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  • Sadly, it still is.

    Women make up over half the American population, yet have less than 20 percent representation in Congress. Our female leaders and politicians are still judged on how they look and what they are wearing and not their policies. Female CEOs are a rarity and immediately judged for whether they have children, and if they do whether they can be good mothers and have a high position at the same time. No one does this to male politicians and CEOs.
    Women are still paid 20% less than men for the same job. Women still experience a shockingly high rate of domestic violence and rape. Women are seeing an increasing rate of male politicians trying to regulate their health care and their bodies.

  • How could anyone say no, just look around, patriarchy is EVERYWHERE.

    Many may think that patriarchy only existed a long time ago, in the times where women were seen as property, where they were sold and traded as commodities, where things such as foot binding existed, but the truth is patriarchy is still alive and well in today’s society. Today, patriarchy has manifested its casual ways into society, tending to go unnoticed by the majority.
    Patriarchy is a social system that values masculinity over femininity and dictates that men are entitled to be in charge and dominate woman. Patriarchy is reflected in pay gaps, in the workplace, in parenting, and in education.
    If you are saying no, have you freaking even looked at the people of Islam and women in the Middle East in general. Women in the Middle East and in Africa have so little rights while the men control everything in their lives. I mean sure one could say there isn't a ton of patriarchy in the United States, but some one must be straight out dumb if they believe there is none ANYWHERE. Just look around.
    In early Islam, the Quran stated that men and women were considered spiritually equal, while also providing a mix of rights, restrictions, and protections for women. Earlier, women were given control over their properties, marraige was considered a contract between two consenting parties, and women could sue for divorce, but as Islamic civilization flourished culturally and economy growing restrictions were set upon women. Originally women could pray in mosques, although they separate from the men, not veiled or secluded, but as the empire grew so did the limitations on women. Now veiling and seclusion became a standard practice within the elite. Women faced multiple restrictions and harm due to the overwhelming patriarchal limitations.
    We still see veiling and seclusion in everyday life in the Islamic culture. Don't get me wrong I like the religion of Islam and believe it is beautiful and unique, but there is for sure patriarchy there.
    Now lets talk about the U.S.
    Men in the NBA make an average of 4.9 million while woman make an average of 107,000, in women’s soccer if there is an exhibition game and the women win, they make $1,350 and if the men’s team suffers a loss in a friendly, each player still receives $5,000.
    Most of us are aware of the obvious ways in which patriarchy plays out in the workplace: women make 77 cents to every man's dollar nad occupy 15% of upper management positions and less than 4% of CEO positions
    SO THERE YOU HAVE IT! PATRIARCHY EXISTS AND THRIVES. Try and question that...

  • Monstrous reign prevailing

    Takin the major decisions of concieving a baby or aborting it though is a mutual decision but the fact of it being a reason of emotional attachement or emotional enforcement is something real private to a woman ..
    Cases of women being made pregnant is something none of us is unaware of .. Rape victim should be treated with real caution instead of being left to wander on the roads .. A place where beating is the way a rape victim is treated .. Itz not even patriarchal but monstrous society's reign .. I have a valid reason and also evidence to my words
    http://www.Ipsnews.Net/2012/08/pregnant-nicaraguan-girls-forced-to-become-mothers/

  • It does, but not to the great extent as it was years of old.

    I do not think our society is an absolute patriarchy. Women have the right to vote, buy land, get jobs and so forth. However, a few traditions still remain. One I can think of in particular is the fact that women and children usually take/get their father/husband's last name. This is clearly showing the patriarchal part of our society (western society). Again, I must say that, for the most part, our society is equal.

