“This information (being told as a fact that God is real) in no way has been conceived by the child by intuition but has been drip-fed and forced upon them.”
This argument would also support a multitude of other circumstances or “outcomes from birth” that have been “forced upon them” (as a child).
• Country born in
• Native language spoken
• Parents born to
• Their given name
• Whom their siblings happen to be
• What they will be fed
• Social/Economic status
Borrowing the quote from this unnamed source . . . “This information in no way has been conceived by the child.” None of the above outcomes from birth were ever “conceived” by the child and as for ‘intuition or being drip-fed’ this is irrelevant as all the above outcomes, as a result of birth, ALL have been literally “forced upon them”.
The absolute truth is that a child has been ‘simply enrolled into something (said more correctly multitude of things) that they have no particular views on.’ The fact of the matter is simple: Human babies, infants, enter the world utterly dependent on caregivers to tend to their every need even to include baptism.
We minimize God’s power when we say He cannot be at work in and give value to the infant baby. We minimize God’s power when we say He cannot be at work and give value to the child born in Guatemala, living in poverty, born to parents who are scavengers in the local landfill. No child by intuition would choose to be drip-fed in such an environment from birth. God’s grace given in baptism flows beyond the circumstances surrounding an infants’ birth. Value comes from what God can do in and through His children.
Parents should be allowed to guide their children into the religion that they follow. If they are not happy, they can always convert afterwards. Usually, a child would be happy as a part of the community of the religion their family follows;it means you have more of a connection with your family.
It's they're own choise to be baptised or not , it's they're choice what religion they want to be in. Every one is different , life would be boring if every one was the same . Children should choose what they want to be and why they want to be that person . Children are the future
Acts 2:37-38; 8:12; 18:8
Entire families were baptized in Acts, servants, women, children, INFANTS and all.
In a sense, it's like vaccination. Despite the fact that a child does not understand why a needle is being jabbed into him, or what smallpox is, doesn't mean the parents should not take action. the parents know better than the child, and act on behalf of the child's well-being.
Children should be baptized as a child so their soul does not perish in purgatory if they do die. And if the baptized child chooses to join a different religion, so be it that is their choice. But this is simply my opinion. Everybody's is different, but hey, it makes the world go round.
Children should be baptized. My main argument for this is so the child can grow up and be able to marry in a church with less hassle, if that is their choice. The child needs some spirituality early on in life. It is the parents responsibility to do this much for the children.
As a parent, I should do all I can to ensure that my children will go to heaven. When they were young,I had them baptized, took them to church with me, read them Bible stories. I understand that when they grew older, they might choose other beliefs and lifestyles, but I know I gave them a solid upbringing and a relationship with God. I think spiritual nurturing is just as important as physical and emotional caregiving.
Children should be baptized into the religion by which their parents would like them to be influenced. Of course, all things should be fair and equal because people are different, and no parent should be forced to baptize their child. However, if a parent has a firm belief in their religion, and they would like to raise their child with the values of that religion, the parent should definitely baptize his/her child.
There are 9 examples of Jews and Gentiles being baptized into Christ. They chose for themselves to obey the gospel and they had sin to repent of. What kind of sin does a child have to repent of. And most of the time, they are just trying to please their parents. If they really want to be saved, they still will when they are grown and have something to repent of. We wouldn't let our 10 year old get married and yet we will let them be married to God at age 10. What does a ten year old know about being devoted and having conviction toward someone else they are to spend the rest of their life with? Nothing.
A child died when being baptised, it needs to stop, it must happen another way. Maby they could read a bit of the Bible and ask like in a marrage, it would be better for this to happen since it is easyer and less likely of another child dying in their hands.
A child who does not understand sin, and cannot understand the need to turn away from that sin (repent), is not eligible to be baptized. Acts 2:38 says that we are to repent (turn away from our sinful life) and be baptized in order to have our sins washed away.
Let them make their own choice when they are old enough to make an informed decision. It is unfair to impose beliefs on a child who is unable to make an informed decision. Some Christian will surely object to this but they really need to take a good hard look in the mirror...
I am no longer mormon but an 8 year old mormon child has pretty much no choice but to be baptized with its members telling the child he/she will not go to the highest heaven otherwise. When the child grows older and wants to leave mormonism, either a letter or a crazy intimidating court involving a 'jury' or 18 men is imposed in order to excommunicate. Even still, an excommunicated mormon is STILL counted on it's attendance. It's impossible to fully remove yourself from Mormonism after baptism.
I personally wish that I had the choice to get baptized. If I had the choice I would have passed. Athiesm is an interesting perspective. When you have the chance to have that perspective, honestly with yourself I think many people would take the Athiests road to freedom. When you are baptized it usually means you have religious parents, and you have 1 frame of mind growing up. Unable to view the world from a godless perspective. You will very likely be the same religion as your parents, and pass the same behavior on to your kids. This is how religion grows, because we were lied to from the get go, as were our parents and our parents parents. This creates an environment where thinking beyond our scripted childhood becomes difficult.
Children -especially infants- are told as a fact that God is real because someone who is in higher power over them e.g. parents, priests have told them explicitly. This is known as an 'authorative' way of knowing. This information in no way has been conceived by the child by intuition, but has been drip- fed and forced upon them. Therefore baptizing a child would be simply enrolling them into something that they have no particular views on.
Comparing it to a vaccination, protecting them in whatever comes in the afterlife is illogical. So, what, is little Timmy over here going to perish in purgatory simply because he was not born in a devoutly religious family? A smallpox -jab is not knowledge and experience. A smallpox -jab is not a religion. A smallpox -jab is an immunisation with rather minimal consequences in most cases. The parents allow this because deciding against it is simply ludicrous (unless you wrongly believe they contribute to autism). However religion is heavily debated, and has many views which the child can pick on their own.
Feed the child knowledge from all walks of life, not just the one that you happen to believe.
Children should not be baptized. If it is such an important part of someone's life or their religion, then I do not believe young children are old enough to make such a decision. Some babies are baptized, but that is completely up to the parents and not the child. Some children are baptized, but that is only because -- if it is even their choice -- parents tell them to do it or tell them how "great" it is to be baptized, and children can be impressionable. So I do not believe people should baptized unless it is entirely their choice.
Some denominations baptize children as a symbol of God's grace. Other people believe that only adults or those who are old enough to profess their salvation in Christ should be baptized. I believe that baptism is for professing believers. Most children are too young to make this decision, and infants definitely are too young.
A child does not have much knowledge about any religion, and therefore should decide if they want to be baptized later in their life. When a parent is forcing a child to get vaccinated, they know that it is good for the child. However, when a parent forces a child to be baptized, if it is good for the child or not is based on faith and doing so without the agreement of the child harms their religious freedom. However, the child likely does not even know what religion is back then, so they should decide later in life.