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Yes

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I don't know what "facism" is

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SweetTea says2014-07-24T09:36:29.5263998-05:00
They certainly AREN'T American!
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T09:37:19.8112831-05:00
Not a true Scotsman fallacy. They sadly exemplify the American right wing.
SweetTea says2014-07-24T09:43:33.2305478-05:00
The_Immortal_Emris ... I humbly disagree -- not all of the Right Wing has lost its senses!
ChosenWolff says2014-07-24T09:47:34.0333733-05:00
It was most definitely a "no true scotsman" fallacy. Although the Tea Party constantly barages liberals as being un-american.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T09:49:43.1292611-05:00
The problem with the sane right-wingers is they don't know what they actually believe. The GOP has moved their stance so radically far to the right, it moved the center so quickly toward fascism it knocked off Mussolini's hat.
leonitus2464 says2014-07-24T09:49:53.4254591-05:00
They are american. But they are a radical right wing fringe group. They are the minority of americans.
ChosenWolff says2014-07-24T09:54:17.3669348-05:00
If they're going to protest, they need to do it right. Immolation, public castration, that $hit worked in Tunisia
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T09:58:43.6540122-05:00
But not in Tibet, sadly. Self immolation is a crap shoot.
ChosenWolff says2014-07-24T10:00:00.8101284-05:00
Immolation worked wonders in Tunisia. It scared the public, attracted foreign attention, and was quite moving. People were publicly committing suicide to relay a message. Immolation is done a lit in Xinjiang as well.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T10:02:14.1875634-05:00
It certainly creates an image with impact, of that there is no doubt. But the young man crushed by a tank in Tienanmen also had great impact, though little influence.
ChosenWolff says2014-07-24T10:14:29.8066505-05:00
He didn't get crushed by the tank. He jumped on top of it and started beating on the hatch. His friend pulled him away from the tanks.
ChosenWolff says2014-07-24T10:20:55.7580725-05:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeFzeNAHEhU
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T10:29:57.5367753-05:00
Wow, I have been operating under a misconception if that is the case. I will do some reading on the event. I had always assumed the photo was of the man just before the tanks rolled over him.
ChosenWolff says2014-07-24T10:31:13.6859555-05:00
No. He was running in front of it to stop them. It was believed to be in protest of the troop surge. Xinjiang hasn't exactly been quiet about its separatism.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-07-24T10:33:17.2715321-05:00
I knew it was over the violent suppression of protests, but I had no idea he was dragged away. I have always assumed (perhaps I was told) that he was killed by the very tank he stood before. Thank you for showing me the facts on that event, Chosen. I appreciate it. Absolutely hate operating under misconceptions.

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