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Posted by: SGR

There is a lot of confusion, and it's all unjustified because the truth is very simple

  There are only two sexes. But there are myriad genders. Two often people relate to gender, the same understanding of sex. Sex is what is given to you at birth based on your genitalia. It's not a matter of debate unless you get a sex-change. At birth, you are either man, woman, or possibly a hermaphrodite. That is indisputable. But it is not so definite or binary with gender. In the issue of gender it is psychological, not a matter of opinion or 'feelz'. There is very little to dispute. There is not a definitive Man or Woman in the human gender identity. There is a Man and a Woman, but there is a whole spectrum in between where people can identify how they wish. Sex is binary, gender isn't Source: I am a gender non-conformist in theory
harrytruman says2016-09-10T20:11:23.450
You claim that gender is mental, but fact is this was just made up.Recently by transgender, gender has always been defined as sex.

Besides, there is no relation between your genitalia and mentality, thus you cannot have the wrong set of genitals based on your mentality (as transgender claim)
SGR says2016-09-10T20:30:53.803
So if I feel like dressing with a skirt and I am a male, I diserve a gender?
Sciguy says2016-09-10T20:33:13.797
You're a quack!
ChaosLupus says2016-09-10T21:52:05.897
Gender was always synonymous with sex until the PC SJW's decided they needed a sugar-coated way of defining a mental disorder.
1piemanpie says2016-09-10T22:08:24.847
Exactly.
ThePostMarxist says2016-09-10T22:44:14.700
That's because, get this, words change. Ha? Who knew? When the idea of transgenders became more acceptable people needed a term for the state of psychological identification so they used the word gender, and kept the word sex for biological definition
1piemanpie says2016-09-10T22:49:30.583
...Yea what he said
ThePostMarxist says2016-09-10T22:50:57.683
It's not a mental disorder. There is no psychiatry behind non-binary being a mental disorder. There is no science behind the claim it is a mental disorder
1piemanpie says2016-09-10T22:52:20.800
Oops i said that twice
1piemanpie says2016-09-10T22:56:22.837
The way i see it is if you have a dohickey your a dude and no dohickey your a girl. Even if they want to change it they are still the gender they are born with. When that person was conceived they where either a boy or a girl so even if you change you are still either a boy or a girl. Nothing else... If you were a fungus it would be different....
ChaosLupus says2016-09-11T00:09:13.387
@ ThePostMarxist

There actually is. http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change

In fact, transgenderism was classified as such until recently, when the PC community got ridiculously out of control. And to this day, things like transableism and species dysphoria are still classified as such. We shouldn't be promoting mental disorders.
Wolfram says2016-09-11T02:02:09.703
Agreed, Chaoslupus.
ThePostMarxist says2016-09-11T09:11:23.753
It was classified as such because people were idiots and didn't understand that people with different identifications don't do any harm
ChaosLupus says2016-09-11T15:56:23.083
A mental disorder doesn't have to cause harm to other people. Most schizophrenics aren't violent, for example.
HeavenlyPanda says2016-09-13T00:53:23.123
So you think that a mental disorder should be considered as a third gender?
ThePostMarxist says2016-09-13T08:28:54.050
"Mental disorder". It causes no harm to society and it doesn't, quite frankly, affect you. The only person it effects is the person who identifies as the said gender. Thus I do not believe it should be considered a mental disorder, the psychiatry field is famous for its need to label everything as a disorder and this is no different
ChaosLupus says2016-09-13T15:37:20.423
@ ThePostMarxist

Like I just said, a mental disorder doesn't have to directly affect other people. That is in no way, shape, or form, a qualifying factor. The vast majority of mentally ill people aren't violent. That doesn't mean that you should feed into it, you're only harming those people by doing so. It's like telling a schizophrenic that the voices they keep hearing are really there.
ThePostMarxist says2016-09-14T12:25:00.263
But it doesn't harm them. They don't harm themselves, or others, by identifying a different way
ChaosLupus says2016-09-14T15:24:42.007
Completely false.

First of all, people who undergo sexual reassignment are literally consenting to have their own genitals mutilated. And no, that doesn't actually change your gender, you still have the same chromosomes as before, it's just an attempt at replicating something. Many go on to regret the surgery. According to both Vanderbilt University and London Portman Clinic, about 75% of people who experienced transgender feelings eventually lost them.

Secondly, the suicide rate among transgendered people is staggeringly high (over 40% attempt it). A lot of that is the result of societal pressures, yes, but the rate increases even further post-surgery.

You can't honestly say that promoting a mental disorder is a good thing when it's not even permanent for 75% of the people who have it, and 40% of the rest try to kill themselves.
SuperAwesomeMusician says2017-05-16T22:53:45.857
Your gender is not influenced by psychology. The gender you are born with is the gender you stay with.
KeenanW says2018-05-06T15:24:39.567
"I am a gender non-conformist in theory". I really hope you get the help you need
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