• How the Jesus Myth was created

    Other than the Bible, the evidence about Jesus’s existence is sparse; and, the evidence about his crucifixion and resurrection even sparser.
    The bottom line is “faith.” If you believe in God and the Bible, then it happened exactly like it says in one of the many different Bibles and versions.
    If you don’t have the “faith,” you know that no one can be clinically dead for 3 days and 3 nights and come back to life. You know that all religions are based on superstitious dogma that can’t be proven, e.g., God, Heaven, Hades, Angels, Devil and miracles.
    Many Christians and religious scholars like to say that the some on the ancient writings of the 1st Century make reference to Jesus, e.g. “the writings of the 1st century Romano-Jewish historian Flavius Josephus include references to Jesus and the origins of Christianity. Josephus' Antiquities of the Jews, written around 93–94 AD, includes two references to Jesus in Books 18 and 20.”
    The big problem with all of these writings is that they were written in AD, almost 100 years after the alleged events. There is no way to know if Flavius Josephus was using the Bible and other Jewish writings as his source of information. He was a very religious Jewish man who may have been a descendent of the “of the High Priest Jonathon. Jonathon. That is why his writings are considered a Hagiography”
    “A hagiography is writing on the subject of holy people;” it is not a historical factual recording of history. The Bible is a hagiography.
    The ancient Roman Empire lasted almost 1,500 years. The Romans kept tomes of records on rolls of papyrus or scrolls. The record keepers in the Roman Empire had no reason to recopy any written records once they had been created. They were filed away in rooms, and eventually they decayed and fell apart or were destroyed, many due to humidity and heat. Whatever Roman Empire documents that have survived make no reference to Jesus.
    The only evidence that Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected is in the New Testament of the Bible (e.g., Luke 24:1-53). And, the Bible is not a historical document.
    “People frequently ask if any record has been preserved of the report which, it is presumed, Pontius Pilate, prefect of Judea, sent to Rome concerning the trial and execution of Jesus of Nazareth. The answer is none. But let it be added at once that no official record has been preserved of any report which Pontius Pilate, or any other Roman governor of Judea, sent to Rome about anything. And only rarely has an official report from any governor of any Roman province survived. They may have sent in their reports regularly, but for the most part these reports were ephemeral (short-lived) documents, and in due course they disappeared.”
    Bottom line, it takes Faith to believe this superstitious nonsense!

  • I believe so

    Jesus may have been a real person, but most of the sources that claim he is real are unreliable. It's almost like saying Merlin was a real person, just not a wizard. There were Christians in the early current era, which may mean there was a Jesus and all, but the evidence is shaky.

  • Historians Have Already Proved This!

    Historians have already proved this fact in many arguments just like this. Google it if you want to see. These people who wrote the books of the Bible have had a lot of pressure on this topic and it is extremely hard for one person to keep a secret/lie from other people, let alone a whole group of people. If you want to test me, go ahead! But, I have my facts in order. Try me, skeptics!

  • Jesus was not crucified

    Enough logic has been stated about the myth of cruciFICTION. I tend to agree with what Quran says. Jesus was neither killed nor crucified. God took him up and made the whole incident doubtful. God did not want His Messenger to be tortured and humiliated by the wicked Romans and Jews scholars who considered themselves condemned by Jesus for being hypocrats.

  • It is unlikely

    No religion makes sense. The bible and other religion was written as a way to conduct yourself in society. There is a moral story to al religions but that is about as good as it gets. It is just a story as a guideline to how you should live but that is as good as it gets.

  • It is unlikely

    No religion makes sense. The bible and other religion was written as a way to conduct yourself in society. There is a moral story to al religions but that is about as good as it gets. It is just a story as a guideline to how you should live but that is as good as it gets.

  • Jesus of history by teasing out of various historical documents

    The first is in the crucifixion itself. When a person was crucified they did not die quickly, but rather a slow painful, morbid death which would have taken two to three days, possibly even a week. Jesus supposedly died within two to three hours.

    Joseph of Arimethea went to Pilot and asked to have the body of Jesus, which was contrary to Roman law anyway, and when Pilot heard that Jesus was already dead, he was so surprised to hear that Jesus had died so quickly that he sent a centurion to check.

    The second oddity is that the crucifixion took place in what seemed to be a private garden and tomb owned by Joseph of Arimethea. The importance of this observation is that if there was any fraudulence associated with the crucifixion, then the public could be kept away in a private garden and Jesus could be privately taken away, revived, tendered and ministered to.

  • So where did this momentous event happen ?

    If we consider Biblical references, Jesus was placed into a rock cut tomb and reappear three days later. However, the exact location of this miraculous event seems to be lost to history. A few people say it is in the location of the Holy Church of the Sepulcher, though many scholars doubt this. At least one tourist attraction claims to have the actual site, but again, no one in the academic or historical fields seem impressed. Consider this: With all the superstition and mythology that was so evident in the 1st century, had someone actually returned from the dead, then everyone would soon know about it, and they would be flocking to the site of this most miraculous event. Wealthy people would be paying gold to be buried there with hopes that they too would arise. Such an important place would be enshrined, but instead, no one knows to this day for certain where this event happened. And no one in the early centuries seems to know either. I find this interesting.

