I believe that it is wise to ban the Confederate flag on public property because it is offensive to many U.S. citizens and has little relevance in 2012, other than as a historical symbol. To many people, the flag merely symbolizes a time when slavery and racism were acceptable in society. Perhaps it should be permitted on private property, but there is no sound reason to allow Confederate flags on public property. It serves no real purpose.
Why should we tolerate the display of a symbol that was used by traitors to the US on any public property? I'm tired of the "southern pride" excuse - to me that is simply a politically correct way of say "I'm proud to be from a place that was pro-slavery and a place that continues to be ignorant and racist enough to flaunt it. It's been flown by the KKK and other bigots that wanted to terrorize people of color. If the racists won't take them down it's time to tear them down and burn them. Its also time to stop all federal tax dollars going to states that fly them or incorporate any part of them into other state flags
If the Nazi flag is outlawed so too should the confederate flag. The continuing acceptance of that flag lends itself to the hateful raciest movements we now experience in the congress of the united states as well as everyday life. Lets complete the reconstruction envisioned by President Lincoln and be done with it.
This is not even THE CONFEDERATE FLAG this is a portion of the secondary flag they made during the civil war so they knew where and when their flag was and fell. Why are we fighting over the unofficial flag of the Confederate States of America. I think that is stupid.
Like it or not this is part of our history and it give many a distorted positive view of the confederate south. There is too much stupid amongst us that, sadly, we need to apply the same approach to the stars and cross as Germany has in dealing with its history. (Strafgesetzbuch section 86a.) There are far better ways to honor confederate veterans (which I strongly support) than with the flag for the perpetuation and proliferation of slavery and racial hatred.
The confederate flag is part of history. So are Ted Bundy, Influenza, Nuclear holocaust, and the Swastika. We don't put them on bumper stickers n t-shirts folks. The confederate flag is a symbol of mankind at his worst. Human slavery. Not good. Evil. This shouldn't even be a debate.
Anyway, on public property that is paid for and owned by the public (hence the name public) the majority opinion must rule, and although this will come as a great surprise to the many proud displayers of dixie, the majority of Americans are in fact against human slavery. And the proud state history argument is nonsense - the first Confederate flag was created in 1861 and died a few short years later. It never flew proudly over any state capitol before then. In fact, the southern states were fiercely independent up until the time if the civil war.
The confederate flag must be stricken from any public place, along with any other symbol which has NO OTHER MEANING except for hate.
On any property belonging to a private individual, any symbol that the owner wants should be displayed as long as it is not visible to the public domain. Swastikas, satanic stars, whatever. If its private property, its private property. Period. If you don't like it don't go there and look at it.
It is my belief that the flying of the Confederate flag should be illegal as it represents treasonous actions on the part of the states that chose to secede from the Union. My Great Grandfather's diary (an Union Vet from Delaware) references skirmishes with the "traitors." Those who chose to ignore their oath to the United States caused thousands of lives and a great deal from our national treasury. Those who claim the war was about states rights are correct, but the disagreement was whether or not states could choose to be slave states or states that followed the spirit of the United States - that being that all men are created equal. I believe photographs in books, display in a museum, the sort of display that encourages education is fine. I believe public display in a government office, in the workplace, on a bumper sticker should be made illegal. This represents treason to the United States. I believe this is also offensive to African Americans, but I do not believe it should be made illegal only on those grounds.
Firstly the civil war is over. There is no more Union or Confederates. We're not divided as a nation, hence why we're call the "United States of America. The U.S should be ashamed of Slavery. Therefore it the conference flag I fact without a doubt should be illegal. Case closed.
Let's talk about the Nazi Party for once....They wanted to kill Jewish People but people today wants to keep it because it deals with their 'heritage.'
However, you want to think that it not similar to the Confederate. The Confederate wants to keep slaves so their crops are taken care of...You CANNOT change that true fact. The Confederate Flag is not our flag that represent our country. The red, white, and blue stripes do. It is the 21st century, not the 19th. Stop moving backward. MOVE forward. The world is changing and it is time for you too.
If you still want to believe your heritage bulcrap. Go ahead...Because when we go to heaven, there is no confederacy in sight.
