Are black lives matter supporters hypocritical if they are for abortion?

Posted by: Dilara

Since 16million black babies have been aborted since roe v wade. 100 unarmed blacks are killed by cops a year but 100,000 unarmed black babies are killer by abortion every year (in the us)

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heil93 says2015-05-31T20:32:29.5023410-05:00
Aborting and shooting blacks helps teach them lessons
Forthelulz says2015-05-31T20:46:49.9766704-05:00
But if they're dead, how do they learn?
Roodvlees says2015-06-01T02:52:48.0492531-05:00
If you want to reduce abortion, you should let women use anti-conception. Works great in the rest of the world (unless it's blocked by religion of course).
Stefy says2015-06-01T08:10:05.5655644-05:00
Its a movement about the police brutality and fairness in the legal system. Bringing in the issue of abortions is not only irrelevant and highly offensive but it just shows how people will go to any lengths making any ridiculous commections they can to shut black people up when they are trying to save themselves from injustice. If you pro choice you dont believe that abortion ends lives so no it isnt the same thing.
Dilara says2015-06-01T17:28:50.2256214-05:00
Stefy. Black lives matter, not just out of the womb but in the womb. I find it strange that the liberal black lives matter people also support abortion even tough it is the number one killer for blacks.
Dilara says2015-06-01T17:41:44.6445793-05:00
Maafa 21 is a documentary about eugenics and racism. It addresses the origins of planned parenthood. Though how a health group PP began as a eugenics group and was founded by a racist women named Margaret Sanger. On page 366 of her autobiography Sanger writes about a klan meeting she attended in silverlake new jersy in 1926. Alan gutmacher their former president was a eugenasist. In the 1960s the prestige by of PP Robert webber wrote an article in a newspaper complaining that the Iowa state eugenics board wasn't doing scourge forced sterilizations. Over 30 states had eugenics boards between 1907 and 1981. These boards approved the sterilize tons of 60,000 Americans sometimes with out their knowledge if consent. People who were poor, unemployed, on welfare for as long time, uneducated or "promiscuous" were the targets of these forced sterilizations. Besides actions (many of witch were out if the victims control) race was taken into account by the eugenasists. Blanks and native Americans were targeted for sterilization a because of their races. One black women named Elaine ridick was forcibly sterilized at 14 by the North Carolina eugenics board. She was not told about it and found out when she as 19. Her illiterate uneducated grandma signed the x on the form not knowing that she was signing off on Elaine's sterilization. Her grandma was told that if she didn't sign the x she wouldn't receive welfare.
Stefy says2015-06-01T21:46:12.5390769-05:00
Its a movement about specifically black lives lost to police brutality and other atrocities not being properly inverstigated and prosecuted as well as other race based injustices that affect the black community. Abortion is not race specific and also incliding it in the movement overgeneralizes it. It is offensive to use a movemnt like Black Lives Matter to further a pro life agenda when that isnt the movements purpose. Its only being ised as a tool to ignore the issues at hand like the ones mentioned above.
TBR says2015-06-02T09:41:03.8127815-05:00
Dilara - Conflating these two issues is just wrong. I could just as easily make the statement that pro-lifers are racist, attempting to disenfranchise a huge number of black women.
Stefy says2015-06-02T12:09:11.2888975-05:00
^ Yeah. You cant bring this topic into a completely unrealted discussion What gets me is the only reason people bring this into a diacussion is to try and get the movement to shut up about the problems they are facing with injustice it isnt because they actually care about black lives matter.
Dilara says2015-06-02T14:02:28.9447392-05:00
You guys know I'm pro life. I care about the 16million black babies who were dismembered. I find it very troubling that the same people who promote the BLM movement support groups like
Dilara says2015-06-02T14:03:49.3499481-05:00
Continued. I am troubled by the fact that BLM supporters often support Planned parenthood witch began as a eugenics group and was founded by a klan member. Read my other comment on maafa 21.
OpinionPersom121 says2015-06-02T16:58:11.4103377-05:00
