Until truth is recognized to exceed opinion and believed to possess an absolute nature and absolute values, the hope of unity will remain ever elusive as truth will remain undefinable and a perpetual war of opinion will dictate belief itself.

Asked by: simpleman
Until truth is recognized to exceed opinion and believed to possess an absolute nature and absolute values, the hope of unity will remain ever elusive as truth will remain undefinable and a perpetual war of opinion will dictate belief itself.
  • If you don't believe in absolute truth, stop trying to convince me it doesn't exist

    I admit that absolute truth may not exist, but I'm not as interested in whether or not it actually exists as I am in the consequences of believing or not believing that absolute truth exists.

    Let's ignore the obvious contradiction in the statement "There is no absolute truth" and consider the perspective of someone who refuses to believe in absolute truth. The first thing we feel when placing ourselves in this perspective is meaninglessness. If there is no truth, then why would we bother trying to explain that truth doesn't exist? We have no basis with which to claim that this concept is wrong. Why would we even care about what someone else's opinion on truth was? If we believe there is no concept of truth, then from our perspective, someone who believes in truth is just as "right" as we are.

    Now, if we start with the assumption (and yes, it is an assumption) that there is absolute truth, we have a starting point to begin discussing what this absolute truth is. There is a mutual agreement between us that says "I understand that you and I both believe there is such a thing as absolute truth." We are not debating what that absolute truth is, just agreeing that it exists. What we believe that truth to be will be subject to out opinions, but it is very, very important to understand that what that truth is, is not subject to change when we change our opinions. It is truly absolute. We are all merely making our best guess as to what this absolute truth really is.

    Without this mutual agreement, there is no basis to debate.

  • Yeah you are talking about thruth, hehehe very courages indeed, let's see

    What about the truth of the following statement:

    "This statament is false"


    If the statement is true that means it is false at the same time
    If the statement is false then it is true at the same time

    So basically from a logical point of view it is neither true or false.This beautiful conclusion came from mathematics, thought to be the most precise and truthful of all science. And yet in 1930 Gödel proved that a non trivial mathematical system can always be falsified (that is something as the contradiction above emerges). As a consequence in mathematics you cannot prove everything there will always be awkward situations. The implications can be so profound that maybe the theory of everything doesn't even exist (i.E. We cannot explain the world because it has inherent randomness).

    In the case of social science where not even measurement is precise and well defined can you remotely suggest a absolute truth, because even if you could measure very precisely every event, you would find undecidable cases where the truth is a useless concept.

    In conclusion, the concept of truth is created by men and therefore it is not perfect, not absolute and you are never going to get to a state of perpetual truth, that is a utopia.

  • People can compromise over their opinions

    It's called being pragmatic. Just because people disagree doesn't mean they can't decide to compromise and negotiate. It doesn't require absolute truth or absolute values or anything. "Absolute" is just a pretty word used on gullible people to get them to do someone's bidding. Beware anyone who claims they have the "absolute" truth.

  • Absolute Truth is Unattainable

    Truth is an illusive concept. We determine our reality through reason. The structure of reason is based on logical conclusions based upon axioms. Axioms can never be proven. "Truths" are those axioms, but they can never be fully realized. All we can do is attempt to align our own reality with that of reality around us, but we can never know truth.

    If a society is centered around belief in absolute truth, then the society is fundamentally flawed. It is a religious cult believing in false assumptions and thus making false absolute conclusions about the world around them. Unity must be achieved through world-wide acceptance of not knowing anything for sure. It is belief in truths that lead to religious wars, ignorance and cognitive dissonance which result in the majority of the issues in the world today.

  • Dude, get to the point

    Nobody is going to have the attention-span to read through that whole thing and leave an opinion because its way too damn long and pretty meaningless. Shorten to whatever the hell it is youre talking about otherwise the only thing people will notice is that you cant use punctuation... Balls

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