Atheism vs. Agnosticism

Which belief system makes more sense: atheism or agnosticism?

  • Atheism

  • Agnosticism

64% 30 votes
36% 17 votes
  • "Agnostics are atheists with no balls"_Someone whose name I've forgotten. (No offense to any agnostics). Seriously though, all agnostics are atheists, because they do not believe in a god. That's atheism. Most atheists are also agnostics, because most atheists admit that no one can know for sure one way or the other. However, to me, atheism will be better, as I see agnosticism as "sitting on the fence", whereas the [lack of] evidence is rather clear.

  • Agnosticism is not a middle position between Atheism and Theism. As Thomas Huxley wrote: "Agnosticism, in fact, is not a creed but a method, the essence of which lies in the vigorous application of a single principle. That principle is of great antiquity; it is as old as is the fundamental axiom of modern science. Positively the principle may be expressed: In matters of the intellect, follow your reason as far as it will take you without regard to any other considerations. And negatively: In matters of the intellect do not pretend the conclusions are certain that are not demonstrated or demonstrable." Robert Flint explained Agnosticism as: "[Agnosticism is] properly a theory about knowledge, not about religion. A theist and a Christian may be an agnostic; an atheist may not be an agnostic. An atheist may deny that there is a God, and in this case his atheism is dogmatic and not agnostic. Or he may refuse to acknowledge that there is a God simply on the ground that he perceives no evidence for his existence and finds arguments which have been advanced in proof of it invalid. In this case his atheism is critical, not agnostic. The atheist may be, and not infrequently is, an agnostic" Huxley, Science and the Christian Tradition: p245-246 quoted in Stein (ed), An Anthology of Atheism and Rationalism: p6 Thus one may be an atheist and agnostic, and one may be a Theist and an agnostic.

  • Agnosticism , Is like admitting defeat that you cannot know , or the truth is far more complex for the likes of us to understand.

  • Agnostics are those that are smart enough to realize there is no Santa but remain awkwardly hopeful.

  • I believe it was Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson who said, after scientifically evaluating religion, "Agnosticism is my conclusion, atheism is my opinion."

  • I'm actually both; they address different things. However, in most situations, "atheist" is the point to be discussed.

    Posted by: MrJosh
  • Agnosticism is not a position on religion, it's a position on knowledge. I can be agnostic about the idea of mind uploading, for example, in which case I either don't claim to know, or claim it's impossible to know, if it *really* works as advertised. Unless one is also theist or atheist, then the term simply isn't applicable to religious thought. (A)Theism is a binary option; you either hold a positive belief in god(s), or you don't. If you do, then you are a theist. If you don't, then whatever the specifics may be, you are still an atheist. It's right there in the name. A-Theism; no, or lack of, theism. All lack of belief in theism is, by simple literal definition, atheism.

  • Though there is that .00000001% percent chance that a religion could be right, I prefer to be atheist in the same ways Christians are atheist about the flyin spaghetti monster

  • The terms aren't mutually exclusive. Gnosticism and agnosticisms is the term that refers to knowledge: • Gnosticism addresses the issue of what one knows or claims to know. • Agnosticism addresses the issue of what one don't knows or not claim to know. Theism and atheism is the term that refers to belief: • Theist believe in a god/gods. • Atheist doesn't believe in any god. The different types of theist and atheist: • Agnostic Atheist - Doesn't know if there is a god/gods or there isn't a god/gods, but since there is no scientific evidence right now to support the existence of a god/gods, therefore doesn't believes in a god/gods. (Around 99,9% of atheists) • Agnostic Theist - Doesn't know if there is a god/gods or there isn't a god/gods, but believes in a god/gods. • Gnostic Atheist - Knows that there is no god/gods. Claims to have a 100% valid evidence against the existence of god/gods, therefore doesn't believes in a god/gods.(Around 0,1% of atheists) • Gnostic Theist - Knows that there is a god/gods. Claims to have a 100% valid evidence for the existence of god/gods, therefore believes in a god/gods. I am for example an agnostic atheist. Other names that sometimes modern atheist prefer to use instead of the term 'atheist': Sceptic, Agnostic, Secularist, Secular Humanist, Humanist, Nontheist, Critical thinker, Naturalist, Non believer, Logical thinker, Free thinker There is also Ignosticism: Ignosticism or igtheism is the idea that every theological position assumes too much about the concept of God and other theological concepts; including (but not limited to) concepts of faith, spirituality, heaven, hell, afterlife, damnation, salvation, sin and the soul. Ignosticism is the view that any religious term or theological concept presented must be accompanied by a coherent definition. Without a clear definition such terms cannot be meaningfully discussed. Such terms or concepts must also be falsifiable. Lacking this an ignostic takes the theological noncognitivist position that the existence or nature of the terms presented (and all matters of debate) is meaningless. For example, if the term "God" does not refer to anything reasonably defined then there is no conceivable method to test against the existence of god. Therefore the term "God" has no literal significance and need not be debated or discussed.

