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  • Holocaust Encyclopedia Holocaust and Related Maps The Holocaust: A Learning Site for Students This page is also available in: عربيArabic EspañolSpanish فارسیFarsi FrançaisFrench Bahasa IndonesiaIndonesian ItalianoItalian 日本語Japanese 한국어Korean Português (BR)Portuguese-Brazilian РусскийRussian TürkçeTurkish اُردوUrdu 简体中文Chinese COMBATING HOLOCAUST DENIAL: ORIGINS OF HOLOCAUST DENIAL Related Articles Related Links Comments How to cite this article Nazi policy did a great deal to facilitate denial of the Holocaust even as the killing operation unfolded across German-occupied Europe during World War II. The Holocaust was a state secret in Nazi Germany. The Germans wrote down as little as possible. Most of the killing orders were verbal, particularly at the highest levels. Hitler's order to kill Jews was issued only on a need-to-know basis. The Nazi leaders generally avoided detailed planning of killing operations, preferring to proceed in a systematic but often improvised manner. The Germans destroyed most documentation that did exist before the end of the war. The documents that survived and related directly to the killing program were virtually all classified and stamped “Geheime Reichssache” (Top Secret), requiring special handling and destruction to prevent capture by the enemy. Heinrich Himmler, Reich Leader of the SS and Chief of the German Police, said in a secret speech to SS generals in Posen in 1943 that the mass murder of the European Jews was a secret, never to be recorded. In order to hide the killing operation as much as possible from the uninitiated, Hitler ordered that the killings not be spoken of directly in German documentation or in public statements. Instead, the Germans used codenames and neutral-sounding terms for the killing process. In Nazi parlance, for example, “action” (Aktion) referred to a violent operation against Jewish (or other) civilians by German security forces; “resettlement to the East” (Umsiedlung nach dem Osten) referred to the forced deportation of Jewish civilians to killing centers in German-occupied Poland; and “special treatment” (Sonderbehandlung) meant killing

  • One of the most well-documented events in late history.

  • It really did happen, and there's evidence that backs it up. This "holocaust never happened" BS is merely a crazy conspiracy theory. I had once read the "Survival in Auschwitz" novel by Primo Levi (one of my favourite Italian authors), who was one of these prisoners, and it's pretty sad what they had to go through.

  • Of course. There is too much evidence and historical accounts to believe it didn't happen.

  • There's abundant evidence that the Holocaust happened.

  • Yes, the Holocaust did happen, and millions of people died during this event.

  • The evidence is there, and denying it denies the eyewitness accounts of this tradgedy.

  • Have you been to Auschwitz?

  • It's one of my favorite things about the 20th century.

  • Happened? Of course! 6 million? Bullshit, maybe 2-3 at high.

  • didn't

  • Which one?! The Iranian Holocaust? Or the Jewish one?! If you meant the Jewish one, I should tell you that it's a exaggeration of some sad events to justify Zionists' barbaric actions in Palestine. If you are looking for the true Holocaust, here you may find it: http://english.khamenei.ir/news/2197/8-10-million-Iranians-died-over-Great-Famine-caused-by-the-British

