Conservative values entail forcing rape victims to give birth to the rapist's child if she conceived. Conservative values entail banning love between same-sex or interracial couples. Conservatism entails thinking trans people are degenerate. Conservatism entails spitting on the lives black victims of police brutality in an attempt to justify it. "George Floyd was no angel" Guess what? That doesn't matter because under our legal system, You have a right to a trial by jury. You don't get to kill someone for past or current criminal offenses if they aren't a threat to your life. This is doubly true for the Breona Taylor case. When conservatives get word of a black death at the hands of police, They ask "Did the cops say the N word? No? Yes! That means we get to obfuscate matters in an attempt to let the cop go free and make the murder seem justified.
"Are black schools and communities underfunded? Just move, Bro! " Are you homeless? Just buy a house, Bro! " <<< To give you an idea of the stupidity of conservative logic.
The culture in the United States has continuously moved to the left for at least the last 300 years. I base this off on a multitude of issues that at one time were clearly held by the progressive side of the political landscape and opposed by conservatives. All those issues are now supported by the mainstream establishment. And over time conservatives came to support all but the newest ones.
Some notable examples:
-Expansion of voting rights
Some of those things are what today's conservative look as part of their core values. For example voting rights for women. At the time it was pushed through, Conservatives were strongly against it.
Now you would be hard pressed to find any Republican in the senate to even toy with the idea of removing voting rights for women.
We see similar pattern with gay marriage, When it was passed through the supreme court under the Obama Administration, The majority of conservatives were staunchly against it. Now a new gallop poll reveals that now a majority of Republican voters are in favor of gay marriage.
Conclusion: Conservatives "conserve" nothing, Over time they just give up every single position they have previously held.
So what is a conservative who doesn't conserve anything?
Even worse, It creates the illusion of having real choice, When in reality, As I have demonstrated, Over time and with the occasional hiccups, It clearly goes only one way. The actual function of conservatives isn't to conserve, But to conceal that the US is a one party state.
To add to this, Our legal system finds people INNOCENT before proven GUILITY. You cannot legally assume that somebody committed a crime. Conservatives also follow very, Very bigoted and racist viewpoints, Just go and watch Steven Crowders bit on black farmers, Its horrendous. Not only are they racists, They're liars too. A lot of Republicans in the senate LIED about trying to pass a COVID stimulus bill, But they only took credit because acceptance of it was so high!
Conservatives believe in having a strong society centered around the family unit. People with socially conservative values were very prominent in labor unions in the 1900s. Conservatives do not pander to criminals like Fentanyl Floyd and they do not support abortion. It does not normalize delusional individuals (trans people). They do not have a breakdown over a single word (the n word) and they want a society with a strong and cohesive bond that will last long into the future. They do not support idiotic policies like mass immigration, They prefer to uplift their fellow citizens instead. Also, The most important part is that conservatives are not racist and do not hate white people like progressives do.
"Conservative values entail forcing rape victims to give birth to the rapist's child if she conceived. "
This is not what the conservative viewpoint is. The conservative viewpoint on this issue is that "the child of a rape victim should not be sentenced to capital punishment for the crime committed by the father". Conservatives feel horrible about people being raped, Just like liberals do. But they believe that "two wrongs don't make a right".
This debate is just flat out idiotic, It is okay to be conservative. You are probably one of those people who say that white people should all be slaughtered for what they have done to black people over 150 years ago; maybe you should take notice of your ignorance. The poster of this debate probably also has intentionally cut his penis off and now identifies as a woman. It almost feels as if liberals can have even more ridiculous views than conservative views.
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That's it. Being conservative is an opinion people have the right to have. I myself am not conservative but you must recognize that no political ideology or sect is perfect, There are pros and cons to them all, And it is the people's natural right to individually choose which one they prefer. If the original statement was reversed, I would say the exact same thing. It's ok to be a conservative. It's ok to be a progressive. It's ok to be a republican. It's ok to be a democrat. It's ok to be a libertarian. It's ok to be a socialist. It's ok to be a communist.
The actual definition of conservative is 'averse to change or innovation' without those things will accomplish nothing as a species. Plus with should be teaching our kids to learn innovate and find better ways of doing thing that we do in our day to day lives and I think conservative way of thinking prevents us from doing that.