Most people say the Confederacy was the bad guys because they hated Black people. That's not true. The Confederacy had many, many Black soldiers who WILLINGLY took up arms for the cause of Southern freedom. They were treated as well as the white soldiers, and were paid as much as they were due as according to their rank and status. They were respected, and treated well. The Confederacy waged war in self defense. The "Glorious" Union attacked us first. We were fighting in self defense. In defense of our freedom, our independence, and our great way of life. The tyrant, Abraham Lincoln, didn't even care about abolishing slavery. Jefferson Davis did however.
My family fought for the confederacy as they were from Virginia, and we still believe the confederates were right in fighting to free themselves from an oppressive government. During the late 1850 and early 60s, there was something called the Morrill Tariff, which raised a tax much higher in the south than in the north, this was passed by "the amazing" Mr. Lincoln during his first term. This was completely unjust and that is another reason the south seceded. Only 10% of the southern population held slaves so if you say it was over the right to slaves, you would be incorrect. Not only were they fighting against the tariff, but also FOR state's rights inn which they could nullify the tariff. Mr. Lincoln was a tyrant and should not be given the glory he is given today, he was an oppressor. I do not think that the Union was right and will be proud of my confederate heritage.
A lot of people believe that the confederacy was wrong simply because that is what the yanks told them in schools and textbooks. This is simply not true. My family also fought for Virginia and it was because lincoln had raised an army to invade his own country. How dictorial does that sound. My family could not bring themselves to invade their own state and country. Schools have put it in kids minds that the war was on slavery and because the confederacy had slaves, that makes them racist. That is not true. My family now lives in Ohio and i se it everyday in our history classes. They dont even give you a confederate perspective. They immediatly tell you its slavery, slavery, and slavery. That is rediculous. We were INVADED by lincoln. The south was right and they should have won.
When the Confederacy broke away there were still loyal union soldiers, West Virginia was created for that very example, and if this issue is on slavery of them being called bad then Thomas Jefferson and James Madison would be considered the bad guys also. In every country there are the privileged and underprivileged, some forget the 5 border states of the union
Like the many Jeffersonian democrats that rallied before them, the notions of state's rights, state sovereignty, and nullification reigned among the most important virtues to Southerners of the mid 1800s in American politics. The South legally separated themselves from the tyrannical Union to uphold the doctrine of State's Rights. This political ideology stated that there are certain constitutional rights reserved solely to the individual states ( such as the right to maintain a way of life, keep CONSTITUTIONAL property, freely expand into the western territories, and seek liberation from unlawful tariffs and taxation), and if a central government threatens, opposes, or interferes with these State's Rights it is the duty of the people to abolish it and institute a new government. It is upon this premise the Confederate patriots stood. In December of 1860, Robert Augustus Toombs, of the Georgia legislature, stated that, "The basis, the corner-stone of this Government was the perfect equality of the free, sovereign, independent States which made it". When Southern rights were threatened, secession soon followed.
All the confederacy tried to do was preserve the rights of their citizens. The slaves LIKED being slaves, and that's all they were good for. They would have been perfectly happy if the union hadn't interfered with all that 'abolitionist' nonsense. Besides, it was the union that required the cotton.
They weren't going to kill anyone over secession. The North were the ones who decided they needed to take over the confederacy and they are the ones to blame for all the deaths and casualties of the war. They started the war out of aggression . That's why the appropriate name for the war is the war of northern aggression
It's horrible to see Americans demonizing the Confederacy simply because the slavery myth.
The Confederates were the only ones that were respecting the US Constitution (which was and is the Supreme Law of the Land). King Abraham Lincoln and his cronies regularly violated our Constitution during the Civil War, and committed many illegal acts. Unlike Abraham Lincoln, the Confederate government did not imprison almost 30,000 Americans without due process in order to suppress internal anti-war and anti-draft dissent. The Tenth Amendment protected states' rights like the nullification of federal laws. It was the Declaration of Independence that said The People have the natural right to abolish an unjust government and set up a new one for the people, by the people.