~Tomeara, age 12
Not even considering the racism question, the Confederate flag represents treason against the United States of America. What other country would allow flags of an enemy fly over its GOVERNMENTAL buildings? Does the Japanese imperial flag fly over the Pearl Harbor memorial? Does the Nazi flag fly at Arlington National Cemetery? Does the Union Jack fly over the Washington Memorial?
People can fly those flags over their private property but not on government buildings.
Not everyone owned a slave. Lincoln created total war. The confederacy was a right to democratically leave the union. Personally I don't care about blacks anyway. Not everyone does. What about the Irish who were basically forced into Lincoln's army? It's just like the holocaust, Zyklon b can't vaporize until its 81 F! It's not that warm in Poland in Winter. But some people just buy everything they hear. Especially uneducated, primitive minded people that can't think for themselves!
Let's all take a step back for a moment, this is no small deal ladies and gentlemen. Here we are roughly 150 years after the civil war, still squabbling over rights and racism, still fighting the same battles our predecessors did on the bloody battlefields such as bull run and Shiloh. This isn't just some political decision about a colored piece of cloth, this is a battle to either preserve or outlaw a vital piece of American history. North or south, black or white, it does not matter here. Let's all just leave or prejudices and race cards at the virtual doors of this website and think clearly about all of this for a moment. That flag that everyone is so up in arms about has been around longer than anybody arguing about it right now. It has seen its fare share of battles an arguments, it has been a symbol for many individuals and organizations, for many purposes, and yes unfortunately one of those ideas the flag has stood for is racism. Radicals toting the flag have disgraced her true meaning and instilled a terrible stigma to the flag and the south as a whole. I believe discrimination of any kind is unacceptable in any setting and that we are all equal in the eyes of the lord, that being said I feel very proud when I see the old stars and bars. Why you may ask? Well because to me that flag represents a huge part of history. It symbolizes that same independent can do will do defiant spirit that founded this country in the first place. Organizations like the Klan and the Skinheads who tote the flag around as a symbol of hatred should be ashamed of themselves. They shame the flag they claim to love and respect so much. They have claimed to be proud southerners and yet they have forgotten what the war was truly about. It was always about rights, the south believed that their conditional rights were being crushed by the North and so in true American fashion they rebeled and challenged the oppressing system that threatened their lifestyle. It wasn't about owning slaves or not ( not saying it wasn't a part of the argument, just saying that was one of the rights the south felt was being infringed upon). There has always been and will always be radicals on both sides, and there will always be varying opinions on this topic and other topics much like it, however there is a common ground. Instead of going around banning symbols much like the flag that are not specifically a racist or prejudice symbol why not do a better job educating the public on the true meaning of them? It makes no sense to completely ban them.By doing so you give the ignorant radicals more ammunition for their unjust and ignorant cause. Let's educate ourselves America, instead of throwing knowledge out the window.
Protected under the freedom of speech/expression
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
Having a flag in a public place is basically the right to assemble because they are protesting that they would rather have this government instead of another one. And the protest isn’t violent or killing anyone so it is peaceful
Protected by 10th amendment--not in constitution --> not federal right; state right
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
marijuana is not stated in the Constitution meaning that it is a state right. States get to choose if marijuana is banned or not. In the same way the banning of the Confederate flag is a state right not federal
if different religions are tolerated, why not different perspectives from different people
Union must tolerate Southern heritage
if British flag isn't banned, if the swastika isn't banned, why the Confederate flag
No violence now (with flag), what about with no flag?
Wouldn't more people revolt and cause more chaos and violence?
Confederate flag represents southern heritage, pride, and its rich history
Flag is nothing more than a historical symbol; no technical political value, as Union had actually never considered the C.S.A. As a separate country in the first place.
Those who died fighting for the Confederacy deserve the same respect as those who died fighting for the Union.
How does the flag symbolize racism?
It is a flag of southern heritage and respect should be shown to all.
The South lost the Civil War. The Nazi symbol is not banned, even though the Germans lost WWII, and therefore the Confederate symbol should not be banned from the Union
Robert E. Lee honored his own country even though he did not agree with it's policies. Why shouldn't we be loyal to the flag by honoring its generals and soldiers who fought this war?
The flag doesn't necessarily represent the cruelty of slavery. Some owners treated their slaves with respect so that their slaves could work better with high spirits.
