• What is Socialism?

    Unfortunately, Decades of misguided attempts to establish socialism with the state, Successful but ultimately defeated attempts to establish communes, And Cold War propaganda has lead to the redefinition of the term "socialism" by several sources.

    Socialism, At its core, Is an economic system in which property is owned by the people that use it. In the case of a business, This would be the employees, And not the employer, Who would own the business under capitalism. This is what I mean when I say that I am a socialist.

    With this definition, You might notice some interesting things. The free market is not incompatible with socialism, And socialist business models in the form of worker cooperatives do exist today, Under capitalism.

    Why not just start your own cooperative? Well, With enough time and resources, I could. The issue I take with capitalism, However, Is the existence and popularity of businesses controlled in an authoritarian manner.

    This is a bit of a simplification, But the job of a factory owner is to buy resources and labor at low prices, And resell them for higher prices. This not only harms the wages and work ethic of employees, But takes control over their own work life away from them. It's a scam.

  • An economic model, But also an ideology

    Except that sadly, Due to intense propaganda, Most people even refuse to consider it. So I'm going to try and explain it as good as I can.

    Socialism is a system created to oppose capitalism. That's why a lot of work by Marx is more about critisizing capitalism than it's counterpart socialism itself. While capitalism has profit at it's very core and supplying (some) people with food and shelter is only a side effect, Socialism focuses on giving people what they need to survive. That's the main goal of socialism, Basically.

    Now, Within socialism, There are different categories - just like capitalism can be executed in many different ways. There is communism - where there is no state and people literally just. . . Live in communities and share everything with one another. It's also referred to as stateless socialism - or, Because many often forget the difference between socialism and communism and to empathize that difference - stateless communism. True communism also doesn't have any money.
    Then there's Marxism - which is communism but with a state that isn't too controlling and cares for the people more than for power. Sadly, Attempts at this usually ended in the government becoming corrupt, Which brings us to. . .
    Stalinism. The good old dictator kind of socialism that people absolutely hate - and rightfully so, Since it has caused so many deaths. But most people who call themselves socialist nowadays aren't actually for what Stalin has done, Within the socialist communiyt people actually call those people who want an authoritarian government with socialism are called "tankies" (as an insult).

    What most people have in mind is Stalin, When thinking about communism and socialism. But in fact, That as just one of many attempts and one of the worst ones. With every try it gets better - I mean look at Cuba. Yes, It still censors way too much and the conditions aren't as good as in NA for example (although capitalism in those regions hasn't worked out much better either, Has it? Look at Mexico), But people are becoming doctors out of passion and not for money. Look at how many medical profesionals they're sending out to help people! That's a big impovement from the Soviet Union. Although, The Soviet Union was socialist while Cuba is currently socialist but is planning to achieve communism.

    But even without this moral superiority of socialism, It will probably eventually prevail because no amount of propaganda and restrictions to the free market will solve the inherent contradictions within capitalism. Marx couldn't care less about morals, He just saw how capitalism - due to it's very core - will eventually fall apart. Capitalists will keep exploiting their workers until people start a revolution and redistribute the wealth, And this will happen even if we add restrictions. We'd still be exploiting the 3. World and people from there would flee here unless we fix what we made.

    It's not that communism is that much better, It's that there's no other choice.

  • 'what is socialism"

    The question is not "does socialism work"

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  • What is socialism?

    Socialism in an economic system where the means of production are collectivized, Either through cooperatives or through the State. It can also mean the ideology that tries to establish socialism. In Marxist theory it also means the transitional stage between capitalism and communism. Another common characteristics of socialism can include production for need rather than for profit, Abolition of wage labor, Absence of private property, Democracy at the workplace, Etc.

    Some common misconceptions about socialism are that many people think of private property as the only type of property. Socialists classify property whether is private, Public, Collective or personal. Another one is that socialism does not necessarily require a State, Like in libertarian socialism and anarchism.

    Socialists believe that capitalism in not only inherently harmful, But also unstable. There are contradictions that are written into capitalism that eventually it will lead to its collapse, Such as the workers not being payed the full value of their labor. Socialists also believe that society problems like poverty, Starvation, Unemployment, Crime, Etc. Come from capitalism and can only be solved by replacing it with socialism.

  • Socialism is a result in the breakdown of the losing government.

    Socialism is a result of the deliberate attempt to break down the upper class of the taxpayers. The Socialist Government begin by redistributing the wealth to keep the taxpayers hands out of their own pockets - and end up attempting to reshuffle the money back to the responsible people who are economically proficient, In order to build and preserve their financial bass.

    Most of the time the Socialist Military and government attempt to create their own base and supporting financial groups and this takes violence, Theft, And force to maintain the control of the flow of money continues to be flowing from society who only give support to the existing government. The Catholic Organization - a socialist system that embeds itself into governments around the world but it is not the same as giving Your own money to help anyone - and then returning back to Your job and suffering a loss by the donations and giving's that You have given freely. The Vatican gets their money back and keeps growing as they continue to grow in wealth and riches and have been running the same system for hundreds of years.


    The Article 13 of the Reichskonkordat between Nazi Germany ( Hitler ) and the Vatican, Hitler guaranteed in His contract with the Vatican - that the right of the Catholic Church to levy taxes would be guaranteed in Germany - And Hitler also guaranteed that the Catholic Church would not be held responsible for debts to German businesses. ( Concerning Vatican Properties and accounts. )

    They wanted to be treated like German Government Officials on the payroll of the taxpayers. No debts, No Fees, And no reimbursements for failed and collapsed businesses would be allowed to seize Catholic / Vatican Socialist Government Properties to be reimbursed.

    An eternal Socialist state and condition Catholic debt - that can only be collected and - only - be Re - Paid by the taxpayers - to continually flow to repay / reimbursements to the hands of other taxpayers - of whom who the Vatican may owe to. This is THE ONLY Socialism that the VATICAN WILL EVER SUPPORT

    All other forms of Socialism and Communism are to be De-Throned, Vilified, Manipulated, Cheated and Forced to repay the Catholic Church for any Aid, Any Help any Services any Supplies and any Charities that the Catholic Church dispenses to the masses. Their only goal is to embed themselves into every government on earth and EXIST as a SOCIALIST - Government Funded Agency that is legally guaranteed that the Catholic Church would not be held responsible for debts to any Non - Catholic businesses. ( Concerning Vatican Properties and accounts. ) and that - the right of the Catholic Church to receive tax credits for their social services and properties in SOCIALIST SOCIAL SERVICE - SISPENSATIONS // DISPENSATIONS.

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optomeomaiter says2019-01-28T01:38:12.340
What difference would it make in what we call or label or tag as - Socialism?

My response was an attempt to go beyond what one may wish or fantasize Socialism to be and I am seeking to give more details about what socialism is - and what it is not, Because socialism does not stand or exist on it own, . This is the only reality in the end.

Why does “Socialism “ only need to be a system that originates or becomes created only for the purpose to oppose the capitalist system?

If the debate was about " What is Socialism " why did you begin the debate concluding that SOCIALISM is to be a system that originates or becomes created only for the purpose to oppose the capitalist system. " Without Capitalism - we will never know " What is Socialism "

You had already concluded this in Your opening line - the debate was judged by the imaginary wishes of others to project your own opening conclusions upon my entire response. ?

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