Did the Founding Father support Gay Marriage or Homosexuality?

Posted by: SongHaGin

Is it a part of the constitution? Is homosexuality more deep rooted than we realize?

  • Yes.

  • No.

8% 1 votes
92% 12 votes
  • If they did then gay marriage would have already been legal in the 1700s.

  • They didnt even support women having the right to vote, why the hell would they have been pro gay marriage??

  • Gay marriage, like many things, probably didn't even cross their minds when they wrote the Constitution.

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TBR says2015-10-15T17:13:50.3477714Z
Well, you are looking at the right primarily grounded in the 14th amendment - passed about 90 years AFTER the constitution was signed by the "founding fathers". They may not have been thinking about SSM, but they were thinking about freedom, regardless - the constitution is more than what the founders wrote.
TBR says2015-10-15T17:19:34.3967876Z
Thomas Jefferson thought it would be a good idea to rewrite the constitution every 20 years. He said ~"'to prevent enslaved to the prior generation". Whatever they were thinking at that moment, they knew that changes were always going to be necessary - and made accommodations for it. So, yet again, the question is mostly moot.
ZacGraphics says2015-10-15T17:29:04.9933604Z
Huh, this really makes me think. Let me do some research, and I'll formulate an opinion.
triangle.128k says2015-10-15T19:06:47.8519553Z
SongHaGin is taking what I said waaayyy out of context, she's making these ridiculous polls.
OneNationUnderGod says2015-10-15T20:26:00.4522920Z
It was probably the farthest thing from their minds.
SongHaGin says2015-10-15T20:34:24.0170640Z
I'd never thought It would come to this, but triangle, do not post on my polls. Do not talk to me. Or I will report you. Keep on going and I will have to report you to some higher authorities.
SongHaGin says2015-10-15T20:34:57.5880488Z
ZacGraphics, Thank you for taking this poll and doing the right thing.
PetersSmith says2015-10-15T20:46:57.7760322Z
SongHaGin: You can't ban someone from posting on your polls. However, he can block someone to prevent them from messaging you. Unless the user is specifically harassing and stalking you, then there is no justification to report them. By nature, heated arguments and rivalries can occur, and only become an issue when it gets out of hand. If it's truly becoming a problem, you can contact this user: http://www.debate.org/airmax1227/ or me and we'll deal with it accordingly.
SongHaGin says2015-10-15T20:48:17.3803810Z
How can you say anything? He's been bothering me for a while now! I want him to leave me alone!
PetersSmith says2015-10-15T20:55:26.6987702Z
SongHaGin: I don't know what you mean by "how can you say anything", but as for the latter I need evidence that it's actually harassment. If he's just arguing with you on polls, then just ignore the user, but if the user's specifically attacking you and stalking your every action then that's an issue. There's heated arguments because of the nature of the site, and you can't ban someone for doing so. If you seriously think a user is violating the TOU (http://www.Debate.Org/legal/terms/) then tell me or airmax1227.
SongHaGin says2015-10-15T20:58:43.1025112Z
I'm going based of off if this was a real debate, he would have be reprimanded. Anyway, I'm done arguing.
triangle.128k says2015-10-15T21:11:45.1194987Z
@SongHaGin Thank you for your comments, I never did anything wrong, which you're simply making a big fuss out of. So enjoy your rejected attempt at banning me (-:
OneNationUnderGod says2015-10-15T21:16:08.9965430Z
SongHaGin. Don't let it bother you. Lots of people get defensive when they realize they might be wrong, and the only way they can think to respond is to call their opposition "ridiculous" or whatever, instead of simply stating their opinion. If the person really thought your poll was "ridiculous" then they wouldn't waste their time responding to it. They are blind to their own hypocrisy in that regard. Your opinions are probably just making them think twice, and they don't know what else to say. Don't let anyone silence you or take away your right to freedom of speech. That first amendment thing they claim to prize so much.
triangle.128k says2015-10-15T21:18:34.4160750Z
K
SongHaGin says2015-10-15T21:19:00.9047052Z
Thank you OneNationUnderGod. Thank you very much. Please leave me alone, Triangle.
TBR says2015-10-15T21:21:29.9461498Z
Since its a poll regarding the constitution, and the 1st was mentioned... You do understand how freedom of speech has absolutely 100% nothing to do with content written on a poll. Right?
triangle.128k says2015-10-15T21:21:58.3389678Z
@SongHaGin Please stop straw-manning my arguments to a major extent and making polls based on your distortion of my arguments.
SongHaGin says2015-10-15T21:25:17.2970929Z
And please leave me alone.
triangle.128k says2015-10-15T21:30:22.5513572Z
@SongHaGin Let's see all the logical fallacies you committed; strawman, appeal to emotion and loaded question.
SongHaGin says2015-10-15T21:31:53.5479071Z
I'm telling you to leave me alone. I'm totally done with you which means I already stopped talking about you. But you still keep on going. PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE.
TBR says2015-10-15T21:56:53.4855515Z
Getting back on topic... If they were or weren't make little difference. See above for detail, but two points recap. 14 a was added a full 85 years after the founders signed the constitution. Additional, they were talking rights understanding they would be interpret later. Last, they did not want a static document.
triangle.128k says2015-10-15T22:00:59.8766897Z
@SongHaGin Let's see, appeal to emotion again and tu quoque. Your logical fallacies are on a roll (-:
SongHaGin says2015-10-19T18:22:08.5020112Z
No one's a bigot, maybe you are.
TBR says2015-10-19T18:55:59.7858736Z
Just saying no ones a bigot is bigoted. Are you refusing to accept the strong believe and different opinion of those who think you are a bigot? Come on... Everyone has bigotry's. Own up to them.
SongHaGin says2015-10-19T21:52:27.5516121Z
Stop.

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