Yes, it's a chinese hoax
No, I live in reality
44%
7 votes
56%
9 votes
B I A S nap
This is an example of a biased poll. Reece is a master.
VyleKarma, I didn't ask if scientists are biased.
You asked if the scientific consensus is biased. Consensus = general agreement.
So how is a scientific consensus biased?
Scientific consensus = general agreement. Humans are biased. Scientists are humans. The general agreement of scientists is biased. It's pretty simple.
By the way, this isn't a biased poll. Human-made Climate Change is a scientific consensus that Trump claimed was a chinese hoax.
@VyleKarma Wow, you really thought it out. Look at all the avenues of thought you went down.
I do not agree that climate change is a chinese hoax.
That isn't consistent with your vote.
Plus it's not consistent with your fallacious logic.
@Reece: That's because you added the "chinese hoax" part. Instead of shaming someone for disagreeing with you, how about you have an option the says "yes, but it is not a Chinese hoax".
It is totally consistent with my vote. I believe the scientific consensus is biased, just like any other consensus. That is a perfectly reasonable position. That doesn't mean I agree with the people and ideas you've lumped into this ideological category. @reece
@Mharman If you disagree with the answers that emotionally, don't vote.
@VyleKarma There's no use reasoning with you. Anyway, why do you have Ron Paul as your pp? Is it because he's one of the more reasonable politicians and more consistent about his stances.
@reece I agree with most of his policies and he's more relevant than any libertarian candidate. Why do you think there's no use reasoning with me? If there's a hole in my thought process I'd be happy to have it pointed it.
@VyleKarma This exchange has multiple layers to it, each smaller than the prior, as arguments go. What's your point other than to debate?
I'll wait for a reply. It's better to overestimate than to underestimate.
@reece my point is that this poll is biased. I can believe that the scientific consensus is biased without believing climate change is a Chinese hoax. It's not my responsibility to abstain from this poll just because you have answer choices that are disjointed with the question.
God.
You can keep making exclamations about how stupid I am, or tell me how I'm wrong.
Or, you can learn.
I want to interfere with @Mharman and @reece
I agree at times it can be biased, but just calling out that every person is completely biased is ridiculous. Someone has always been biased in someway, but probably not so biased that they wouldn't make the right decision needed.
Youraverageunicorn, that's a bit random. Why did you find the need to point that out between Mharman and I?
@reece because I have boring life and like sticking my nose in people's business...
NO! Because I like to speak my mind! It's debate that's why I use this site!
Youraverageunicorn, okay, well next time try to be within context.
@reece I AM I'm taking about scientific consensus! I'm completely confident in what I'm saying.
Youraverageunicorn, are you sure you don't mean VyleKarma and I?
Whatever. I shouldn't be doing this right now. I'm gonna lose it. Shouldn't have been here in the first place
@reece yes I'm not talking about that I'm talking about your differences in opinion on this topic
Youraverageunicorn, can you point to me where our (Mharman and I) two sides of the argument is between differences in opinion with regards to your first comment on this thread?
Or are you purposefully being vague to get yourself out of a corner? It's a typical tactic.
@reece dude you're getting nowhere by just whining about how wrong I am. You have not made one coherent argument against the (indisputable) idea that every human is biased. What am I supposed to do, make an argument up for you and debate myself?
@6ix I didn't argue that the scientific consensus isn't extremely trustworthy and accurate, I just said they're affected by bias. That is not at all controversial.
@VyleKarma Jees your desperate for me to acknowledge you're right about something. Okay, yes, all people are biased about one thing or another. Happy? Now, can we get back on path about objective reality?
One thing and another*
Only reece would use "You're so desperate for me to say I'm wrong" as a defense for being wrong lol
Jesus, the comments are cancer.
@VyleKarma What am I wrong about within context?
Scientific consensus is preposterous, You don't vote on weather science is true or not. ThaT IS WHAT CONSENSUS IS, A BUNCH OF PEOPLE VOTING ON WEATHER OR NOT THEY AGREE WITH SOMETHING.
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Every human is biased. Scientists are humans.
There is no vote or show of hands in science. Consensus has no place in science.
This isn't a statement of truth, it's a statement of belief. Keep that in mind everyone when answering.
If people REALLY believed in science, it wouldn't matter for who you are
A scientist can be biased. But if we are talking about scientific consensus, that means multiple studies have come up with similar conclusions, and it's very likely that we can trust it. When every climate scientist on the planet says climate change is happening and is caused by humans, we can trust them.