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Varrack says2015-04-10T23:30:31.0152321-05:00
What about theism?
Dookieman says2015-04-10T23:33:57.4821852-05:00
@Varrack I just wanted to get people's opinion on non religious worldviews.
Dookieman says2015-04-10T23:39:03.5950365-05:00
@triangle.128k Yea, that's true. But you can base your beliefs in terms of probability. One might hold that atheism is more likely to be true than theism and therefore regard himself as an atheist
Dookieman says2015-04-10T23:41:32.1149184-05:00
@Texas14 I don't think there are many atheist that claim they know God does not exist. An atheist can regard the existence of God as a possibility, but hold that it's unlikely.
Dookieman says2015-04-10T23:45:21.6159343-05:00
I should have given a definition of atheism and agnosticism in the description.
Texas14 says2015-04-10T23:49:01.5567753-05:00
You're right. I think we may know different athiests.
TheMarquis says2015-04-10T23:59:00.2587614-05:00
The two aren't mutually exclusive.
triangle.128k says2015-04-11T00:01:35.0545845-05:00
@Dookieman I know many atheists tend to not acknowledge the possibility of a god existing. I consider myself agnostic because i'm not as strong of a disbeliever as many atheists.
Dookieman says2015-04-11T00:11:23.7150010-05:00
Personally, I think atheism is superior. My problem with agnosticism is that it doesn't put a probability of the question of God's existence. The term makes it sound like there is equal evidence supporting both theism and atheism, which I don't think is the case.
triangle.128k says2015-04-11T00:14:04.0251126-05:00
I don't necessarily believe in equal evidence on both sides. Agnosticism doesn't necessarily have to mean in the exact middle.
SamStevens says2015-04-11T00:18:46.7407440-05:00
Texas14: " but atheists are so arrogant to the point where they say that they know that God doesn't exist. " I am not arrogant on the subject. I accept the possibility of a god; there just isn't any evidence of one. If there is legitimate, scientific evidence of a god's existence, I have no problem changing my stance on the topic.
Dookieman says2015-04-11T00:19:50.2159233-05:00
Agnosticism does seem to imply that there is equal evidence on both sides. The agnostic claims that both the theistic and atheistic claims are not justified.
Welliss says2015-04-11T00:28:42.5280480-05:00
I would like to inform the uninformed about the different forms of Agnosticism. There are... Agnostic Atheist- One who does not believe there is a god but does not claim to know of one's non existence. Agnostic Theist- One who believes in a god but does not claim to know of one's existence. Apathetic- One who believes that regardless of whether or not a god exists, they do not seem to care about the Universe or its inhabitants. Strong Agnostic- one does not know if there is a god and does not believe we can know. Weak Agnostic- one who does not know if there is a god but believes that eventually we can know. Which of these would do you think you fit? I would be a Weak Agnostic Atheist/Apathetic.
Dookieman says2015-04-11T00:30:25.2720756-05:00
@Welliss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHtvwnnJKQI
Dookieman says2015-04-11T00:32:08.7257390-05:00
@Welliss I don't think it is necessary to call oneself an "agnostic atheist."
TheMarquis says2015-04-11T01:04:49.4518317-05:00
Wellis is absolutely right.
briantheliberal says2015-04-11T01:04:49.4711787-05:00
Atheism and agnosticism aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, agnostics are just optimistic, open minded atheists.
Dookieman says2015-04-11T01:38:29.3983332-05:00
You don't need to call yourself an "agnostic atheist." One can be an atheist and hold the view that the existence of God is unlikely, but nevertheless believe that it's possible that God exist.
8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA says2015-04-11T02:47:49.3895661-05:00
I'm an atheit who knows there is no god. Agnostic atheists and self-labeled 'neutral agnostics' are just too afraid to say 'hey that dude is no more real than Ron Weasley.
Anonymous says2015-04-11T03:42:22.1147222-05:00
I have to see, to see that i dont see a dog right now. In other Words, i dont know god, and only know is true. Beyond what i know is what i dont know, and i have to imagine what my neighbour is doing right now. False=anywhere beyond my personal physical experience of now. My personal physical experience of now is everything, and anywhere beyond that is the reflection of nothing
Diqiucun_Cunmin says2015-04-11T04:59:25.6894672-05:00
Can you add apatheism? (I said Agnostic in my profile because there's no 'Apatheist' choice)
BblackkBbirdd says2015-04-11T05:28:55.0589786-05:00
They're not mutually exclusive. You can be an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist.
Episteme says2015-04-11T20:20:48.4577700-05:00
Dookieman "@Varrack I just wanted to get people's opinion on non religious worldviews." Just wanted to point out that some people can stretch atheism to the point it is a religion for them. Also, some people can be theists without being religious. Believing in God doesn't mean a person subscribes to a religion and lack of belief in God doesn't mean they are without a religion necessarily. Now, I'll try to back my claim here... A religion doesn't have to be any of the formed and organised religions there are out there... All a religion has to be to fit the Merriam Webster dictionary definition is partially (there are more definitions): "an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group." Obviously many atheists think their atheism is important to them - otherwise why the debate? Why the discussions? Also, a person can be a theist and not be part of a religion necessarily, by not participating in the debates. They would continue to believe in God, but potentially not find much importance in this belief. In some ways it depends on the individual. As for the answer, I would say Agnosticism is better than Atheism because atheism as a concept acts as if it is too certain. What about the doubt that there might be a God? Agnosticism allows for that doubt to exist.
triangle.128k says2015-04-14T16:59:01.6790181-05:00
Technically speaking, everybody is either agnostic or delusional.
slimbo27 says2015-04-15T18:41:02.2985000-05:00
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8elB6U5THIqaSm5QhiNLVnRJA says2015-04-23T04:25:46.3417460-05:00
Agnostics are atheists who are too scared to admit it.
dsowders says2015-04-30T21:35:54.1066940-05:00
Why is this under Philosophy, not religion?
JakobCZ says2015-09-04T17:44:34.6037020Z
Do you know that one does not falsify the other one, right?

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