Was Abraham Lincoln the greatest President of all time?

  • Sorry but no cigar!

    Abraham Lincoln's "bright thinking" led to his depression, and later death. When George Washington and his army won the American Revolution, he was not hated for it. When Abraham Lincoln abolished slavery, and ended the civil war, he was Hated for it, and die in one of the worst ways!

  • The best YEAH!!!!

    A lot of people say that Lincoln was a bad president but he did a lot of good things. Lincoln had stopped slavery. Slavery had killed many people when they were running away. If Lincoln was a bad president, the United States would have never existed. Thanks to him, we are not seperated.

  • He Abolished Slavery and STOPPED THE WAR plus he was assinated

    He saved our continent by putting in the 13th amendment and the emancipation proclamation tht freed the slaves.WHT WOULD WE BE WITHOUT LINCLON!!!!!! SLAVERY,HALF A NATION AND WAR. The War would cause more lives to be lost.To make a UNITED UNION.Abraham Linclon was the most mourned president so HE IS THE BEST đź‘Ť

  • Preserved the Union and freed the slaves

    Lincoln was an honest man clearly shown by his characteristic as a lawyer who refused to take on cases that would cause him to lie. Of modest origins he became the President and from thereon he was a great commander-in-chief and succeeded where president Davis had failed. With his vision and leadership the union came out of the war victorious and the slaves freed.

  • Lincoln was the best

    He freed the slaves and overall took charge for what was right and even if he did avoid the constitution he needed to in order to accomplish what was truely right for the country as a whole. He definitely the greatest president in my opinion. He was a lover and a fighter!

  • Preserve the Union

    He held the union together during the most devastating war in American History. Not a lot of presidents could have been able to accomplish such a feat. Without his outstanding leadership, the United States might still be divided into 2 separate nations today and slavery would have been abolished much later in the U.S.

  • Lincoln preserved US

    Without the work of Abraham Lincoln, we would be divided into at least two different nations. He was also one of the best leaders to ever live on the planet. He's probably the bestest person who has ever lived on the face of the earth. Abe is a babe. Peace.

  • In the times of crisis, one must strip a criminial's liberties

    Lincoln saved the Union, brought back the South, ensured that something like that will never happen again, and abolished slavery. What is also impressive is that he acted as a general and came up with an actual strategy to defeat the confederates, in the anaconda plan. Ever since the genesis of America, the slavery question was being ignored. The country was expanding, and other people such as Henry Clay would only temporarily halt tensions regarding slavery. You even had the few Presidents before Lincoln who literally allowed things to get out of hand. Lincoln was the man who actually said "This is enough." He was the President who took on the challenge of finally solving the inevitable dispute that was lurking since the Constitution was being signed. As for the cons arguments, I see two main points: He took away liberties, led a bloody war, and abused his power. First of all, the confederates that he took away liberties from were criminals who no longer considered themselves part of the Union. Remember, it was technically not yet unconstitutional to secede from the Union, so it was unclear whether or not they should have been given rights such as habeus corpus. As for the second argument: the North wanted to abolish slavery. Uncle Tom's Cabin played a role in that. It wasn't just Lincoln. Had he not gone to war with the South, then we would only have half of a country today. The South was already armed with heavy artillery ready to fight against the North. So the man in charge should not be blamed for going down there and setting them straight, which is what the people wanted anyway. As for abusing his powers, most of that pertains to him stripping the criminals' rights, and like I said, they probably did not have those rights. And if he did not "abuse" his powers, the Civil War would not have been as efficient, and probably would have taken longer to finish, resulting in even more deaths.

  • Abraham Lincoln: The Right man for the Job

    Lincoln saved the union and freed the slaves. Many amateur historians erroneously blame him for the start of the war. What Lincoln knew, having a better sense of his own times than we do, was that the South was pushing inexorably to make slavery permanently legal, a binding part of the constitution itself. There would be no more compromise. All compromising presidents were considered ineffective and weak anyway. Like Pierce and Buchanan. Judge Andrew B. Taney proved the South's resolve with his decision in the Dredd Scott case. The South was always willing to fight to preserve slavery, and had shown outright violence against northerners in proving it. Lincoln had merely expressed the basic truth, that the Declaration of Independence was true. All men ARE created equal. Imagine that! That's what the amatuers say started the Civil War. Lincoln also showed, though, that he possessed the iron will and convictions to keep the union together by winning the war, and eradicating slavery altogether. But Lincoln was not just a great war president. He was the consummate wordsmith. He rallied a nation with his eloquence. His ability to nutshell the heart of democracy is unparalleled. If a lesser man had taken office, the South would probably have won a longer war, that killed even more Americans. The United States would have been fractured into two or more weakened nation-states. And it would probably have not been strong enough to have a major impact in winning either of the two world wars. Yes, Lincoln was the only man that could have done what few others in history could have accomplished. His achievements ended slavery much sooner than it would have otherwise. If Lincoln hadn't ended slavery, it would have lasted much longer, even if it did eventually die out, and blacks and other minorities would probably have had to wait much longer than the 1960s for a civil rights movement. This would have set nearly everyone's civil rights back, maybe 50 to 100 years, because the black civil rights movement fathered the other movements.