The most common reason to why people actually use that phrases "Black Lives Matter" is towards police brutality in the world today it's not about whether or not black lives matter towards abortion. And even if it was towards abortion I still disagree that they are hypocritical because it's not a whole communities choice to what people do with their babies and not everyone cares what other people think as well.
Stefy says2015-06-02T17:39:43.1526549-05:00
Dilara: Yeah that may be how it started but now it osnt used for eugenics as a whole its just for promotion of safe sex and access abortions and they no longer have a racial agenda. Its called taking a bad start and turning it into a more positive thing. (even if youre against abortion, its still better than racist eugenics and abortion).
Stefy says2015-06-02T17:40:29.0331372-05:00
And also black lives matter has nothing to do with abortion so the opinions on the subject of its individual participants are irrelevant.
OpinionPersom121 says2015-06-02T17:46:37.8086289-05:00
I agree with Stefy for this
TBR says2015-06-02T18:39:54.7899055-05:00
So... You want to try and tarnish PP because of some views of the founders, and further connect all abortion with "Black Lifes Matter", and you think this is logical?
Dilara says2015-06-03T11:14:35.5103188-05:00
TBR. PP was founded by a women who called blacks human weeds and spoke at klan rally's. Lothrop stoddard their first president attended a personal meeting with hitler in 1939. How could somehow praise Sanger when she outright called blacks human weeds and than claim they believe black lives matter.
TBR says2015-06-03T11:52:22.4441570-05:00
Dilara - You are making connections that simply don't exist. Stoddard has been dead for more than 60 years, Sanger more than 50 years. Their opinions on eugenics is little more than trivia. PlanedParrenthood and organizers of current protests over police treatment of black victims have nothing to do with this. Even putting this junk in the same conversation is nonsensical.
Dilara says2015-06-04T15:53:51.2808070-05:00
TBR. So you are aware that planned parenthood begun as a eugenics group and that it's early members including founder Margaret Sanger were racist?. And praising Sanger a women who called blacks human weeds and spoke at several klan meetings, as PP members and liberals do while claiming you care about blacks is hypocritical right?.
briantheliberal says2015-06-05T11:30:48.1698142-05:00
Dilara, stop pretending to care about black people, and exploiting people's race for your own political gain.
TBR says2015-06-05T11:58:46.2424342-05:00
Saying Planned Parenthood begun as a eugenics group is not accurate, and who has praised Sanger's position on eugenics? Again, I cant see how you can wire all this together in any meaningful way.
Midnight1131 says2015-06-05T12:10:24.2295362-05:00
Dilara's logic - The few people who started the planned parenthood movement were racist, therefore abortion is wrong.
TBR says2015-06-05T12:27:21.4226267-05:00
Midnight1131- Right? Like, America was founded by slave owners, therefore - America is a raciest country. Does that work for you Dilara? I don't know how anyone could praise James Madison, slave owner that he was. Your logic is so faulty.
Dilara says2015-06-05T22:14:27.6009669-05:00
They give out the Margaret Sanger awards yearly. They give awards in the name of a racist women. And not all of the finding fathers were Slave owners. All of PPs first members were racist. I am not saying PP is still racist. I'm saying that praising a klan member while saying black lives matter is hypocritical.
Varrack says2015-06-05T22:18:56.3934292-05:00
I don't understand how this is *not* hypocritical. If the movement is advocating for the life of black people, but support abortion which kills black people...Is that not ironic?
TBR says2015-06-05T22:59:18.1213835-05:00
Dilara - They give out James Madison awards yearly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Madison_Award and....
TBR says2015-06-05T23:00:29.4782178-05:00
Varrack - Are you buying this nonsense? Even as a pro-lifer, you make this connection?
briantheliberal says2015-06-05T23:53:18.3263298-05:00
TBR, what else would you expect from Varrack? We're talking about someone who also doesn't give a damn about people aside from his own political and ethnic demographic and ideology, so really I am not surprised that he would fall for this either.
Dilara says2015-06-21T10:35:52.9515348-05:00
Good job musicrafter

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