Do You Believe You Have to be Religious to Have Good Morals?

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ladiesman says2017-04-14T20:17:37.7819473Z
The problems occur when someone or a group does something wrong and they twist their religion to rationalize or justify it. Examples include Warren Jeffs, ISIS and predatory Catholic priests.
missmedic says2017-04-15T14:50:53.0402900Z
A lot of horrible things in this world get done for something greater then ourselves. God who would make salvation depend on believing in him on bad evidence.
ItsMissCandice says2017-04-18T10:18:15.2572689Z
Absolutely! I'm a devout and proud Christian! The thing is, without Christianity, we wouldn't really know what was right and what was wrong because ultimately, without Christianity, there would be no God and if there were no God, then there would be no objective morality, there would only be subjective morality and subjective standards of morality! Without objective morality, everything is subjective. Subjective morality just won't work! Most atheists adhere to cultural and/or moral relativism. In my opinion, these two notions of morality are absolutely terrible, and I'll explain why by dismantling them both for you below. For a moment, let's just say hypothetically that morality was indeed subjective. Because of this, morality would not be unchanging, it would be ever changing. What's moral or immoral today, may not be moral or immoral tomorrow in this hypothetical world. The true reason that subjective morality just won't work is because of the subjectivism that accompanies it! Just because an individual personally believes that something is moral or immoral does not make it so, as this is subjective. We have to look to something higher. For example, an individual who adheres to supposed subjective morality could believe that something immoral was moral, and in a true society or world, etc, that truly embraced subjective morality, we would not be able to say to the individual who believes that something immoral was moral, was or is, wrong because it'd all be based on their personal standards and beliefs of morality. The reason obviously being that, with subjective morality, subjective standards of morality come along with it. Again, this just won't work. In the hypothetical world that embraces subjective morality, everybody's standards may have similarities, but a similarity or similarities are just not good enough when it comes to things like morality, as morality is of the utmost importance as it is something that every individual adheres to. The same logic can be applied to cultural relativism. What if an individual is living in a culture where truly immoral things are not seen as immoral, therefore they are allowed?! Does that make the immoral acts suddenly moral just because a culture or even many cultures believe that this hypothetical immoral act, is indeed moral?! No, of course not! It's still objectivity wrong, no matter what an individual or culture or anything else that is subjective, believes. As I'm sure you're all aware, there are countries that commit the most awful atrocities. Now, because these atrocities are acceptable in their culture, does that mean that these things are permissable, or moral and not immoral? Again, of course it doesn't! But these are the types of notions that you must subscribe to if you truly believe in subjective morality. You must believe that unless an individual themselves, or a culture believes that something is right or wrong, by their own subjective standards that is, then that is what it is! But as I've just proven by dismantling subjective morality for you all, this whole subjective morality thing just won't, and doesn't might I add, work! C.S Lewis said in The Abolition Of Man, pointed out that when he looked around at every single diverse culture in the world, they all agreed on basic morality. C.S Lewis was a Christian if you're wondering, too. The thing is, he is right. We all recognise, whether you want to acknowledge it or not is another matter, but we do all recognise some kind of moral code that is objective. We all agree that certain things in particular are truly moral, and we all agree on certain things that are truly immoral. This just proves my point that objective morality always has been and always will be objective, and that objective morality always has been a truly beautiful gift from our Lord God!
FreedomBeforeEquality says2017-04-24T00:29:53.1301944Z
I agree Miss Candice. Religions set an objective morality. In fact though, there being multiple religions at all makes the entire thing have a very subjective feel, since you could essentially just find or make up the religion that best backs your moral preferences. Being good takes work. Living in a society with others takes work. Not having religion around sounds like something someone who doesn't want to put in that work would advocate for. If we have people so unwilling to follow simple social tenets like "Thou shall not steal" or "Thou shall not covet", so much so that they get uneasy just having you teach things like that to others around them, then we have found the root of where social problems actually arise from in our society. It comes from people not willing to put in the work to live in a modern society amongst the rest of us peacefully.
Iacov says2017-04-24T13:32:01.5689255Z
So ItsMissCandise do you think that is only applicable in the case of Christianity or would any other religion work just as well in the same scenario, or pherhaps only certain religions excluding others?
Iacov says2017-04-24T13:33:05.3573255Z
So ItsMissCandise do you think that is only applicable in the case of Christianity or would any other religion work just as well in the same scenario, or pherhaps only certain religions excluding others?
BritFriend says2018-11-02T19:30:48.0801016Z
No Religion does not always even teach morals as the recent occurrences in this country with Christians in government shows - xince a lot of them don't seem to know right from wrong including ignorance of the 6th commandment which states Thou shalt do no murder. They are always wanting to kill or imprison those who believe differently from themselves which goes against the 6th commandment, The love thy neighbor commandment, And the statement in the bible that states that the shedding of innocent blood is one of seven things God hates most (book of Proverbs) Religious people can be very moral and good people but sometimes their morality depends more on their whims and what they want than what is objectively right and wrong.

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