It'll be taking away our perspective of history, and the war will slowly be forgotten. The Confederacy also had political issues to prove, such as giving some power to the states. By banning the flag you are erasing part of our , the US, history
The Civil War was mostly fought over states rights. According to the tenth amendment, if it's not in the Constitution, like the Confederate battle flag, it's a state right. So why would we deny the enemy's states rights if we fought a war with them for state rights? The Civil War results show that there has to be a balance of federal and state rights.
As an African American I have to say that I am not offended by the Confederate flag. It is part of the history of the south. I dont think it should be banned anymore than any other historical flag. Why do we have to try and hide and ban everything that reminds us of unpleasant things. In fact when I look at the flag I feel a sense of pride in thinking back to the fact that the country came together to abolish slavery. It may have still taken some time receive equal treatment but this is where it started. Stop seeing the glass as half empty.
I think that should be a choice made at the discretion of those who have it. If they wanna have it, that's their right even as much as it may be a throwback to a different time in America and namely the South. I don't think one should have the right to tell someone they can't fly it if they wish to.
The Confederate flag that people either love or hate is most often either the flag that flew over the Army of Tennessee or the Army of Northern Virginia. It flew over armies of men who, by and large, owned no slaves and were not fighting to preserve slavery. Rather, they were fighting against an invasion of their lands by a foreign power. Lincoln was very specific in stating that he was not prosecuting the war to free a single slave, but to preserve the tax monopoly of the United States government in the states that had seceded from the United States just as the original American colonies had done from the British Empire.
Yes, every one of the Confederate states protected chattel slavery, a monstrous practice. So did four states that stayed in the Union-Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland, and Delaware-and the District of Columbia. Lincolns much lauded Emancipation Proclamation specifically excluded those states, as well as specific areas in the Confederate states that were occupied by Union armies. So, Lincoln "freed" slaves in areas where he had no power to do so, and left them in chains where he could have freed them.
Symbols are tricky. They are given meaning by people. Without people, a symbol-be it a flag or a monument-is just an object. Cloth, or stone. The Confederate flag, to me, symbolizes resistance to invasion and the defense of the right of secession. I also can see how someone else could see it as a symbol of hate as it was used by the Klu Klux Clan in the 1960s and 1970s in opposition to the civil rights movement.
Anyone can adopt a symbol for their cause. In the early 20th century the Klan, as a powerful nationalist organization, used the U.S. flag almost exclusively. Look up the largest Klan rally in history-held in Washington D.C. In 1914-the photos show ranks of Klansmen carrying flags-those flags were not flags of the Confederacy.
The U.S. flag flew over slavery for almost nine decades before abolition. It flew over the annihilation of the western Indians and the mass internment American citizens who happened to be of Japanese decent, yet most Americans choose to let it symbolize the ideal of their country, whatever that may be for them.
There is no difference between these two pieces of cloth. They will mean different things to different people. Too bad so many folks can't tolerate difference of opinion.
Its history not hate . This decision makes no sense. Men died for that flag many many years ago. That flag honors them. It is sad that people are told they can't have the flag on display. Take it off the dukes of hazard General lee is a crazy idea
After reading up on the Civil War my views have changed. I now actually see it as a symbol of American freedom. To be dissatisfied with ones own government but free enough to have the right to disagree with said government is what makes America so great. So I now support the Southern Cross "Confederate" flag, because as long as it flies, American can surely say that it is still a free nation.
Why make yet another prohibiting law? Let the people decide if they want it displayed in their region or not. Most white people I've known consider the Confederate battle flag a symbol of Southern culture and identity, not slavery. Most black people I've known don't care one way or the other about the flag. So, let's not create more social and legal rifts for ourselves. Let it be a local issue and let's move on to more important issues than flags, like how to prevent psychologically disturbed people from slaughtering others.
This flag as many others support freedom of choice and for what our ancestors fought for an gave their lives for; just as any other fight for ones own personal believes. It is our right to believe in what ever we want to in America! We should be able to fly it without anyone trying to ban it. It was a battle flag not a flag of hate. It is a symbol of military free choice. What is this country coming to, communism and control? This issue is not right, it is a violation of the free of choice we have a americans!