• The Word "Church" is the Word "Ecclesia" and this is a "Political" word!

    "Godliness exalts a nation...” Proverbs 14:34
    “Without wise leadership, a nation is in trouble, but with good counselors there is safety.” Proverbs 11:14

    William Wilberforce was an English Christian Politician - who abolished slavery because of his strong Christian conviction.

    If Christians stand for Truth, Justice they cannot but help, become involved in politics.

    In the Old Testament we see; Daniel and Joseph Serving God in the office of Presidency.

    In the New Testament we have Sergius Paulus, the Roman proconsul (Governor of Rome) , who was converted to Christianity and remind in office.

    Jesus said we were to be salt and light in the world, the yeast in the dough of society. We are to exercise Kingdom Influence for the benefit of all,

    "Archbishop Desmond Tutu said in the thick of the battle against apartheid, 'When people say that the Bible and politics don't mix, I ask them which Bible they are reading'".

  • Separation of church and state is misunderstood.

    Yes the church should be involved in politics. The argument that the Constitution separates church and state is widely misunderstood. That provision is supposed to keep the government from interfering with peoples religion and the way they worship God, not keep religious people from participating in government or politics. Our own Pledge of Allegiance states "One nation, under God, indivisible. With liberty and justice for all." Did you hear that? Under GOD! INDIVISIBLE! It doesn't separate God or religion from government. It separates government from messing with our religion or our God.

  • The Church can and should be involved

    It is the freedom of every citizen to express their opinions and be involved in politics as they see fit. The church has no right to reflect political partisan, only to guide the members towards the most biblical candidate or party by encouraging it's members to vote in the way God leads them. The Bible says in 2 Corinthians 10:3-4, "Of course we are human, but we don’t fight like humans. The weapons we use in our fight are not made by humans. Rather, they are powerful weapons from God. With them we destroy people’s defenses, that is, their arguments"(God's Word Version)

  • Yes, for the good of the people.

    The church should become involved in politics when the good of the people is in jeopardy. The church has a moral obligation to be the voice of the voiceless. Looking back in history, figures such as Romero and Belo became involved in politics because of a corrupt government. A dictatorship's strongest weapon is fear. When the people have their rights stolen, the church must intervene and give back the voice to the people.

  • Yes, not controlling but involved.

    The Church should be involved in politics. Granted, I'm not saying it should CONTROL the government, but that it should be allowed to share its views just like any other institution. If one looks back on history, many times it was the government that controlled the church just as much as when the church controlled the government.

  • Historically the term Sep of church and state was protecting the church.

    Thomas Jefferson promised to protect the church from the state as what had happened in Great Britain with state ran churches controlled by the king. Typically religion promotes a higher morality. Everything in early America was influenced by religion especially Christian. Our laws can be traced back to the Bible and the creation of the Constitution. Ultimately our founders did not want a theocracy but largely wanted the influence of religion to merge into the state to fight corruption with the teachings of morality and the holding of one's self to a higher power called God that would judge their actions. One nation under God instead of one nation under man. We further protected us with the separation of powers. If you separate the church from the state then you will get the difference between the American Revolution and the French Revolution. You will get a secular atheistic gov where man is the higher power creating a authoritarian government. And history has shown this has contributed to more death than even theocracies like Islamic Sharia law.

  • Yes, definitely, only Lord Jesus can SAVE the WORLD!


    I am literally praying right now applying the blood of Jesus on your computer screens, on your keyboards, on your mouse, on the chair that your sitting on, i am applying the blood of jesus to you, a sinner, humble yourself, follow our LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST!




  • Politics spiritual voice

    Government was supposed to stay out of the house of worship. Being tax-exempt was a moral obligation from men that understood how much spiritual guidance was needed. The founding fathers knew they needed God more than ever and that if we were going to stand as a nation it would have to be a Godly Nation. Removing God from government would be the greatest mistake we have ever made. Would the founding fathers support satanic worship absolutely not it was never in their mind. Would they supported Islamic absolutely not the nation was built on judeo-christian values and that is the only thing that has kept us free. When those values are removed you can count on seeing the collapse of America coming. We need a judeo-christian Revival to remove the doubt of where we came from. Prayer is the answer determination is the driving force that spawns our Faith

  • The Church has every right to be involved.

    It is the duty of the Holy Church to guide the poor souls towards God, and one of the best way to do it is trough dorectly governing. This separation of Church and State is an aberation created by sodomists, sinners and non believers to limit the influence of the Holy Church. Let us all remember the Church even had its own state.

  • The Church has influence!

    The church should be involved because they have the capability to help! The force and influence of the church is paramount and it is key that this is used to benefit the world. I feel my best example would have to be during World War II, in which Pope Pius XII spoke out against the Nazi Euthanasia programme, and as a result the scheme diminished. I am a secular, yet I still believe religion to be a force for good (in small doses though, I do not feel that religion should rule whole nations).

  • No the church should not be involved.

    Should the church be involved in law making.

