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maslow says2016-08-07T04:37:52.4598612Z
For all my conspiracy theorist Republican friends, time for a history lesson: Ford pardoned Nixon. Reagan sold arms to Iran and secretly funded a war that Congress knew nothing about. And then lied to the American people about it. George Bush , Sr. Said no more taxes and then taxed the US. GW lied about Iraq's role in 9/11, and led to the costliest war in US history. Cheney outed a CIA agent for political payback. Colin Powell and Condelisa Rice both had private email servers. And Republicans think Hillary is awful because she had a private server. Time for some perspective, eh Republicans?
maslow says2016-08-07T22:53:52.4034158Z
Foxxhajti: You are absolutely right. That is the definition of a bigot. But traditionally liberals tend NOT to be a bigot...Maybe I did not explain myself clearly. I am not intolerant of those holding different opinions when they can convey them in a civil manner and keep an open mind...I become frustrated when an opponent is stuck, mired down in false facts and is unwilling to observe new information that may enlighten if not change their views. That is how one learns and grows, Yes? So to reiterate, being liberal , as you said, does not exclude liberals, but it does on my account. Thank you for pointing out that fact.
foxxhajti says2016-08-07T23:07:24.2227756Z
@Throwback It's better to point out someone's flaws in an argument constructively, remaining silent, is pointless. One can't lock himself in an echo chamber.
foxxhajti says2016-08-07T23:20:01.7421430Z
@Maslow Traditionally, neither are bigots by nature. Having certain political views, doesn't make one a bigot, how they behave as the party's supporters, makes them a possible bigot. I've met bigots on both sides of the political spectrum. Generalizing someone based on his political views is a bit bigoted. You shouldn't persist on trying to change one's political views, you have to accept that others have different political views than you. Provide information in a constructive manner, whether or not they'll accept it is up to them, but you can't just force them to alter their views.
Throwback says2016-08-08T00:01:42.7042375Z
@maslow....A 4th friend request from my pet stalker? Wow ;)
maslow says2016-08-08T04:16:32.9330700Z
Foxxhajti: True enough, one normally cannot persuade a person to change their views unless they are open minded and have a willingness to be enlightened in the world. These type of people are usually intelligent, self aware, and usually educated. They don't live life in a box. However, the facts I presented in my initial post are just that: facts. A Republican can weigh them against the levy of lies brought up against Hillary and glean what they may with the information. That is all I am providing, I don't expect epiphanies from the type of folks who respond on this site.
triangle.128k says2016-08-08T05:41:55.5164635Z
@maslow You're pretty much a bigot to non-liberal beliefs. Remember how you stocked people and insulted them several times for disagreeing with their political views?
foxxhajti says2016-08-08T08:14:26.8325723Z
@maslow persisting until you change someone's views on things, is kind of a dictator thing to do. Debate constructively with them, and let them be. Who cares what a few republicans have said? Let them be. Generalizing republicans because of a few people, is a bit bigoted. And by the way, both presidential candidates are awful. I feel sorry for the Americans. It's a shame that Bernie Sanders didn't get the nomination. Although I wasn't a huge fan of him, he could've possibly been semi-decent. Now the choice is between a scandalous (possible) criminal and a clown.
Heterodox says2016-08-08T15:52:46.1266320Z
What is a conspiracy theorist? Is that someone who has a theory about a conspiracy or is it someone who believes a theory without proving the theory? Is there something odd about theorizing? || The reason I ask, is because most often the terms "conspiracy theorist" are used to discredit someone, that they are somehow a nutjob or a whacko for having a theory.
maslow says2016-08-08T19:48:18.6202454Z
Foxxhaji: I explicitly said that I am presenting some facts and the person reading them may glean what they may. I don't know why YOU persist in saying I am trying to persuade someone's opinion when I have said twice I am not. Apparently you are trying to make me out to be a bigot come hell or high water. Unless you have something actually constructive to say, I ask you please not to address me again. I did not persist, you are so are you claiming dictatorship? And you are making a bigoted statements about the two Presidential nominees or at the very least biased. And Bernie Sanders was a lying sell out like most American politicians. And people like you on this site who think they are holier than thou.