  • Yes yes a million times yes

    First and foremost, patriarchy is a social system in which males have political, social, and economic power and influence. Patriarchy does NOT mean that all men have power and that all women do not. This means that the people who have comprised our leaders and shaped our society have been men, and that they have shaped our society to suit the needs of men. The thing is, patriarchy is not beneficial to ANYONE aside from the men who have power. That's right! Men can be and are affected negatively by patriarchy as well. Patriarchal gender roles are something that inhibit everyone because they place people into boxes and assert that if you don't fit into these boxes you don't belong. However, the reason women have a huge disadvantage is that gender roles assigned to women are those that put them in a submissive position - one that is easy to control. Now, no one is trying to argue that men and women are exactly the same physically and biologically and, in fact, these gender roles and the patriarchal power structure most likely arose from these biological differences. Men naturally have more testosterone which allows more muscle gain, which allows for more physical power. Men, being the generally stronger of the sexes could easily control women through violence (or fear of violence) A women doesn't want to mate? Hit her. And thus patriarchy began.
    Men were given a privilege (strength) and they abused it.
    Patriarchy is so deep inside our culture it's difficult to see sometimes. Especially if you have the privilege not to. It's true women have gained many rights in the past 100 years (in the USA, anyway) like the ability to vote and work. That's great! But why do we still try and pass hundreds of laws every year regulating women's bodies while we have absolutely none for men? Why does our media focus more on what women are wearing than what they're saying? Even the most powerful women in the world - women's bodies are constantly under the scrutiny of EVERYONE. Less than 16% of mainstream films have a female protagonist. I wonder why? Is it because for every 15 male directors there is only one female? (And this is certainly not because they don't want the jobs, Stefanie Meyer the creator of the insanely popular Twilight series was rejected repeatedly to direct films due to her gender) Why do we regulate the way girls dress in schools because boys might be distracted by them? Wouldn't it make more sense to teach boys not to objectify women? Or to rape? 99% of rape is committed by men. But rape is somehow a WOMEN's issue?
    I could go on and on all day guys. The patriarchy is alive and well and it lives inside us all.

  • Surnames are a clue

    Most anglophone countries inherit their surname from the father. Often subtle examples of patriarchy hide in plain sight as 'common practice'. While this example may not be a devastating case of injustice, it provides a clue to a deeper problem. Many people think we live in an 'equal' society and use this as a reason to reject feminist action. This is because they don't see the underlying patriarchy. Always take a step back and unpack the society you live in.

  • Without a doubt.

    Today's society is extremely patriarchal, and though strides have been made legally to insure that women are treated fairly, those are shots in the dark. Men still get paid more, they are not expected to assume responsibilities that have been traditionally women's, even though women's roles have expanded and needed to expand in order to secure the family's economy.

  • The patriarchy exists!

    While women are no longer oppressed legalistically (for example they now have the vote, equal pay and rights to their children in the event of a divorce). However this does not mean that women are in anyway truly equal, if you look at the m/f ratio for judges in England & Wales it is 77% : 23%, while in Scotland 79% : 21%.
    Other examples can be drawn such as women in parliament (~33% with many in marginal seats), and the disempowerment of women in Science and postgraduate studies.

    In deference to figures it is apparent that society is not quite as equal as the member opposite supposes because of the legalistic freedoms that we all enjoy, as clearly women are restricted in the job market and higher education as well as being less electable.

    The cause for this is the "patriarchy" - the social conditioning of society to recognise “gender roles”. Gender roles are simply the idea that men and women have different purposes in society, men have to be strong and protect/provide for women/children while women should care for children and look attractive for men. This indoctrination starts when a child is given either a doll or a gun/hammer to play with, indeed this indoctrination has been going on since ~3000BC.

    It was also clearly apparent in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries where married women were regarded as the dependant of the man and had no legal status of their own. The contemporary philosopher John Stuart Milne described women as “the bondservant of her husband, no less so, as far as the legal obligation goes a slaves”. Women were barred from apprentices and hence were employed in agriculture, domestic service or textiles indeed in 1841 these three industries accounted for 90% of the female labour force, while men were employed as overseers, or as hard labours.

    The women’s suffrage movement brushed away legal obstacles to skilled jobs and education, however women are prevented from serving in the military frontlines. Why? Because “mixed gender groups wouldn’t work as effectively”, clearly viewing women as seductresses. Other stereotypes (stemming from gender roles), prevent women from attaining political office. Women who are strong willed and argue aggressively in public are lampooned by the media as bitches (example Margret Thatcher), women are often seen as weak and less decisive meaning that women are less likely to be elected to political office.

  • Yes, today's society is patriarchal. Males clearly still dominate society.

