• Good with God

    Modern religions may take their stances on morality, but they aren't wrong stances. People look to religion for guidance and moral foundations, and they usually find that. Religion teaches us to treat others fairly, and to respect others. It holds people up to higher standards and provide us with a guide to live our lives in a decent, honest, and moral way. In fact, even atheist and agnostic morals come from Judeo-Christian teachings. Religion was the first place to find morality and it still is the best place to find it.

  • A foundation. But even foundations have foundations.

    Religion gives the groundwork for moralities that emerged afterwards. People can use religion as a direct base for their morality by taking up moral commands like 'Do not covet thy neighbour's wife' or whatever, but at the same time, people can use religion as a direct base for their morality by railing *against* what morality religion commands - such as coveting your neighbour's wife *because* she's your neighbour's wife (because religion told you not to).
    Morality can emerge from religion either by being in line with what religion might say, or by looking at religious morality and thinking 'that's crap, let's try something different'.
    Besides, morality was around before religion and will be after religion.
    Morality was around in Greece without being too connected with ancient Greek gods.

  • Yeah for a lot of people

    Calm down guys. It doesnt aay its the only foundation for morality. Its just one foundation of morality. And you can build in a foundation. You can build a beutiful castle or a torture chamber. Peoplemay for example center their morality around Christianity but they can be good or bad people, just like an athiest can be a good or a bad person.

  • Yes but only corrupt morality

    Try to think of one ethical statement made, or one ethical action performed, by a believer that could not have been uttered or done by a nonbeliever. You can't. And here is my second challenge. Can any reader of this think of a wicked statement made, or an evil action performed, precisely because of religious faith. You will be able to think of some straight away.

    Posted by: hect
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  • Good without God

    Modern monotheistic religions (Christianity, Islam and Judaism) take an absolute view on morality. They define right and wrong by the rules set by their gods and as interpreted by religious leaders within that faith. Many people look to religion as a foundation of morality, but that does not necessarily mean the two are intertwined. Morality is doing what is right regardless of what we are told.

  • Just read this.

    She lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. Ezekiel 23:20 NIV

    When men fight with one another, and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off her hand. Deuteronomy 25:11-12

    Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves. Numbers 31:17-18

    Whosoever … hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookback, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken … He shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries. Leviticus 21:17-23 KJV

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  • Us or them.

    If you look at every culture around the world, you can see everyone has similar morals. In a way, they are the same morals but applied to others based on who we see are inside/outside our groups. Those within our groups are people we care about and provide something we feel we need. Those outside our groups are those who we feel are taking away something our group needs.
    I can demonstrate this "same morals" by asking everyone a simple question. Do you want those you care about killed or harmed? I would guess that everyone would say "No" This is because we instinctively know you should not kill those within your closest group. For those outside our group, the moral either applies less or the opposite rule applies.
    Religion just puts what we already know in writing. Example: "Thou shalt not kill" Clearly the people who wrote the scriptures knew it before writing it down so they already knew it was wrong to kill those in our group. To demonstrate how they applied the opposite rule, if you read further you can see many cases that state how people should be killed for various reasons, basically for opposing their group.
    Just about every religion has some version of this and in fact, people without a religion also have this instinct. Clearly it is not religion but instincts that are the foundation of morality.
    The reason why it looks like we have different morals is because we each apply moral value to different groups of people. Look at slavery. It was a long held belief that people of other races were less human therefore not part of our group, so the same rules did not apply to them. In contrast, look at those who fight for animal rights. Even though they are not human, they consider animal part of their group so should be treated with more humanity. People who are pro-abortion don't see an undeveloped fetus as being a person but anti-abortionist do. It is not a persons morals that differ just who they see as their group.

  • Morality is an evolutionary adaptation

    A sense of generally agreed upon morality is what holds societies together. Without that, no society could exist. All herd animals, including humans have some degree of innate morality or the herd (society) would fall apart. Elephants, orcas, prairie dogs, wolves, for example, show varying degrees of altruistic behavior or what, in humans, would be called moral acts. It's an evolutionary survival response that enabled those species to reproduce and survive. Religion didn't invent it.

  • Religion presupposes morality; not the other way round.

    It is a given that there are many people who do not found their morals on religion for they are not religious. And I personally find that ethics should be based of reason and circumstances not unwavering rules. However, what is interesting is religious people and whether they based their morality on their religion. The answer is that they don't. More rather, they have their morality first and their religion second. This means that they find aspects of their religion that appeal to them and use it to show that their religion can be a basis for morality. This is known as confirmation bias. Usually, a heavy influence in one's morality is their culture. Their culture has certain moral standards which influence their moral standards. And if their religion was cultivated in the same culture, then it is easy for them to find aspects of that religion that appeal to them. What is really interesting is when a religion like Christianity, which is cultivated in one culture, is dominant in a very different culture which holds values contradictory to the religion.

  • Even though it TRIES to teach morality...

    It really doesn't. It teaches that you should kill those that don't agree with you. That a loving deity will send you to a place of torture if you don't think it's real. Noah's arc: A perfect bedtime story depicting genocide of all living things on Earth by a "loving" deity. That Abraham should kill his son, and he actually want and tried to go through with it(according to the writings). It's not morality, it's utter fear. (Actually, it's "male bos taurus" feces, but you get my point)

  • Reason is the foundation for morality. Reason always suffers for belief.

    Religionists claim that their beliefs are necessary in order to establish morality. Religious leaders presume themselves to be the arbiters and guardians of morality. However those that indulge in beliefs without justification are often the very ones prone to an inadequate sense of morality. If beliefs are not based on evidence, anything can be justified. Justice delayed to an unknown after-life is justice denied. All religions require faith. But faith is nothing more than an appeal to belief without evidence and to action based on unfounded assertions. Rather than being necessary for morality. Religion provides opportunity for immorality. Religion’s claim to morality is false. To make a false claim is immoral. Religion is inherently immoral. The more you know the less you believe.

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