Do You Want Death Rates To Go Up Higher ?

Do you even know how many animals die in the zoo? I dont think you do. They get killed in their own exhibits! A Hayena got run over by a boulder. A lion cub got crushed by its own exhibits door. I understand that they will die outside too but dying in a cage rather than in its own habitat, isnt that sad?

Agreed. When my family went to the Florida central zoo, a baby rhino drowned in a lake right in front of us. It couldn't be saved.

If we let animals just roam free eventually they will come up in the cities and raid us? I didn't know this was planet of the apes.

Most animals try to keep away from cities, and the only human habitats that they do go near are ones that are quite close to their own habitat. For example, I live in the hills, and a lot of cows live here too, but they don't come near the houses, but rather stay on the hills that haven't been converted. Whereas in the city, which I actually just went to today, there are no stray animals or free animals, but only pets with their owners. So I don't think we have to worry about this.

Helpful. Very helpful. If i was the Affirmative team, i'm sure the Adjudicators would obviously vote this as a WIN!!! Keep up the good work!

Thx all

LimPin :)

Animals are beaten, drugged, and abused in captivity. They are also taken from their parents at a young age just to be shown for money. Animals would never raid us. The only reason they would is because people are so mean and lock them up in small caged, pins, and kitty pools. Do you know how many animals die in captivity within a few years when they are supposed to live for a long time? Did you know almost all captive orcas lifespans are cut in half? Nope you clearly didn't. Unless someone actually has evidence that captivity is helping animals please don't comment.

"Animals are beaten, drugged, and abused in captivity. They are also taken from their parents at a young age just to be shown for money. Animals would never raid us. The only reason they would is because people are so mean and lock them up in small caged, pins, and kitty pools. Do you know how many animals die in captivity within a few years when they are supposed to live for a long time? Did you know almost all captive orcas lifespans are cut in half? Nope you clearly didn't. Unless someone actually has evidence that captivity is helping animals please don't comment."
Animals are rarely beaten in zoos. In some poor countries, maybe, but most zoos aren't like that. Drugs may be used, yes, but usually for medical purposes - which is an interesting complaint to make about zoos seeing as medical care is one thing that captivity can provide far better than the wild can. Animals are not necessarily abused in captivity. What about them being captive do you consider "abuse", other than the false claims of them being beaten and drugged?

Captive animals are rarely taken from their parents in zoos - in some countries, yes, but again that is the exception rather than the norm. Most animals currently in captivity were either born there or found injured in the wild. The animals born their are usually kept with their parents until they are at an age when their parents would usually leave them in the wild anyway.

I do agree that animals do not raid us - that is a silly argument and is only true in cases where we have used up their natural habitat so that they can no longer survive wild (another reason they MUST be temporarily kept in zoos in some cases).

Animals are not kept in small cages, pins and "kitty" pools for the most part. Yes, there exhibits are smaller than the space they would have in the wild, but do you think an animal would really live in a space 100,000ths of acres wide if it had everything it needed in a small area? No! Animals use space in the wild because they need it to survive. Zoo animals have everything they need in a small space. As long as there's room to exercise and explore, the animal doesn't need anything more.

Your claim about animals dying regularly in captivity is simply wrong. 50% of big cats die before they reach 2 years old in the wild. In captivity, almost all survive to that age except for unusual cases. Captivity is in almost all cases better for an animal's survival BECAUSE captivity can provide the things which are fought for in the wild. Captivity provides free space, free food and free medical attention for animals without them needing to risk their lives for it. Orcas and elephants are among the minority in terms of species that die young. Most animals live just as long or longer in captivity on average. Orcas are rarely properly cared for in captivity... Little is known about how to keep them properly. That does not mean that most wild animals die young captive. If you do your research, you will find that most will live longer in a captive environment.

If the above evidence is not enough to prove that zoos help animals, then look at this list:
- Zoos sometimes take animals from the wild to nurse them back to health - i.e. seals caught in fishing line.
- American bison survival through captive breeding after population dropped to 500 - now number half a million.
- California condors went extinct in the wild and captive breeding has improved the population from 22 to over 400 in 20 or so years.
- Lord Howe Island stick insects were thought extinct for about 80 years until a tiny population of 24 insects were found living on plant debris. Within about 10 years, one zoo bred over 9,000 of these insects.
- Many other animals have been saved from extinction by zoos: black-footed ferrets, Przewalski's horse, red wolves...
- Zoos promote and fund conservation programs which assist in wild animal survival. Look at a zoo's website and you will often see conservation programs that they are running or promoting.
- Many animals are in situations where they will likely die out in the wild without captive breeding.
- Zoos are far safer than the wild, especially if the animal's natural ecosystem or habitat is under threat.

While I do think OP's post lacks common sense, yours lacks basic knowledge as well. Zoos undoubtedly do help animals.

If you were an Animal, would you like to be held Captivity for people to look at you,take pictures or even pet you like a house animal?? No you would not so why would you do it to the animal, that have right to... Just because they don't talk to tell you what the want...... You should still give then a little freedom in life..... And do you like to be depressed??? Well if so you know how the animals feel and just remember Animal may not like where they are but because people like you like to watch animals eat?!?!?!

How would death rates go up. Most zoo animals live in Africa in the wild. Unless you want to live in the wild where nobody else lives then yes you will probably get eaten but not if you live in a town in Africa or another country.

Animals wouldn't be dying if it wasn't for us. We are the ones killing them off because we're taking their land. If we weren't so full of ourselves then animals wouldn't have to be endangered. But all the world cares about is money.