  • Modern Day Lincoln

    Not many other presidents have gotten the privilege to be on our televisions to entertain us. Lincoln, on the other hand, has been in several movies and books that we use in our daily lives. He has not just been a president in many. Recently, a movie came out called "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Slayer," there are not many films that come out into theaters about history of our presidents, but Lincoln has succeeded in being the "USA"s greatest president and therefore deserves movies and books about his presidency.

  • Not by a long shot

    He may in fact be the most overrated president of all time though. He violated the Constitution by suspending habeus coprus and forcing the Southern states to stay, thereby violating their right to leave. People will argue that he ended slavery but this also is untrue. The emancipation proclamation only applied to the Southern states who didn't recognize him as president, and not the border states that had slaves. He even at one point made the claim that his number one goal was to keep the nation together and if ending slavery was how he should do it then so be it or if not ending slavery was the way to do it then he would do that.

  • No he was not the greatest

    He was an great president that had a huge impact on our lives today but he was definitely not the greatest. He burned down the south, showed a great disregard for civil liberates and probably caused a war that lead to an enormous death count because of his stubbornness. He also imprisoned those who spoke out against him and did not believe in his decisions.

  • Hell No.

    This is ridiculous.

    He started a war that cost over 3 million lives over an issue that would have withered away anyway. And he murdered many innocent people along the way.

    But that wasn't his only act of evil. He ordered bounties of Sioux tribesmens' heads.

    He elected generals who were complete scumbags who burned the South to the ground.

    He did many unconstitutional things. He suspended the writ of habeas corpus without the consent of Congress (as required by the Constitution).

    He had duly elected State representatives illegally jailed without charges. He locked up people who did not agree with him; dictatorial.

    He invaded the South without the consent of Congress as required by the Constitution, thats a war crime.

    He blockaded Southern ports without a delclaration of war, as required by the Constitution, thats another war crime.

    He confiscated private property, including firearms, in violation of the Second Amendment; and effectively gutted the Tenth and Ninth Amendments as well.

    He illegally deported a member of Congress after said congressman criticized his unconstitutional behavior.

    All and all, Lincoln was a dictatorial, unconstitutional scumbag who just loved power. He didn't care about freeing the slaves.

  • Great President, not the greatest.

    There is no doubt that Abraham Lincoln was an incredible man and president alike, yet there cannot be the highest praise for a man that ripped a country apart. Almost all presidents after Lincoln would have done no different, but because of the events and context of his presidency, it can be argued that all he did was start a war against an obvious evil that most nations had already abandoned. He set divisions and extreme sectionalism that still exist today. Also, Lincoln did nothing towards efforts of reformation after slavery while expanding the executive power during his reign. I believe either FDR, Tommy Jeff, and G Dubbs deserve some recognition in the greatest category. All respect Abe!

  • There is no greatest.

    As many have stated, it is hard to measure the repercussion, let alone a standard to allow comparisons. There is no true criteria, and to be objective would be to eliminate preferences, understand context that would easily eliminate the need of buttressing actions with one's own political credos. I would still nominate Lincoln as one of the best presidents, but there's a vague criteria for THE best that I wouldn't want to cross without my personal preferences and measurements getting in my way.

  • No.

    Abraham Lincoln was a great president, having played a major role in the abolishing of slavery. But he was not necessarily the best. I think the question should be "Was Abraham Lincoln a good president?" I would vote yes to that question. otherwise, Ronald Reagan was my favorite.

  • What...?

    Completely unconstitutional and abused rights. He imprisoned or silenced people who apposed him and was probably racist (yes). He sent people to prison without a trial and was never justified in his attacking the south (which was not to end slavery.) He cost us an enormous amount of deaths in the war and slavery would have ended any way. He also largely increased the governments authority. Power monger.