Like every armed conflict in human history, the American Civil War was all about money, greed, and power. The agricultural South had the money, and the industrial North had the greed and power. The Yankees wanted the Southern money so they unlawfully took it by imposing taxes and tariffs on the South. During the Election of 1860, Abraham Lincoln didn't even campaign in the South, even his name didn't appear on the ballot in Southern states. The South no longer felt represented in the Union. That is why South Carolina seceded from the Union after Lincoln was elected. Don't you people remember the phrase "Taxation Without Representation?" This all sounds familiar doesn't it?
After the C.S.A was formed, they sent a peace delegation to Washington D.C to establish diplomatic relations. Too bad that good ole Abe refused to meet with the delegation, and turned down every peace proposal offered by the Confederate gov't. And then there is Fort Sumter. Just a federal military installation located in South Carolina's backyard that threatened Confederate ships. The Union refused the Confederacy's ultimatum to leave Fort Sumter or else they would bomb it. So much for the outlandish notion that the South instigated the war unprovoked.
About slavery? Both sides considered slavery to be a minor issue. Abe Lincoln didn't want to abolish slavery, he just wanted to stop its expansion. He cared more about preserving the Union. Most Southerners didn't even own slaves. Only the rich could afford slaves. Confederate soldiers cared more about their states than possessing ownership of another human being. Even Southern politicians and generals like Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee disliked the very institution of slavery.
History is written by the victor. The North won and wrote their version of the story. Just because government funded and controlled public school system teaches that the Confederacy only defended slavery doesn't make it anymore true than the existence of monsters living under your bed.
Slavery is terrible, yes. That is clear. However, the war was not started on the issue of slavery, rather that "cause" was later introduced by the North, and made the South look life the "bad guys." Therefore that moral point is null. The only moral point we are left with is why the war started in the first place: states' rights. This country was founded on the principle of freedom and a desire for self-governance. That is what the south fought for. This is not a hypocritical point for the south because the north was objectively no more concerned with freeing the slaves than the south. The biggest hypocritical move, rather, was by the North when it declared that no state had the right to secede. The North therefore took away people's right to self-governance, and spat in the face of our founding fathers, who founded this country on the ideal that a people have the right to secede from their government (the British Empire, at that point), and govern themselves.
Let me explain this.Where was the first battle of the Civil War? Anyone with a brain in their skull would say: "Fort Sumpter, South Carolina." OK, so if the Civil War was a Dispute over slavery, Why did the Rebels fire the first shots? I am so sick of the Bulls*it about the yanks "freeing" the slaves, its just dumb. Kentucky was a slave state but was also apart of the Union! Back to my 1st point, if you wanted to defend something, why go on the offensive?
Let's look at the argument of the only person who somehow said yes to this rather straightforwardly 'no' topic.
"Most people say the Confederacy was the bad guys because they hated Black people. That's not true."
Of course. They didn't hate black people, because they were too busy forcing them to do backbreaking, sickening work in the middle of the hot noontime sun picking cotton, a task which is not as easy as it sounds. They can't afford to hate black people, because they practically required them as slaves to fuel their primitive, agriculture-driven lives.
"The Confederacy had many, many Black soldiers who WILLINGLY took up arms for the cause of Southern freedom."
Lemme tell ya why they did that. The Confederate States of America denied African American soldiers basic human rights and liberties. Instead, it promised to "free" them if they fought for the CSA. That's why. They willingly took up arms so they could be free from their unwilling slave work.
"They were treated as well as the white soldiers, and were paid as much as they were due as according to their rank and status."
This made me LOL. Are you kidding me? Source please, or African American soldiers were mistreated, abused, not given enough rations, and viewed as inferior, as many dozens of African American soldiers of the CSA wrote about in their journals and books.
"They were respected, and treated well."
Really now. Refer to what I said above.
"The Confederacy waged war in self defense. The "Glorious" Union attacked us first. We were fighting in self defense."
I'm interested in where the heck you learned history. The Confederacy was the aggressor. The United States fortifications at Fort Sumter were bombarded by Confederate forces without any provocation on April 12, 1861, thus starting the war. Seriously now.
"We were fighting in self defense. In defense of our freedom, our independence, and our great way of life."
That's rich. Of course you fought for your "freedom" and your "independence". At the same time, you denied those very same things to your African American population, who were forced to do all your brutal, backbreaking slave work. They didn't have the "freedom" or "independence" to leave.
