It really shouldn't matter whether you are or are not gay that you have a special privilege to get married somewhere specific. Aren't we as a world today trying to bring people together? So why shouldn't we allow gay people to get married in a church it shouldn't be different privileges for people who want to marry the same sex and those who don't
If churches were exempt from having to marry anyone from the LGBT community, this would be a legalised form of discrimination. Just like restaurants were labelled as for whites or for coloured, it would be a similar situation. Also, in response to President_Vern, since the church and state are separate bodies, don't you also think that we shouldn't allow court-house marriages between heterosexual couples? There's a separation between church and state so why should, sometimes considered sacred, unions of couples be conducted in a government setting? Should religious couples not be allowed to have court-house marriages? The phrase "separation of church and state" itself does not appear in the US Constitution, either. Jefferson said it at the Supreme Court, so even if churches were not tax exempt, there wouldn't be an issue, because there's no explicit law stating that there's a genuine separation between church and state. The US Supreme Court has referenced the separation of church and state metaphor more than 25 times, though not always fully embracing the principle, saying "the metaphor itself is not a wholly accurate description of the practical aspects of the relationship that in fact exists between church and state".
"Allowed" is such a confusing word. If you mean, "Should it be forced on the churches and the right of the people?": No. Definitely not. Separation of Church and State. However, if you mean, "If the Church says it's okay, should it be legal for them to marry?": Yes. Most definitely.
This does not mean that every church would necessarily be forced to perform gay marriages (any more than they should be forced to sing or not during church services, for example), but as far as it being allowable for gay people to be married in a church - most definitely.
I think it's too bad that the prejudices of a relatively few people, far back in time , still has such an impact. It's taken a long time, but change has come, surprisingly fast once the movement started in earnest, in my opinion.
Rights, and the protection of them, has to go both ways. LGBT people should have the right to marry whoever they want, but religious figures should also have the right to refuse to do something they don't want to.
As long as a religious figure isn't preaching hate or homophobia, they should be able to reserve the right to politely decline performing an LGBT wedding.
If you love someone no matter what you'd want to be with them for life. Do you think God wanted to limit love? Is love in this world limited?! I thought as a kid there was only one sexuality, but now I'm older I've come to an understanding of how there are so much different types of people and sexualitys, and I respect any lgbt person fighting for their feelings! Do they have to fight against abuse because they were born differently?!
The general answer is yes, gays SHOULD be allowed to get marred by a church. However, gays SHOULD NOT require a church to marry them. If a couple desires to have a church wedding, it will be their job to find a church that condones homosexuality. Because of their religious freedoms, no CHURCH should be forced to marry someone (not just homosexual) they do not want to marry. However, other wedding venues should not be allowed to deny homosexuals unless they have the same tax exemptions the church has.
In the U.S, the Church and the Government are separate bodies. Government cannot make any law pertaining to the Church, and the a Church has no power in Government. Because of this, it is ultimately the Church's decision as to whether or not a homosexual may be married. Just today, same-sex was legalized on a federal level. Is it possible that religion could become the next target? Share you opinions below, let's get a debate fired up.
Marriage is defined by the church between a man and a woman... Not two men or two women. Now because of the liberal agenda gay marriage is now legal. When a priest refuses to marry a gay couple he can be persecuted or hit with legal trouble. Now since the constitution allows freedom of religion, it goes against that priest's rights because it is a part of his religion not to marry a homosexual couple.
When discussing about couples that are "Gay", most churches will obviously be against the idea of marrying a same sex couple; especially "hardcore" Christians. And, in my opinion, the church should get a say of whether or not they want to Marry a same sex couple. They should not be forced by the Government for denying the marriage of a same sex couple, just because they have a different belief than others.
Marriage can be preformed in one of two ways. You can either be married by a religious organization or by a governmental representative (judges, politicians, etc.) The federal government can regulate marriage laws within their own jurisdiction, but the regulation of religious facilities are not their responsibility (unless they want to establish a state religion). This also applies to different religious settings. A person can't get married in a synagogue unless one of the individuals is or plans to become a jew. Same thing for mosques and churches. And all three are against gay marriage and can refuse to do it, whether people like it or not.
God created humans to engage in sex only within the arrangement of marriage between a male and a female. (Genesis 1:27, 28; Leviticus 18:22; Proverbs 5:18, 19). Therefore, the marriage of an homosexual couple is part of the current system we live in, the system of sin.
It does not matter if it is ethnically/morally "ok", for the question here is: should it or should it not be allowed for the church to marry gay couples? As we are all aware, the church follows the word of God. That said, it should be, as of now, clear that the answer is no.
While I agree that homosexual marriage is not an issue, we must agree that not everyone believes that to be so. Many religions such as Judaism, Christianity, and Islam do not approve of such practice and while it is perfectly legal for two men to marry civilly it would be unconstitutional to force religions who do not believe in such practices to perform such an act.
Fags dont belong in churches, fags only belong six feet under. They fucking give us aids and expect a goddamn parade for their primitive and disgusting behaviour seen in animald. . . . . . . . .. . . . . . .. . . . . . ...
It goes against their belief. Its this simple if they have the right to be gay and be married then we have the right to say no and reject marriage. I f gay people don't top being gay for society and for churches then why should churches marry gays and go against their religion for society and gays. Its that simple.
Everyone has a right, including churches and their communities. Why is it suddenly that gay rights try to enforce their religion on to everyone else? If you don't subscribe to a church's belief, would it be fair that they must perform any duties to people who are not from their community, even worse, opposing them?
If a church is fine with have them there then it's fine, but if not I don't think the church should be forced to do go against their beliefs by the government. We have separation of church and state for a reason. It's not worth screwing up over something that doesn't really matter that much.