  • A Barbaric Act to appease "sin"

    God is a monster. The fact that he became "incarnate" in a "Son" is preposterous. The most disgusting "doctrine" of the Christian religion is that this "God" died on a cross for the "sins" of humans, past, present, and future. What kind of a God would do something so odious? Such a God does not deserve worship, much less belief. The crucifixion is entirely fabricated by illiterate scribes who do not know their right from their left. Also, there is no historical evidence that such an "event" occurred.

  • Dependent on your beliefs

    The crucifixion of Jesus is based on religious beliefs and some records. Some have offered up proof that Jesus did exist and was in fact killed. So in the end it comes down the individual and what he or she believes. I do believe that it is real, but this is only my opinion.

  • Of course His existence is real

    Nearly all historians of Jesus with Ph.D.S in the appropriate matter are certain Jesus existed. There is more evidence for Him than Josephus. The Christ Myth Theory is considered thoroughly debunked. They found records of Him kept within a year of His life, which is astounding proof. This is not a matter of debate among scholars; it is almost universally accepted that Jesus existed. There are works that go against Christianity that tells us Jesus existed. Before His time, it wasn't even a school of thought that the Messiah would be like Jesus, but a very violent, invincible person. Many of the apostles were martyred. Would you be killed for a lie you started? Also, opinionated evidence is still evidence.

  • The death of Jesus is in both Roman and Muslim texts.

    The Roman's have full text of the event, as was custom for their time. The event was so well recorded and with so many eyewitnesses later writing about it, even Muslims centuries later believe in the Christian savior's death, even if they don't accept the idea of him as God. Jews and historians also fully accept it. It's so well recorded that only a hyper-atheist could truly disagree with it.

  • Jesus died. There is ample evidence for that.

    All of the secular ancient writers agree that Jesus died. Pontius Pilate existed. Crucifixion of blasphemer's existed at the time. The New Testament has so much evidence in its favor that you must believe that it is true! Jesus was crucified. Even a lot of modern scholars believe that. It is just a matter of whether He rose from the dead.

  • The crucifixion of Jesus is not a myth.

    No, the crucifixion of Jesus is not a myth. Crucifixion was a common method of execution in Jesus' time. Historians have proved almost without a doubt that Jesus was a real person and was crucified, whether or not you believe he did any of the other things that have been professed. They know where he was crucified, by whom, and have even speculated on where he was laid to rest.

  • It is real history, but not as you know it.

    The book, "King Jesus", proposes that the gospel story is semi-mythical: it was based upon real events, but subsequently embellished and fictionalised by the gospel authors and editors. The proposed foundation for this semi-mythical gospel story is the history of King Izates of Adiabene, who Josephus Flavius claims was the leader the Jewish Revolt. Apparently, Josephus also calls this monarch, King Izas.

    But the interesting thing to note, is that King Izas was crucified after the Jewish Revolt alongside two others. But was saved by Josephus (of Arimathaea?) and survived. This is what Josephus Flavius says, in his book "Life".

    This was followed in 2012 by a sequel, "Jesus, King of Edessa". This work follows the same reasoning, but attempts to further explore and refine the historical evidence for Josephus' otherwise semi-mythical monarch, King Izas. The result is a claim that Adiabene is actually a reference to Edessa in Mesopotamia; and therefore King Izas must be King Manu VI of Edessa. So the Edessan king was called King Izas Manu, while Jesus was called King Jesus (Em) Manu-el.

    In addition, Ralph claims that the traditional crown** of the Edessan monarchs is a plaited crown of thorns, and therefore similar to the gospel description.


  • No. This is the most agreed upon aspect of his life according to scholars

    The fact that Jesus of Nazareth was crucified is one of the few details that virtually all reliable scholars agree on. Even those that disagree with his teachings or religion are in agreement that he was executed by crucifixion, and that alone gives it a degree of clout similar to most other historical events.

    Posted by: TN05
  • It really happened

    The crucifixion of Jesus is the more historically certain thing we know about him. It would be the mother of all embarrassments if it didn't really happen. Given the meaning of what the messiah was, nobody who wanted to promote the idea that Jesus was the messiah would make up a story with him being crucified because that would prove that he was NOT the messiah. If somebody wants to invent a religion and actually get people to believe it, they don't include in their story a proof that their story is false.

  • Shroud of Turin

    The Shroud of Turin is a physical manifestation of the crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth. Something spectacular happened back in the day and the Shroud is testimony to this event. The carbon-14 dating purporting to show a medieval age for the Shroud was flawed. Other aspects of the Shroud prove its authenticity. I am a scientist and my initial skepticism about the Shroud has been overcome by the evidence. That's what scientists do, right? Weigh the evidence.

  • examine the evidence

    Though it may be impossible to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, all one needs to do is examine the evidence. Rather than wanting some sure fire proof, if people actually examined the evidence which is available, they may come to the conclusion that the probability of this event occurring far outweighs the possibility that it was a made up story. As I said, we may never have concrete proof so we must side where the evidence weighs heaviest.

  • The crucifixion of Jesus, is still being practiced today.

    The history of the evilness and the total indifference for human life by the Romans in that era,would make it possible that punishment meted out to Jesus and many followers,were crucifixion,beheading,impalement and any other cruel form of punishment that crossed their primitive little minds, Crucifixion of Jesus, is still being practiced today.Cut off the head,kill the snake.

Leave a comment...
(Maximum 900 words)
No comments yet.