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karlmarx59 says2016-08-22T05:02:05.1679438Z
Hitler had reason to fear possible unfavorable reaction should all the details of the Holocaust become public. Euphemistic language aided secrecy since only those who knew the “real” meaning of the words would understand the deeper meaning of public statements or accurately interpret the documentary record.In addition to the use of coded language, Heinrich Himmler sought to destroy the physical remains of the victims of killing operations to hide the killing process from advancing Allied armies. He assigned SS officer Paul Blobel to command Operation (Aktion) 1005, the code name for German plans to destroy the forensic evidence at mass murder sites. The SS forced prisoners to reopen mass graves at both the killing centers in German-occupied Poland and at the open air killing sites in the former Soviet territory and to cremate the bodies, thereby removing evidence of mass murder. For example, at Babi Yar in Kiev in the summer of 1943, at Belzec in late 1942, and at Sobibor and Treblinka in the fall of 1943, the mass graves were reopened and the bodies burned to ashes. In this way, the Germans and their collaborators destroyed much—but by no means all—of the forensic evidence of mass murder before advancing Soviet armies overran the scenes of these crimes.Late in the war, after word of the Holocaust had reached Britain and the United States, the Nazi leadership sought to counter Allied condemnation of Nazi policies toward Jews with a coordinated campaign of disinformation. On June 23, 1944, the Nazis permitted an International Red Cross commission visit to the Theresienstadt ghetto in occupied Bohemia in what is today the Czech Republic. They hoped to mask Nazi killing operations in the occupied eastern territories by showcasing good conditions for Jews in Theresienstadt. The Red Cross commission consisted of two Danish officials and one Swiss representative and the visit lasted only six hours. It was an elaborate hoax. The SS authorities intensified deportations of Jews from the ghetto to alleviate overcrowding and spruced up the ghetto by planting gardens, painting houses, opening cafes and theaters and the like in preparation for the visit. They even instructed the prisoners how to behave during the inspection and to give positive reports about conditions in the ghetto. Once the visit ended, however, the SS authorities resumed deportations of Jews, overwhelmingly to the Auschwitz killing center in German-occupied Poland. The visit had served its purpose: to confuse international public opinion about the true nature of Nazi policies towards Jews. Despite Nazi efforts to keep secret the unfolding Holocaust, information did leak out. The perpetrators themselves talked about what they were doing. Occasionally, survivors of mass killing operations bore witness to the killing program. Both Jewish and Polish underground organizations made great efforts to let the outside world know what the Germans were doing in eastern Europe. The information was sometimes incomplete, contradictory, and inaccurate in some of the specific details, but the general policy and pattern of events were clear by the second half of 1942.Yet the psychological barriers to accepting the existence of the Nazi killing program were considerable. The Holocaust was unprecedented and irrational. It was inconceivable that an advanced industrial nation would mobilize its resources to kill millions of peaceful civilians, including women and children, the elderly, and the very young. In doing so, the Nazis often acted contrary to German economic and military interests. For example, they intensified the killing operation, killing skilled Jewish laborers even while labor shortages threatened to undermine the German war effort. All too many people responded to reports about German killings of Jewish civilians by comparing these reports to news stories about German atrocities in occupied Belgium and northern France during World War I. The British media in World War I charged that the German occupation was monstrous, that German soldiers committed many outrages against defenseless civilians in German-occupied Belgium. They charged that German soldiers bayoneted babies, disfigured women, and killed civilians with military-issued poison gas. It turned out after the war that the Allies had invented many of those stories in order to maximize popular support for the war effort. As a result of that experience, many people were skeptical of reports of mass murder operations during World War II. In this case, however, the reports turned out to be generally accurate.While some people today are misled as a result of the Nazi policies described above into doubting the reality of the Holocaust, others deny the Holocaust for more overtly racist, political, or strategic reasons. These deniers begin with the premise that the Holocaust did not happen. This premise suits their broader purposes. They deny the Holocaust as an article of faith and no amount of rational argumentation can dissuade them. This denial is irrational, largely unrelated either to the facts of the history or to the enormity of the event. Some people deny the Holocaust because of innate antisemitism, irrational hated of Jews. In fact, Holocaust denial has been called by some scholars the “new antisemitism” for it recycles many of the elements of pre-1945 antisemitism in a post-World War II context. Holocaust deniers argue that reports of the Holocaust are really part of a vast shadowy plot to make the white, western world feel guilty and to advance the interest of Jews. Even at the time of the Holocaust, some people in the United States thought reports of German massacres of Jewish civilians were actually propaganda reports designed to force the government to grant Jews special treatment and consideration. Many people who deny the Holocaust argue that the supposed hoax” served above all the interests of the State of Israel. Holocaust denial is, for these people, also an attack on the legitimacy of the State of Israel. Finally, others deny the Holocaust because they want to see a resurgence of Nazi racism. They insist that Nazism was a good political philosophy and that only “negative” press resulting from reports of the genocide the Nazis perpetrated prevent a revival of the Nazi movement today. They deny the Holocaust so that they can attract followers to a new Nazi movement. Holocaust denial, then, unites a broad range of radical right-wing hate groups in the United States and elsewhere, ranging from Ku Klux Klan segregationists to skinheads seeking to revive Nazism to radical Muslim activists seeking to destroy Israel.Holocaust deniers want to debate the very existence of the Holocaust as a historical event. They want above all to be seen as legitimate scholars arguing a historical point. They crave attention, a public platform to air what they refer to as “the other side of the issue.” Because legitimate scholars do not doubt that the Holocaust happened, such assertions play no role in historical debates. Although deniers insist that the idea of the Holocaust as myth is a reasonable topic of debate, it is clear, in light of the overwhelming weight of evidence that the Holocaust happened, that the debate the deniers proffer is more about antisemitism and hate politics than it is about history.Evans, Richard J. Lying About Hitler: History, Holocaust, and the David Irving Trial. New York: Basic Books, 2001.Gottfried, Ted. Deniers of the Holocaust: Who They Are, What They Do, Why They Do It. Brookfield, CT: Twenty-First Century Books, 2001.Shermer, Michael, and Alex Grobman. Denying History: Who Says the Holocaust Never Happened and Why Do They Say It? Berkeley: University of California Press, 2000. Zimmerman, John C. Holocaust Denial: Demographics, Testimonies,and Ideologies. Lanham, MD: University Press of America, 2000.