    There is an absolutely huge proportion of men that rule the world to women. Much of our legislation, even today, is based on dominance versus submission, and favoring "masculinity". Feminine traits are still viewed to be weak and unfavorable. Even today, all over the world, women are considered second class sub-humans.

  • This is it

    Society is changing, That is the obvious part, But the changes are not the obvious part. Women are having to worry whether a man is going to judge her by her looks, They way she dresses, And the way she presents herself. Because this is a mans world, Woman have to change, But why? Why must a woman change what she wears because a man tells her she is showing to much, Or she is a whore because she shows her emotions by the way she dresses.
    Women are being oppressed by men because men cannot control what they think. Men are the predators of society, And woman are the prey. A man can say one woman is showing to much skin and she must cover herself because he cannot control his own urges, But why must woman change? Why can a man not change his own urges to suit society, Because society has become expression and fashion. Fashion and expression go hand in hand, Because without expression fashion does not show anything, But without fashion expression becomes harder. Women have so few rights compared to men. Because men see themselves as superior and cannot get over their own thoughts.
    Men, Men are monsters, Because they judge, Women are the ones men judge the most, Because if a woman talks freely she is seen as worthless, Because a woman's opinion does not hold the same weight as a mans. Because men are monsters, And monsters have grown fond of a man's power over a woman. The word rape culture shines an image in my mind. Because men cannot contain their own urges they believe that women are property and they do not deserve to be treated as equals, They do not deserve to be treated as the people they are.
    When men cannot change women must. The word female, If you break it down into two parts you get fe and male, FE is the chemical abbreviation of iron, And male means man, And women have seen this and the term Iron Man has come out. It seems funny but its a literal term, Because men are just males, They should hold no meaning in society. If we flip the oppression, Would a woman change her ways for a male, Or would it be different?
    As society has progressed it has also regressed. Women had little to no rights during the 20th century, But it's the 21st century, Why is this a topic again? Its a topic again because men are regressing into what they were during the 20th century. Women were meant to stay at home and clean, And cook, And watch the children, As the man would go out and work and provide for his family, And decisions were made by the man and the man alone. Woman did not have the right to vote, To hold political seat, Or to represent a family in a conversation.

  • Evidence Suggests Otherwise

    The argument about the gender wage gap is not backed by fact, but by what the present day media want you to believe. The gender wage gap is an aggregate of all of the women and men in the same job, then their wages are averaged. The problem with this is that according to Warren Farrell, author of "Why men earn more", there are 25 different choices that women and men make that can impact the amount they earn. He went and studied all of the statistics and found these facts out.

    The choices include whether to start a family, the fact that women do not on average work as many hours as men, the fact that women want to make different life choices than males.

    There is actually a lot of things that are flipping in women's favor, the graduation rate from every university is approximately 60% Female, Women are 2 times more likely to get accepted into the stem fields now because of the increasing talk about the low percentages of women in these fields. But overall, women don't want to be doing stem subjects, that is why they don't choose them.

    These facts are not controversial though, they are backed by hard statistics, and you can look them up to see for yourselves. As for the Muslim Women Debate, the perspective that we are placing on that is a western one, and that is one of total equality, and while there are some bad things happening to those women, there are a lot of fundamental beliefs that are thousands of years old that they are living by, and we cant try to oppress our different cultural standards on these people and think we are saying and doing the right things.

    Women are also not the only victims of domestic violence, with over 40% of the victims actually male, but the problem with being a male that has been abused, there have been numerous cases of police officers just laughing at them when they try to report it. And the rates of Lesbian Domestic violence and rape are far worse, with over 43.8% of lesbian women in a phone survey in 2010 claimed to have been sexually assaulted, and %67.8 of them being their partners.

    Womens rights was a great movement in the earlier stages, to change the culture of the western world. But threatening to rise up and to take control is not going to promote "equality" it will promote "female dominance" and that is what modern feminism is. A great description of the gender wage gap can be seen in the interview with Jordan B Peterson and Cathy Newman. It can also be seen on a channel called "the factual Feminist" with Christina Hoff-Somers.

    I'm not saying that the world cant be patriachal, but I believe that there are far more reasonable things to be worrying about.

  • Today's society is not true absoulote patriarchal.

