to for one to be free and face the consequences of freedom than it is to be safe and have no choices over one's own life.

  • "If a government is big enough to give you everything you have it is big enough to take everything you have"

    Look at Nazi Germany as a case study. After the Reichstag fire Hitler proposed authoritarian decrees that led to a totalitarian state in the name of public safety. We are in a slow transition that sees us giving up more and more liberties. No fly lists, search and detainment without arrest, constant surveillance, the list is slowly getting bigger. And they continue to fuel fear with propaganda. A democracy requires effort and sacrifice on behalf of all its citizens.

  • IDK. It's whatever.

    I got assigned this in history class. I looked on this site for opinions and stances but its all pretty bad. And you fucking pansy discussing this stupid shit is smart as the nuts on your fucking ancestors stop discussing this and enjoy life you sad piece of shits DAMN

  • Words from high school student!!!!!

    If you want safety over freedom your basically giving up your right to live as you please because they (whoever corresponds) will be able to manipulate your position or maybe even privacy to make sure you are "safe." BUT if your have freedom then you will be able to arm yourself as the second amendment grants you, as well as you can dictate where is safer for yourself. That was you have the peace at mind that you have done everything you could to protect yourself using the FREEDOM granted to you.

  • Yes it is more important ok

    Who wants to be locked up nobody so freedom is way way better than security who wants to be a sell out and nobody cares about their opinion so suck it up freedom is better what did blacks fight for then they were beaten for years so that we can be free

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  • Freedom is more important but, order is necessary

    Without order would be chaos. But without freedom we would have revolts and the U.S. would pretty much fall apart. I would post on both sides, but i can't. I'm pretty torn. This is like choosing torture or death. Without order would be torture and without freedom would be death.

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  • These people on the Right have no idea what their talking about.

    If you think having all your freedoms you could ever want with limited security would be amazing, you should just stop talking and log off this site. Your gonna wake up with all your freedoms until some other country comes and takes you over. Now you have no freedom's and at the moment your enslaved or dead.

  • Without security, everyone would be dead.

    If you get rid of security, there would be no laws around security. No laws means that people could go around the streets killing any one they wanted to and harming people. It would be anarchy. 100% freedom would still be limited because you can never be truly 'free'. There will always be obstacles in the way to stop complete freedom. Ergo, ben is gay

  • What is the point on having freedom if we will not be safe to have it?

    My reasoning are as fallows:
    1)Take away your pride and see that we are safe in the little net the government gives us
    2) Lose someone you care about and then tell me freedom is greater than security
    As H.L. Mencken once said “The average man does not want to be free. He simply wants to be safe.”

  • No

    Freedom is worthless if you wake up the slave of another country, or if you never wake up at all but die because you were foolish enough not to do what was needed to be done.

  • Little Point in Freedom If You Are Dead

    I often here this brought up, but the problem is that security is basically designed to ensure that one can practice basic freedoms. If we have no security, then people can harm us when we practice our freedoms. A certain amount of security is necessary for freedom. As such, I consider security marginally more important than freedom, /especially/ since when this argument is brought up, it usually involves a small amount of freedom and a great deal of security. Obviously one must analyze the trade-off closely.

  • Security creates freedom

    Freedom was earned back when the United States of America was created. Therefore, we must keep what we have earned by organizing the nation and keeping its citizens safe. Security ensures a safe freedom that all can enjoy. Take the Middle East for instance. Riots and violence crowd the streets just because of the rights the people cannot obtain. If the Middle East took the time to secure policies and its people,then freedom would be achieved.

  • Give me Liberty.

    A small amount of safety is not worth any amount of a loss of liberty. Remember German history from the 1930's. If you don't remember, read. The liberties and freedoms of the German people were taken small bits at a time in a way that they could agree with having more safety, until, they had neither.

  • In today's society, security has become a very important issue that needs to be attended to, more so than freedom.

    After the serious events of 9/11, we, as a nation, need to realize that we are not immune to attacks on our people. The thousands of people that died in the terrorist attacks could have been avoided, with proper security. It is understandable that this idea should not be taken too far, but it is a priority. As a nation, we do not appear to be well-liked worldwide, even if we attempt to provide international assistance.

    Posted by: KingM0
  • Safety is needed more than freeddom

    Without safety there is no freedom. Freedom comes when people know they are safe. If they feel unsafe, they will not feel free. Would you go out into the world not knowing that atanytime you could be attacked or killed? Safety could detect these things and help us to defeat the fear we have as humans in this contemporary society!

  • How about the kite man on the $100 bill? How about the $2 Independence Man?

    “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
    ― Benjamin Franklin
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    “I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”
    ― Thomas Jefferson


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