The formation of the idea of acceptance relating to a concept is far more damaging than the behavior itself in general. "No children were harmed in the filming of Lolita" is hardly something to take into consideration when realizing what the underlying message actually is.
There's little to no room for misinterpretation here.
The difference between lolicon and video game violence is the degree of separation. Most people will not, can not, and could not get the equipment needed to participate in a GTA-style blood bath. But everyone knows at least one child - a neighbor, some frequent fixture around the park, a cousin, niece or nephew... Kids worked with at or around the job... Etc.
And as shown by at least one comment on the other side... Actual pedophiles are enjoying this. Instead of learning to accept more reasonable targets these individuals are reinforcing their issues. And worst they are immersing themselves in the delusion that their illness is acceptable, because if it weren't then why would there be so much lolicon available?
To put it a different way - Japan has seriously cracked down on lolicon recently because they have 3rd graders with STDs and parents renting out their daughters for sex. And sadly that isn't hyperbole...
Art isn't real, but it can still depict acts that if they were real would be wrong. Nobody in the right mind would believe pedophilia is OK, but art that depicts pedophilia is not pedophilia itself. If someone created art that depicted another wrong act, we would still recognize it as immoral, but we wouldn't prohibit it. The exception here is art that actually involves wrong acts like videos of real people actually engaging in pedophilia.
Since when has pedophilia ever been okay? It doesn't matter if they're fictional, Sexual attraction to children IS pedophilia. I get that people don't control it, But they should be getting help, Not trying to normalize and legitimize it with shit like this. Granted it's not as bad as actually raping children, But "not as bad" and "okay" are FAR from the same thing.
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Lolicon - Sexually attracted to characters of childlike appearance.
Pedophilia - Sexually attracted to human children.
(Note that both are sexually attracted to childlike appearances.)
As long as there is the word "child" there, I'm concerned. Lolicon is just a pathetic attempt to cover up an even more immoral action. It is still immoral.
It’s sad to see the amount of people on the other side. Lolicon is the adherence to a pedophillic mental issue that is being treated through the means that are otherwise criminal. Normalizing child pornography by saying “it’s drawn, it’s art, it’s our freedom of speech” opens the issue into a wide more variety of dangers thoughts and possibly dangerous actions. Whilst yes technically lolicon is safer than real CP, for obvious reasons, both are wrong. Both the drawn and real dipixt defensesless children being abused by an adult, both are equally as evil in the mind. A person getting his rocks off to CP has the same end result and mentality as someone who does lolicon. It’s a mental illness better treated by therapy and not drawn CP!
Absolutely no one is being hurt by the creation or consumption of loli artwork. So I see no reason for it to be bad. There are literally no bad sides. And it is way better than pedophiles raping real, actual children, right? Of course it is. Now, agree with me.
Having drawn kids doing sexual acts is not that bad. It has nothing to do with pedophilia. As a single man, I may indulge in the occasional lolicon pornography but that in it's on case isn't that bad. Just because I want to commit sexual acts against children doesn't mean it's immoral. Morals can differ between but everyone can agree, pedophilia without the act of touching children is perfectly fine in today's society and nothing is wrong it.
Okay, If someone is looking at hentai, 9/10 times they like hentai more than real people. So I look at it, if you want to see loli, go ahead, otherwise Just don't. Why do you think they are looking at "anime" instead of real images? It's different, they are not even near the same.
So if someone drew a stick figure that said "35 year old man and 8 year old stick figure about to engage in sexual activity" is that considered illegal?
Next thing you know, jokes about this will be illegal. These are animated drawings we are talking about. NOT REAL.Talk about a slippery slope.
I do not think it is as immoral as people think. It may be a weird fetish, But for some one who is an actual pedophile, It could help divert their attention from real children, And in a sense protect those children. In some cases I can see how it could cause pedophilia to grow, But I personally feel it could be more beneficial than not, And not all people that like lolicon, Like human children.
Please identify the different between "Lolicon" and "porn manga" and "pedophile". People like girls younger than them, that is just their interest. They don't actually need to draw stuff that is age limited or watch them to become a lolicon. Pedophile? Possibly immortal. Porn manga? Certainly immortal. Lolicon? Maybe not.
(They don't have a neutral option for this question but I'll keep as neutral as possible)
Well, to be honest, that depends, considering, that "lolicon" doesn't necessarily mean the char. Is ACTUALLY underage, they just so happen to look that way (however, most of ths time, said char IS underage and not just look that way), but, considering that Nabokov's Lolita is about a pedophile and a minor, well, I would have to say that, on a note, it is, as "Lolicon" is derived from that, so, the by name and it's origin, it's pretty much implies pedophile, unless said loli char looks and stated to be legal (i.E, legal but retaining some cutesy childish/innocent traits).
Now, while I'm all for 1st Amendment rights and expression, we're gonna have to acknowledge that art and expression can (but not always will) aid in normalizing unacceptable things (being attracted to minors is an unacceptable thing).
Will it trigger unacceptable things occurring to real children/minors or graduate to real CP?
Possibly but, of course, who's to blame? The artist/writer or the pedo? Well, the latter, obviously, as they had their fantasies and so chose to act on them.
Likewise, fairly innocent ("innocent" as in 0 sexual connotations or acts) images of loli-like or anime child characters can trigger much the same feelings and arousal, thus, again artwork cannot be truly blamed.
Do I think its acceptable?
No, not really, because, well, the idea that one would like to do disgusting things to a child, fictional or not, is sickening, however, one cannot be prosecuted for their thoughts or fantasies unless they act on them, in which case, the line between thinking and doing has been crossed, leaving no room to turn back.
Should it be illegal?
Well, technically, lolicon already is, under federal law in the States, as, according to the federal law in regards to CP, the minors present and the acts don't really have to be REAL and it can go under "simulated".
However, this varies from state to state and people have been prosecuted under one statute or another for having it (except one dude and he had more than lolicon, as, along with that, he had actual CP so he got prison).
I do not think so. Every one has their fetish. Some people have unhealthy fetishes. That is fine by me. Lolicon does not incorporate real children in the art, it is only artist depictions. If one finds that attractive, I am okay with that. So long as it does not move its way into real children. It is like video game violence. It is okay if you like to shoot people in a game. Doesn't mean you are going to go shoot up a school. Research shows that it is extremely unlikely that a gamer would not do that, no matter the age. Why can't this be the same for Lolicon and Shotacon? It is. Just because you fantasize about little anime children, does not mean you would go out and rape children.