    Todays society is not patriarchal Firstly, just because there are variations in what men and women decide to choose in life does not mean that patriarchy must exist. There are significantly more female secretaries and teachers than men, but no one would think of using this as evidence for matriarchy, it is just a choice that women are more likely to take. Careers like judges and work in the sciences more often than not require full time work and it has been statistically proven that women are far more likely to work part time for a variety of factors. Just because you give women the same opportunities as men does not mean that you will see the same outcome from these choices.One argument often brought up is that Women on average earn significantly less than men. I do not think that patriarchy has anything to do with that nor that the feminism movement will have any lasting effect on that. If women really earned less for the EXACT same jobs do you not think that greedy corporations would catch onto that? It is not a cause of patriarchy in society, it is more complex than that with other factors being involved. For example 93% of fatal injuries in the work place, 93%, are afflicted towards men. What does that tell you? Men will put in more effort, take more dangerous jobs up, and on the whole work longer hours. One of Patriarchy's key ideologies is that women are the subordinates of men. This is just plain untrue and to be blunt is just a load of BS. If men are oppressive of women in our society today we have done a pretty bad job. Considering that women do 40% longer prison sentences for the exact same crime in the exact same circumstances as men. Considering that women have far more custody and child rights. Considering that domestic violence towards men by women is laughed at and ridiculed instead of being taken seriously and vice versa it is spoken out against, and a public outrage often follows. In fact domestic violence towards men is just below that of domestic violence towards women.

  • Patriarchy In Today's World

    There is nothing wrong with patriarchy men in women have different strengths we are equal and treated that way. Just because fewer women have leading jobs and roles does not mean males control society. It is ridiculous to think so men and women just are more prominent in different aspects of society.

  • This is a dumb

    Misleading question. Of course we live in a patriarchy, and for the life of me I can not figure out what is wrong with that. Please give me any point in history were a matriarchy has been successful. If people really wanted a matriarchy, the percentage of garagepersons who are male would not be over 90%.

  • This is a very delicate subject and I wish to being this with one question. What is wrong with Patriarchy?

    Lets be serious here guys and gals what's is wrong with a patriarchy. I don't mean to offend anyone by this question but seriously if It's good men making wise decisions then why can't we be cool with it. It seems people, including Feminists, only care about one thing these days and that is power. They claim they fight for equality when they'll do anything for their careers. Thank you for hearing me and God bless both men and women.

  • No the patriarchy does not exist in the western world

    Yes previously there was definitely a patriarchal society in the western world however it is no longer something that exists. Men and women both have aspects in certain areas that make them better or worse at it. Also there are aspects of society that benefit either sex, legal systems are heavily in favour of women while the higher positions in business are skewed towards men. In the end it balances out a equal society just with a sort of tit for tat way. The issue is that feminism isn't equipped to deal with real patriarchal society's. All they really do now is complain about things that both sexes deal with but only admit one sex ( female) is affected by it. They think only women get told they need to look a certain way while men do as well. The only difference is that men don't complain when they see it. Mostly because men internalise their problems which leads to another point. Women have much more places to turn to for aid when things get rough for them. They are encouraged to express their problems while men a constantly told to internalise it and to not seek help. Double standards for men are everywhere and feminists simply ignore the problems faced by men.

  • No the patriarchy does not exist in the western world

    Yes previously there was definitely a patriarchal society in the western world however it is no longer something that exists. Men and women both have aspects in certain areas that make them better or worse at it. Also there are aspects of society that benefit either sex, legal systems are heavily in favour of women while the higher positions in business are skewed towards men. In the end it balances out a equal society just with a sort of tit for tat way. The issue is that feminism isn't equipped to deal with real patriarchal society's. All they really do now is complain about things that both sexes deal with but only admit one sex ( female) is affected by it. They think only women get told they need to look a certain way while men do as well. The only difference is that men don't complain when they see it. Mostly because men internalise their problems which leads to another point. Women have much more places to turn to for aid when things get rough for them. They are encouraged to express their problems while men a constantly told to internalise it and to not seek help. Double standards for men are everywhere and feminists simply ignore the problems faced by men.