  • For the last time agnosticism/nausticsm and a/theism are very different spectrums agnosticism is regarding the capability to perceive evidence or knowledge of a god or deity like being agnosticism says we cant perceive it naustism say we can, a/theism is regarding belief or lack there of, after your conclusion on your stance of agnostic or naustic

  • No changeling my mind I whole hearted belief that there can be no deity.

  • Agnosticism fails to answer the question. They typically say they aren't certain, but the problem is they usually don't accept a god or gods and this means they are Atheists by definition, they might not be super sure of this position, but Atheism just means not accepting a god/s, so therefore saying you aren't sure, when you either do or don't accept god/gods doesn't make sense, and if you are truly fully indifferent, then you have nothing to base your worldview on considering you haven't answered the first question in the worldview set that most answer.

  • If I was anything less than a Theist.

  • Agnostic Atheism is the only logical choice. Gnostic Atheism and pure Agnosticism are both illogical.

  • I honestly don't know, have you figured it out yet?

    Posted by: Rio89
  • Atheist say it's a definitive no, theists is opposite. You cant know! Now religion is all lies. It all comes down to God or no God. Well science hasn't proven a God to currently exist, but then again science will never know everything. We have only explored a little bit outside of our solar system, we don't know ANYTHING of whats beyond that. Space is infinite as far as we can assume so we will never know everything about everything. Ask you self if aliens exist, or another civilization in deep space. Same thing with God. I've heard some smart-a$$ remarks from atheists saying "oh well I am agnostic about unicorns". Haha have you been outside of the galaxy? To another planet? To another planetary civilization? Exactly so shut your yapping mouth. Atheist claim to be free thinkers and open minded yet they are just plain ignorant. They think because science hasn't proven something (currently) that it automatically doesn't exist. Now currently there is no God discovered but humans haven't even been out of the solar system. So how could you possibly say no God doesn't exist... You don't know that. There will never be substantial evidence to come to a conclusion. Space is to vast, and we have just scraped the surface of it. Hence we will never know. Think about that fake "free thinkers".

  • I have no idea to account for existence nor do I dwell on my lack of belief.

  • Nothing can be proven about the existence of a god and we have been arguing for thousands of years about it, that's why I'm very apathetic about this question, I think people, especially strong atheists, should leave this topic aside and get along different life matters to develop ourselves and shape our futur.

    Posted by: DiiDoo
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SNP1 says2014-01-23T15:09:13.3228442-06:00
Atheism and agnosticism are not mutually exclusive, they are answers to 2 different questions. Do you believe in God(s)? Yes=theist no=atheist Do you know, with 100% certainty, if there is or isn't a God or Gods? Yes=gnostic No=Agnostic An atheist does not believe there is a God(s), but if they do not know for sure that there isn't a God is an Agnostic Atheist. Saying you are one or the other is ignoring one of the 2 questions.
The1Uncorrupted says2015-04-24T12:22:35.0380932-05:00
Sociologically their can be separation of the two but its illogical to do so

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