@Juan_Pablo, you describe conservatives as being racist, evil, and selfish; yet you don't expect a flame war? It'd be different if you explained how their beliefs are evil, but just throwing out insults is really never going to get you anywhere. That's what Haroush and a few others do - it's disheartening.
''It's not that the Democrats are playing checkers and the Republicans are playing chess. It's that the Republicans are playing chess and the Democrats are in the nurse's office because once again they glued their balls to their thighs.'' —Jon Stewart
They'd see it like this: throughout human history there have been cycles. At times society has been traditional, at other progressive. They knew this. Since we live in a progressive society, they'd see same sex marriage, assisted suicide, and abortion as inevitably becoming legalized.
@Oreo222 The liberal conservative divide is a very recent development as far as US history is concerned. It didn't really take a noticeable shape until FDR and didn't actually become what it is today in its entirety until Reagan. So saying that the founding fathers were liberal is factually wrong. First, because not all the founding fathers were in agreement on how the nation should be run. Second, because the divide back then was centered around Federalism and Urbanization, not any political divide that we use today. And third, because many did fight to keep their traditional values. The colonies were self run for centuries before the revolution. If anything it was those who supported the tightening of british control of the colonies that were going against the colonies traditional values, i.e. liberals.
Not true. There has always, regardless of the nation or time period, been conservatives vs liberals. People with traditional values are conservative, and people with progressive values are liberal. The French Revolution, for example, was a struggle between those who wanted equal opportunity for all and those who wanted the status quo.
If you mean the development of Democrats and Republicans, then you're correct.
@Oreo222 If you use the real definitions of the words Conservative and Liberal, then your statement is correct. If, however you use the real world application of those words (as is what most people use), then my previous post still stands true. Take the extremely Conservative members of the Republican party. Several of their goals (like a complete free-market economy, stronger military, and absolutely no form of welfare of any kind) did not exist in the past at all. Many of them claim to be returning America to its tradition, when in actuality they are just trying to change America into the nation they want, not what it was. The America they want never existed to begin with. We were never completely capitalist, our strong military is very recent in terms of our total history, and welfare has existed in some shape or form for over a century. So by definition they themselves are liberals because they want to change the current US tradition and culture into something they approve of, even if it is a change to the right. Everyone has something they want to change about the current status quo, so by definition everyone is a little liberal. Yet you would never call these ultra conservatives liberal in real life.
Real conservatives are not evil. Fake conservatives (And I do not mean to stereotype, but usually fake Christians) are evil. Fake Conservatives have imagined a country that never was. A "christian" nation. And they say "We need to take our Christian nation back!" Back? This was always a secular nation. I just say we follow the Constitution. Get the f***ing Bible out of politics before I move to Switzerland.
I find it funny that in the "Are liberals evil" poll almost all the conservatives voted yes...But in the "Are conservatives evil" poll almost all the liberals voted no. Seems like liberals are a tad bit more respectful of the other viewpoint.