Let's see if you still say it's a 'great way of life' if you were an African American slave in the Southern states, forced to do brutal work the whole day without breaks or pay, whipped by white slave owners who did absolutely nothing and merely laid back and reaped the harvest.
"The tyrant, Abraham Lincoln, didn't even care about abolishing slavery. Jefferson Davis did however."
Again. Who was your history teacher? They should be condemned. Jefferson Davis and the Confederacy practically went to war to protect their "freedom" to own slaves. Meanwhile, Abraham Lincoln made very public speeches like the Emancipation Proclamation that were very clearly anti-slavery.
Please go and learn about the Civil War before ranting about a subject you clearly do not understand well, or at all.
There is no way that they are the good guys. They wanted to keep their way of life, and that was slavery. If the "Attacking North" took that away from them, there economy would diminish. Slavery was there way of making money on plantations and they were screwed when slavery was abolished. Enslaving a whole race of people is wrong. No matter what the circumstances.
How can one say that the south were the "good guys" when they are the ones that completely initiated the conflict in the first place? The North's culture evolved to the point where they realized the horrible morals of having slaves, even for a profit, so they decided to disband it. Now, the South didn't like that, because they were making so much money off of the cotton that their slaves were producing, and were too , for lack of a better word, "lazy" to do anything by themselves.
The south seceded from the union because they wanted to keep slaves, their bullsh*t excuse was 'states rights' but anyone with four brain cells knows that they really seceded to keep their slaves. Anybody who would attempt to dissolve a great nation for the sole intention of ensuring that the enslavement of an entire race were to stay enslaved, then those people are clearly 'the bad guys' in the equation.....
Let's look at the facts:
The Confederates wanted to keep their slaves. Yes, the war was about other things too but if it wasn't for the slavery issue do you really think they would've had the motivation?
The Confederates attacked first. Lincoln basically stayed out of the way (while still declaring that the South was still a part of the United States) until they attacked Fort Sumpter. Did the South make the forts and fund them? No, so what gave them the idea they had a right to them? If they wanted independence so badly they should've offered the North the right to dismantle all its property in the South brick by brick and take it to the North instead of insisting on seizing it. I'm curious to know how Lincoln would've responded to that offer.
And in retrospect:
South splits away. How would the US handle the world wars? Granted this could've wound up OK if it stopped WWI was going as it did since that result set the stage for WWII. But assuming WWI still turns out the same then the US has less territory and resources to wage WWII with and there's a big possibility that Hitler would've been able to ally with the South. Not good (unless you think (in the sense of opine) that that sort of thing is good, I don't).
The confederates could never have been considered the good guys in the civil war.They supported slavery which many would consider one of the worse sins ever and they wanted to split the union up which could also be considered a pretty bad sin considering it was important to Lincoln that the union stay together.
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The civil war started when the south invaded Fort Sumter, and the North was not keeping slaves. To say that to own another human, to torture them to do work that you are too lazy to do, is absurd and inhumane. Also, the North didn't start the war, the South did. What makes you better than blacks? Why should whites be better? Our skin is lighter? That is straight up stupidity.
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The confederates wished to break away from and disunite the United States of America over the issue of States rights. The right that they felt was being infringed upon was the "right" to have slaves. Slavery is evil, and although slavery was not the sole purpose of the entire war, it was the root cause. Lincoln did originally say that he wished to keep the Union together above everything, whether this meant freeing the slaves or keeping them in slavery. However, when the time came he did free the slaves. A wish to keep a country united is not aggressive, and the reason for secession was a wish to have the right to have slaves, which is aggressive. To those who say that slavery was "not that bad," this is a lie. Ask anyone who actually had ancestors who were slaves. Look at evidence that isn't biased. Slavery was horrible, and the wish to keep it for any reason is not justified. Forcing people to work under horrible conditions for little to no pay is completely unacceptable and cruel. Do you think that slaves would have run away and fought with the Union if slavery was enjoyable? As for slaves fighting in the Confederate Army, nearly all historians agree that there were little to no black people who fought in the Confederate army. This idea of the "black Confederate Soldier" is mostly stemmed from myths and attempts to glaze over the rougher parts of Southern History. https://newsela.com/articles/civilwar-blacksoldiers/id/13744/ While I understand that neither side was perfect and both sides had faults, the Union was in the right.