    The church should not be involved in lawmaking. The church should not be involved in law making because the church and the government are two very different things. The church should not get involved in the affairs of a country and they should never ever get involved in law.

    The first reason that the church should not get involved in lawmaking is that the church gets their laws from a book that is 2000+ years old. I think that the church should not get in other people's affairs(people that don't care about the church or their beliefs) ,they should not sing loudly and that they should never get in lawmaking.

    Some people may say that the churches laws are good and peaceful but we don't have to forget that the church has ordered the killings of millions of people. An example of this is the crusades. The church ordered knights to go and "reclaim" the "holy" land from the Muslims. The holy land is where Jesus is supposed to have lived. Because of this order millions of Arabs and Christians were killed fighting for very stupid reasons.

    Another example is when the church killed thousands of people during the Spanish Inquisition. The church got people that did not believe in god or were simply not Christians and they were tortured and killed. This should've never have happened because it is very stupid to kill people for what they believe in.

    What all of these cases have in common is that the church or a very I religious king/queen ruled during that time. One of the main causes of fights today is here between religions. An example of this is the Arab-Israeli conflict an conflict that is about fighting because a long time ago their ancestors fought each other for the holy land and that the Jews and the Muslims can't live peacefully side by side.

  • No, the church should not be involved in politics as in theory there is a separation of church and state

    Most churches although, having a premise of a spiritual nature, are religious institutions and themselves seem to have politics at work in their own systems, which makes it understandable that although they should not be involved in politics, they are. The intention of the separation of church and state was to ensure that individuals could practice their spiritual or religious beliefs without fear of retaliation. Religious–political affiliations are a contradiction of that intent.

  • Politics is a tool people use to gain power, control and money over other people by offering favors in return for support.

    Politics is a tool people use to gain power and control over others by offering favors in return for support. Things get done not because it’s right or wrong but because it benefits someone. Politics is used to look like they are blessing God but this is counter to God.

  • Don't like the framers?

    ALL men are created equal, with certain unalienable rights, not just Protestants, not just Catholics, not just Jews. By stating that Church and lawmaking should be integrated, you are stating that religions and minorities should have different levels of representation in a Congress or any Office of the United States. Remember that the main reason that our Nation separated from Great Britain was that the people from our territories were not receiving representation in British Parliament. If the two are integrated, would America itself split off into different nations, each governed by different religions and beliefs???

  • The "church" should imitate-- the one who they claim is their leader.- Jesus.

    Their 'instruction book' tells them to stay out of the worldly politics.
    Jesus’ followers should be “no part of the world.”
    ''If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you'' (John 15:19)
    The church should do like Jesus did:
    "Jesus answered: “My Kingdom is no part of this world. If my Kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be handed over to the Jews. But as it is, my Kingdom is not from this source.” (John 18:36)
    That seems pretty straight forward and simple to me.

  • Church shouldn't be involved with the State.

    First, if the church is involved, you have to figure out which church. If its all faiths and religions, all of which claim to be divine and infallible.. Well, then we start with an irreconcilable problem. There would be no way to satisfy all parties under one State.

    A secular state, based on having reasoning behind laws and justifications based on secular ethics is the only way to make religions play nice. Dogmatic, faith based laws cannot do that, mainly because if you disagree... You aren't allowed to question it anyway, and if you aren't of that faith that faith cannot give you any satisfying justifications for such laws.

    "because god says so" is never a convincing argument. Not for everyone. The fact that believers cannot get along among themselves is great evidence of this.

    The only way to be inclusive of the population is to keep our most divisive institutions out of the State. And the people claiming their religions special right to State matters sure seem to use their religion to justify it, as opposed to actual reasons everyone can agree on.

  • Church and state must always be seperated

    Just because as a nation we were awarded with the freedom to practice religion doesn't make it acceptable to let it interfere with politics. Think of it like this: If one person was told the sky was blue all their life they would believe so. However if another person was told that the sky was in fact grey they would believe that.. When these two meet and they will most definitely have a debate because the color of the sky has always been the simplest thing to them and they can't see around it, or even agknoedge the others opinion. They would rather be stubborn and keep to their tradition instead of actually considering if all they knew was wrong.

  • Not everyone has the same religion.

    Not everyone has the same religion. That is actually one of the reasons behind pilgrims coming to America. If one church got involved in politics and helps create laws and cultural norms then it would create , not only, a bias country politically, but also socially. Therefore causing hatred and possible uprisings.

  • What about unreligious people?

    If there is an unreligious person, or someone of a different religious belief, how do you think they would feel if there were a new law past which was bases on Christianity or the Christian god? They wouldn't be happy, and would create turmoil, which would help to destroy our nation. Therefore it is easier to just not let members of the church be in government

  • We've seen enough blood shed from the past because of Church Interference

    For several years, so many Muslims and non-Christians have been killed simple because they do not agree with the Church. The Church causes chaos when they interfere with political affairs. The Church should stick to what they do best which is religion. The Church is good for all the good work that they do but politics isn't something they should interfere with. They can state their own opinions and all but they should never fully interfere.

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