  • Absolutely horrible, possibly the worst

    1. Lincoln is responsible for beginning the war with the Confederacy after provoking the CSA to attack Ft. Sumter (a base which had the potential to cripple trade in Charleston) by aggressively reinforcing Ft. Pickens in Pensacola and trying to reinforce Sumter. Trying to avoid a repeat of Pensacola, the CSA (after politely asking the defenders to leave) launched a barrage of the fort which, despite resulting in a whopping zero injuries, Lincoln whipped up and used as a pretense to invade the CSA and start an unnecessary war.
    2. Lincoln unconstitutionally invaded the South without consulting Congress, and instead tried to bully the state governors to provide him with troops (resulting in TN, VA, AR, and NC seceding).
    3. Lincoln tyrannically violated constitutional freedoms- starting with the right of due process by trying civilians in military tribunals while civilian courts were open- in order to assert control over the border states.
    4. Lincoln unconstitutionally suspended Habeas Corpus and began issuing arbitrary arrests (the Constitution only allows suspension of HC in times where the US is invaded or the government is in existential danger).
    5. Lincoln issued a warrant for the arrest of Supreme Court Chief Justice Roger Taney after Taney ruled that Lincoln's suspension of HC was unconstitutional.
    6. Lincoln arrested and deported Congressman Clement Vallandigham for his vocal opposition to the war.
    7. Lincoln condoned various war crimes committed against the CSA in the form of the Sacking of Atlanta by Sherman, the March to the Sea, and Sherridan's Shenandoah Valley campaigns which resulted in $billions in civilian damage.

    Economically, Lincoln was a disaster.
    1. He invented the income tax we all know and loathe via the Revenue Act of 1861 (which was, btw, unconstitutional as the Constitution bans direct taxation)
    2. He reformed the central bank via the Banking Acts of 1863 so as to centralize the government's monopoly on the money supply. Ultimately, he needed money for the war and created the national bank to start printing money to pay for the war. The resulting inflation hurt poor farmers in Kentucky, Ohio, Missouri, and Kansas since inflation is basically just a regressive tax.
    3. Lincoln's economic policies were almost exclusively favoritism towards the northern industrial class at the expense of the poor. His public spending and homestead acts were designed to benefit northern manufacturers at the expense of farmer by paying for their infrastructure and lowering the price of cotton using farmers' tax dollars.

    Lastly, Lincoln was also extremely racist as seen by his "Panama Plan" to deport free blacks to Panama since he did't believe racial harmony was possible. No joke, his rationale was that Panama was a jungle and blacks love the jungle. How messed up is that?

  • Was the worst President in U.S. history

    He was a criminal...
    Failed to call Congress into session after the South fired upon Fort Sumter, in direct violation of the Constitution.
    Called up an army of 75,000 men, bypassing the Congressional authority in direct violation of the Constitution.
    Unilaterally suspended the writ of habeas corpus, a function of Congress, violating the Constitution. This gave him the power, as he saw it, to arrest civilians without charge and imprison them indefinitely without trial—which he did.
    Ignored a Supreme Court order to restore the right of habeas corpus, thus violating the Constitution again and ignoring the Separation of Powers which the Founders put in place exactly for the purpose of preventing one man’s using tyrannical powers in the executive.
    When the Chief Justice forwarded a copy of the Supreme Court’s decision to Lincoln, he wrote out an order for the arrest of the Chief Justice and gave it to a U.S. Marshall for expedition, in violation of the Constitution.
    Unilaterally ordered a naval blockade of southern ports, an act of war, and a responsibility of Congress, in violation of the Constitution.
    Commandeered and closed over 300 newspapers in the North, because of editorials against his war policy and his illegal military invasion of the South. This clearly violated the First Amendment freedom of speech and press clauses.
    Sent in Army forces to destroy the printing presses and other machinery at those newspapers, in violation of the Constitution.
    Arrested the publishers, editors and owners of those newspapers, and imprisoned them without charge and without trial for the remainder of the war, all in direct violation of both the Constitution and the Supreme Court order aforementioned.
    Arrested and imprisoned, without charge or trial, another 15,000-20,000 U.S. citizens who dared to speak out against the war, his policies, or were suspected of anti-war feelings. (Relative to the population at the time, this would be equivalent to President G.W. Bush arresting and imprisoning roughly 150,000-200,000 Americans without trial for “disagreeing” with the Iraq war; can you imagine?)
    Sent the Army to arrest the entire legislature of Maryland to keep them from meeting legally, because they were debating a bill of secession; they were all imprisoned without charge or trial, in direct violation of the Constitution.
    Unilaterally created the state of West Virginia in direct violation of the Constitution.
    Sent 350,000 Northern men to their deaths to kill 350,000 Southern men in order to force the free and sovereign states of the South to remain in the Union they, the people, legally voted to peacefully withdraw from, all in order to continue the South’s revenue flow into the North.

  • He is praised because he keep states United, but the truth is, that it was he who caused the Civil War

    Well, he just ignored the South's interest in his campaign. It was a populism which destroyed the country. The slavery should have been gone away in other, more peaceful way. While president should represent all country, Lincoln didn't even try to represent South.

    Lincoln isn't a guy who won the Civil War. If we compare North and South's economics and human potentials, we can see that it was easy. Lincoln is a person, who caused it.

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