Did Russia give and aid pro-Russian separatists with buk missiles and training?

Posted by: discomfiting

  • Of course they did, it's SO obvious!

  • Russia had nothing to do with it, leave him alone!

83% 10 votes
17% 2 votes
  • Leave him alone!

    Posted by: STALIN
  • I'll have to look into this some more, but I don't think the rebels could have operated the missile systems with such skill. Also, it seems odd to me that they should be accused without more evidence- the Ukrainian government, a week before this event, stated that no missile systems had reached rebel hands. What's more, we have drones flying over Ukraine, and missile systems are pretty large things. How would they not get noticed crossing the border?

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Seido says2014-07-18T19:29:10.4797616-05:00
...Isn't the official story that they have been and still are? And isn't that backed up by fact? Heck, isn't that the reason why the US issued another set of sanctions a few days ago?
discomfiting says2014-07-18T19:31:53.7090473-05:00
Not everybody really cares what is backed up by facts and what we know; a lot of people cling to their delusions and preconceived notions they have about things by any means necessary which includes outright denying all facts that say you're wrong.
Seido says2014-07-18T19:40:52.7665927-05:00
I feel like that could be applied to quite a few other issues as well *cough* 9/11 *cough*.
discomfiting says2014-07-18T19:44:19.2092186-05:00
It definitely can be applied to not only 9/11 but a lot of things. And I just realized, in march another Malaysia Airline plane (flight 370) vanished now another airplane from the same company gets shot down in shot a short period of time and both making international headlines everywhere. Maybe it's just me, but I find that kind of weird..
Seido says2014-07-18T20:48:07.2257957-05:00
Well, if we learned anything from this year, it's to not fly on Malaysian Airlines.
ChosenWolff says2014-07-18T21:02:51.6068027-05:00
It was a Russian missile that was used in the last two attacks.
Kreakin says2014-07-19T05:54:43.1000094-05:00
So much propaganda I can't tell who did what..
debate_power says2014-07-19T15:26:27.3867361-05:00
@discomfiting Moreover, weren't a large number of the passengers on Flight 370 Americans? And America is allied with Ukraine, not Russia. Seems like a very cruel trick, but I'll have to look into this some more.
discomfiting says2014-07-20T19:16:14.9358238-05:00
It wasn't really a large number of Americans on 370. It was 3. 152 chinese, 50 Malaysian, 7 Indonesian, 6 aussies, 5 india, 4 france, then america's 3 and 2 for Canada, Iran, NZ, Ukraine, and 1 for Hong Kong, Russia, Netherlands, Taiwan.

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