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Juan_Pablo says2015-08-16T17:14:58.7566429Z
Well, there is some evil in those beliefs. That's undeniable.
Teaparty1 says2015-08-16T17:20:06.7554039Z
Like what?
Juan_Pablo says2015-08-16T17:24:39.3203511Z
Most conservatives (though not all) but MOST defend their passionate racist views or these views by other members. It's disgusting and its evil!
Jman9000 says2015-08-16T17:25:15.5749835Z
I already posted are liberals evil. Figured I'd level the playing field to all those on the left who were offended at the first post.
Juan_Pablo says2015-08-16T17:28:53.9345965Z
No. LIberals aren't evil. Some of us are misguided, in believing that we can fix the world of all its problems (the same flaw Jesus suffered from.) But conservatives? Yeah. There's some evil there.
Teaparty1 says2015-08-16T17:44:01.8826286Z
Juan what racist views do most conservatives have and defend?
Varrack says2015-08-16T18:05:01.7383408Z
A flame war is coming.
Juan_Pablo says2015-08-16T18:12:41.9876431Z
No, Varrack. No flame war here. I'm just offering constructive criticism.
TBR says2015-08-16T18:35:38.7478016Z
Not evil, just selfish.
Teaparty1 says2015-08-16T18:42:04.3153400Z
So Juan, you can't back up your claims?
Teaparty1 says2015-08-16T18:42:42.0449765Z
"constructive criticism" would imply that you said something helpful, but all you did was say that conservatives are racist.
Juan_Pablo says2015-08-16T18:44:39.0839321Z
Selfish. Like the Chinese in the South China Sea. I get your point.
Juan_Pablo says2015-08-16T18:46:48.9071453Z
If you're going to justify your selfishness and racism, be prepared for others to defend their own as well. I'll stop there.
Varrack says2015-08-16T18:51:19.5696993Z
@Juan_Pablo, you describe conservatives as being racist, evil, and selfish; yet you don't expect a flame war? It'd be different if you explained how their beliefs are evil, but just throwing out insults is really never going to get you anywhere. That's what Haroush and a few others do - it's disheartening.
NewLifeChristian says2015-08-16T19:49:33.2276944Z
@Juan_Pablo Racist? @TBR Selfish? Please explain why you believe that.
58539672 says2015-08-16T20:11:04.5628689Z
Conservatives are evil, Liberals are idiots.
58539672 says2015-08-16T20:18:12.6863165Z
''It's not that the Democrats are playing checkers and the Republicans are playing chess. It's that the Republicans are playing chess and the Democrats are in the nurse's office because once again they glued their balls to their thighs.'' —Jon Stewart
Oreo222 says2015-08-16T21:29:46.7854426Z
The U.S. was founded by liberals. Those who though it was TRADITION to be under colonial rule opposed the Revolution. Those who wanted EQUALITY supported it.
NewLifeChristian says2015-08-16T21:33:48.1033895Z
@Oreo222 How do you think our Founding Fathers would respond to abortion, same-sex 'marriage', and assisted suicide?
Oreo222 says2015-08-16T21:41:12.0198351Z
@NewLifeChristian They'd see it like this: throughout human history there have been cycles. At times society has been traditional, at other progressive. They knew this. Since we live in a progressive society, they'd see same sex marriage, assisted suicide, and abortion as inevitably becoming legalized.
58539672 says2015-08-16T23:29:09.6961584Z
@Oreo222 The liberal conservative divide is a very recent development as far as US history is concerned. It didn't really take a noticeable shape until FDR and didn't actually become what it is today in its entirety until Reagan. So saying that the founding fathers were liberal is factually wrong. First, because not all the founding fathers were in agreement on how the nation should be run. Second, because the divide back then was centered around Federalism and Urbanization, not any political divide that we use today. And third, because many did fight to keep their traditional values. The colonies were self run for centuries before the revolution. If anything it was those who supported the tightening of british control of the colonies that were going against the colonies traditional values, i.e. liberals.
Juan_Pablo says2015-08-17T00:33:30.7521086Z
No. Not all conservatives are evil. Some are, but there's some really good conservatives out there too, like George Will.
Network says2015-08-17T00:37:02.9213722Z
They probably don't think of themselves as evil, but then who does? It's not hard to see why the caricatures depict them as evil, though.
Oreo222 says2015-08-17T00:43:18.0344936Z
@58539672 Not true. There has always, regardless of the nation or time period, been conservatives vs liberals. People with traditional values are conservative, and people with progressive values are liberal. The French Revolution, for example, was a struggle between those who wanted equal opportunity for all and those who wanted the status quo. If you mean the development of Democrats and Republicans, then you're correct.
58539672 says2015-08-17T01:26:24.2960517Z
@Oreo222 If you use the real definitions of the words Conservative and Liberal, then your statement is correct. If, however you use the real world application of those words (as is what most people use), then my previous post still stands true. Take the extremely Conservative members of the Republican party. Several of their goals (like a complete free-market economy, stronger military, and absolutely no form of welfare of any kind) did not exist in the past at all. Many of them claim to be returning America to its tradition, when in actuality they are just trying to change America into the nation they want, not what it was. The America they want never existed to begin with. We were never completely capitalist, our strong military is very recent in terms of our total history, and welfare has existed in some shape or form for over a century. So by definition they themselves are liberals because they want to change the current US tradition and culture into something they approve of, even if it is a change to the right. Everyone has something they want to change about the current status quo, so by definition everyone is a little liberal. Yet you would never call these ultra conservatives liberal in real life.
Oreo222 says2015-08-17T01:46:47.6072017Z
I guess we're both kinda right then.
benhos says2015-08-17T21:06:35.8730803Z
Real conservatives are not evil. Fake conservatives (And I do not mean to stereotype, but usually fake Christians) are evil. Fake Conservatives have imagined a country that never was. A "christian" nation. And they say "We need to take our Christian nation back!" Back? This was always a secular nation. I just say we follow the Constitution. Get the f***ing Bible out of politics before I move to Switzerland.
IndependentTruth says2015-08-17T22:33:38.7537976Z
I find it funny that in the "Are liberals evil" poll almost all the conservatives voted yes...But in the "Are conservatives evil" poll almost all the liberals voted no. Seems like liberals are a tad bit more respectful of the other viewpoint.
briantheliberal says2015-08-18T02:55:06.5107595Z
Evil? Maybe. Selfish? Yes. Manipulative? Yes. Lacking empathy? Yes. At least in my experience.
mwedwards says2015-08-18T03:13:47.1595431Z
@brian: Really? Most conservatives you know have tried to manipulate you and are greedy?
PericIes says2015-08-18T03:43:57.3813547Z
People never perform what they believe to be pure evil with no good results. No one is inherently evil. This poll is idiotic.

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