  • There's no patriarchy anymore

    Maybe there was at one point, but in 2014 men and women are completely legally equal. Of course there's those dicks out there who are sexest and racist and all that but if you're being treated unfairly just because you're a women you can take it to court and win, becasue gender based discrimination is not supported in our society.

  • Patriarchy does not exist at least in the western world,

    Many people on here are going into depth about history from thousands of years ago. That argument is irrelevant for a number of reasons. The idea that the society of today is patriarchal has not really gt anything to do with Victorian society and values.

    One argument often brought up is that Women on average earn significantly less than men. I do not think that patriarchy has anything to do with that nor that the feminism movement will have any lasting effect on that. If women really earned less for the EXACT same jobs do you not think that greedy corporations would catch onto that? It is not a cause of patriarchy in society, it is more complex than that with other factors being involved. For example 93% of fatal injuries in the work place, 93%, are afflicted towards men. What does that tell you? Men will put in more effort, take more dangerous jobs up, and on the whole work longer hours. For example substantially more men work overtime and, on average men have to pay 60% of the bills in most households. This is one of the reasons that men earn more money, they work longer hours in more challenging jobs and society expects them to work while women are not expected to do so. The reason that female CEOs are a rarity is due to the fact that they put in less hours and overtime than men and have babies, which could effect their career whereas men do not so such large career ending commitments. That sucks yes but that is not patriarchy that is just the way life works, if you have to take 2 years off or whatever to care for a child your career advancement is going to halt, as people are going to fill your role and you are not going to be working. In addition surnames being continued through the male line is not the product of patriarchal society but the way culture has developed over the past few thousand years, and it is not really men trying to oppress women but the way human culture has evolved over the centuries, rather than a patriarchal society.

    One of Patriarchy's key ideologies is that women are the subordinates of men. This is just plain untrue and to be blunt is just a load of BS. If men are oppressive of women in our society today we have done a pretty bad job. Considering that women do 40% longer prison sentences for the exact same crime in the exact same circumstances as men. Considering that women have far more custody and child rights. Considering that domestic violence towards men by women is laughed at and ridiculed instead of being taken seriously and vice versa it is spoken out against, and a public outrage often follows. In fact domestic violence towards men is just below that of domestic violence towards women.

  • Patriarchy does not exist at least in the western world,

    Many people on here are going into depth about history from thousands of years ago. That argument is irrelevant for a number of reasons. The idea that the society of today is patriarchal has not really gt anything to do with Victorian society and values.

    One argument often brought up is that Women on average earn significantly less than men. I do not think that patriarchy has anything to do with that nor that the feminism movement will have any lasting effect on that. If women really earned less for the EXACT same jobs do you not think that greedy corporations would catch onto that? It is not a cause of patriarchy in society, it is more complex than that with other factors being involved. For example 93% of fatal injuries in the work place, 93%, are afflicted towards men. What does that tell you? Men will put in more effort, take more dangerous jobs up, and on the whole work longer hours. For example substantially more men work overtime and, on average men have to pay 60% of the bills in most households. This is one of the reasons that men earn more money, they work longer hours in more challenging jobs and society expects them to work while women are not expected to do so. The reason that female CEOs are a rarity is due to the fact that they put in less hours and overtime than men and have babies, which could effect their career whereas men do not so such large career ending commitments. That sucks yes but that is not patriarchy that is just the way life works, if you have to take 2 years off or whatever to care for a child your career advancement is going to halt, as people are going to fill your role and you are not going to be working. In addition surnames being continued through the male line is not the product of patriarchal society but the way culture has developed over the past few thousand years, and it is not really men trying to oppress women but the way human culture has evolved over the centuries, rather than a patriarchal society.

    One of Patriarchy's key ideologies is that women are the subordinates of men. This is just plain untrue and to be blunt is just a load of BS. If men are oppressive of women in our society today we have done a pretty bad job. Considering that women do 40% longer prison sentences for the exact same crime in the exact same circumstances as men. Considering that women have far more custody and child rights. Considering that domestic violence towards men by women is laughed at and ridiculed instead of being taken seriously and vice versa it is spoken out against, and a public outrage often follows. In fact domestic violence towards men is just below that of domestic violence towards women.


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