foxxhajti says2016-08-08T21:02:32.6106540Z
@maslow I don't see where you got the "holier than thou" impression from. I clearly have spoken constructively. Making statements about political candidates is bigoted now? Didn't know that I wasn't allowed to criticize politicians. I haven't even insulted their ideologies, I was referring to the fact that Hillary Clinton might possibly be a criminal, while Donald Trump is almost like a clown, mostly due to the way he speaks and his over-the-top mannerisms. Once again, the definition of "bigot" (since someone deleted my first comment on this threat, wonder who hmmm) "a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions." Criticizing a politician, isn't bigotry. How am I even biased? I didn't even say that Bernie Sanders was good, I've said that he was "semi-decent". You have the tendency to attack people who don't agree with you on a bunch of polls. Also, lovely how you've unfriended me due to my last reply even though I've spoken to you constructively. I've never even called you a bigot in any of my replies. In my last response, I've just said that generalizing people due to their political views, is a bigoted action. I don't see what is so offensive and non-constructive about that.
Throwback says2016-08-08T23:45:51.5608644Z
@foxxhajti....What I find amazing is your ideology appears to align more with maslow's than mine, yet somehow she takes offense to your comments where I do not. I am secure in my positions, but I don't like receiving the initial personal attack, filled with profanity and personal insults as she seems to do. Then she talks about how everyone is bullying her. My suggestion to the thin skinned would be to perhaps not start fights on a debate site.
foxxhajti says2016-08-08T23:50:54.1949115Z
@Throwback You're completely right. I might agree with her politics-wise, but I don't appreciate the way she words her arguments most of the time. Discussions shouldn't be handles in an aggressive manner.
maslow says2016-08-09T00:28:52.7435289Z
Foxxhajti: I wasn't aggressive with you, I pointed out the obvious and like your lack luster alignment with throwup, you cannot take the same criticism you so willingly give out. So why don't you keep your opinionated pie hole shut?
foxxhajti says2016-08-09T00:55:46.1937529Z
@maslow, I can't take criticism when you're the one who private messaged me to stop bullying you? I haven't insulted you once, yet you're here making personal attacks. That ought to show a weak argument.
maslow says2016-08-09T01:01:51.0331722Z
Foxxhajti You are a lying little girl, so shut your gaping pie hole
foxxhajti says2016-08-09T01:06:15.9262662Z
@maslow Stop private messaging me and attacking me. I haven't done anything to you. You're supposed to be an adult, act like one, and argue constructively instead of continuously sending me messages privately.
foxxhajti says2016-08-09T01:09:04.6591110Z
@maslow Then stop private messaging me and sending me slurs maybe?
foxxhajti says2016-08-09T01:12:14.1559551Z
@maslow You have such a nice personality!
Throwback says2016-08-09T03:12:23.9839025Z
@foxxhajti....You, too? 1st off, this must be standard operating procedure for maslow. She is an expert at one thing....Transference. I think at nothing else; perhaps self righteous intolerance? 2nd, I'm just barely wounded. I thought I was special, getting unprovoked, repeated, profanity laced friend requests from maslow. Now I'm afraid she doesn't love me anymore.
foxxhajti says2016-08-14T09:58:53.9703676Z
@Throwback, I've just noticed your comment (about time, if I may say so myself lol). She had kept private messaging me, calling me slurs, calling me a little girl, etc. Even though I haven't provoked her at all. Oh well, at least her account is gone now.
Throwback says2016-08-14T12:58:07.7641388Z
@foxxhajti: maslow has changed accounts to karlmarx59 in an attempt to hide from it's comments. It (not claiming a gender) wants me to stop referring to it as maslow. Be careful what you wish for! It thinks I've been defending the truth against maslow? If I were to refer to it as karlmarx59, it would be much more so-I don't play well with anyone who chooses to refer to themselves as Karl Marx.

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