triangle.128k says2016-08-22T05:26:40.6990611Z
Stop your walls of text please, post these in the forums and have it more organized. Nobody likes the great wall of text.
triangle.128k says2016-08-22T06:33:33.5250871Z
@lightseeker Hello there fellow neo-Nazi. I bet Hitler would love Iran's absurdly totalitarian government.
lightseeker says2016-08-22T06:41:21.7836919Z
Actually Hitler was in love with your studies of eugenics, and was receiving huge sums of money from your banks.
triangle.128k says2016-08-22T06:58:07.6754338Z
Hitler hated the US for being a "multi racial hell" and was actually on very good terms with Iran. Hitler liked your country and hated us.
Axonly says2016-08-22T07:00:32.6802241Z
Well, hated America and loved Iran in the 1940s
foxxhajti says2016-08-22T07:04:37.8701392Z
@lightseeker, since Hitler loved the Aryans, and he knew that Iranians are also from Aryan descendent, he had good relationship with Iranian government. Abdol Hossein Sardari, an Iranian diplomat in Paris even asked to except Iranian jews and let them exit europe without harm. He began issuing hundreds of Iranian passports for non-Iranian Jews to save them from persecution. Iranian government relationship with nazis caused USSR and UK to ask Iran to deport all of germans and when Reza Shah refused he faced an Angelo-Soviet invasion in September 1941 and had to resign in favor of his son.
foxxhajti says2016-08-22T07:13:55.9240708Z
Also, I can't say one can really explain the views Hitler held on the United States, as they were kind of incoherent. Anyways, he was knowledgeable about the fact that the United States had a sizable German-descended population and attributed everything he thought was admirable about the country to them. He also both fetishized the technology America was producing while also using it as evidence to back up his claim that the United States was a soulless, fake country (as opposed to the Romantic, poetic German volk.) He once memorably called the United States "half-Judaified and half-Negrified." As far as I know, he was also kind of obsessed with Native Americans (don't take my word for it)? It was some type of oddity shared by plenty of Germans his age.
Throwback says2016-08-22T07:40:12.7555939Z
@triangle.128: "Stop your walls of text please, post these in the forums and have it more organized. Nobody likes the great wall of text." Thanks for the funniest comment today. Luciferseeker has to be the most dishonest user of this site. He turns everything inside out then expects you to waste time defending facts and truths simply because his lies were offered.
Throwback says2016-08-22T08:25:26.6149825Z
Not surprisingly, Light Bearer's left hand man has the capacity to deny it.
triangle.128k says2016-08-22T14:40:52.5237959Z
Of course the 2 Iranians are neo-Nazis that deny the holocaust...
triangle.128k says2016-08-22T14:48:26.0845204Z
@foxx Hitler hated the US and only liked the racial Germans within the country. Mein Kampf shows that Hitler wanted a pureblood Aryan society, and the US was too multi racial for him. With his totalitarian ideas and racial hierarchies, he could never have held a favorable view of the US. In addition, the US has had a sizable population of Eastern Europeans, Jews, and Blacks (all groups he hated).
foxxhajti says2016-08-22T14:52:24.3947032Z
@triangle.128k That's kind of the message I'm trying to convey through my explanations.
ricardo4444 says2016-08-22T23:24:15.4799846Z
We still have eyewitnesses alive today. I wonder how this debate will be when it resurfaces 50 years from now.
BrendanD19 says2016-08-22T23:31:03.6072798Z
That's exactly why I made this poll, to identify who actually denies these atrocities.
karlmarx59 says2016-08-23T00:59:11.3679188Z
Triangle 128k I don't like your tidbits of misinformation so shut up
karlmarx59 says2016-08-23T01:01:07.1065445Z
Throwback: anything you post is a knee slapper because it is so f*cking stupid, like you.
karlmarx59 says2016-08-23T01:05:15.0109118Z
BrendaD Good [poll, too bad Throw UP ruins every poll with his stupidity
karlmarx59 says2016-08-23T01:07:34.4151926Z
I still hate Americans
lightseeker says2016-08-23T01:21:45.1931534Z
If it wasn't a political hoax, researching and denying it with actual evidence wouldn't be illegal or banned in many countries, and people wouldn't lose their jobs or be called holocaust denier for talking against it. In the west, it's OK to talk against and deny God, it's OK to promote satanism and worship satan, it's OK to let kids have sex, but it's not OK to talk against holocaust. This enough proves that it didn't happen. Though the so called documents about holocaust, is solely based on confessions and testimonies. Ttp://nodisinfo.Com/holocaust-against-jews-is-a-total-lie-proof http://www.Holohoax101.Org/ http://rediscover911.Com/holohoax-a-15-year-olds-school-report-exposes-holocaust-lies/
karlmarx59 says2016-08-23T01:26:36.4663547Z
Lightseeker: I am German and the holocaust did happen, jerk
triangle.128k says2016-08-23T01:33:15.7010801Z
@karlmarx "I still hate Americans" Good, we hate you Nazis just as much as you hate us.
foxxhajti says2016-08-23T06:12:41.7572501Z
@lightseeker Holocaust denial is illegal in some countries because they have decided that the right to free-speech must be balanced against the right not to be subjected to racism, xenophobia, anti-Semitism and a potential revival of Nazism. The main countries in which it's illegal to do so, are the countries which were mostly directly affected by it. For example, in my country, it isn't illegal, because the holocaust didn't really affect us. Countries in which it's completely legal (http://rationalwiki.Org/wiki/List_of_countries_where_Holocaust_denial_is_legal). The European Union also has a Framework Decision for Combating Racism and Xenophobia (http://eur-lex.Europa.Eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?Uri=URISERV:l33058) by which signatories agree to criminalise inciting violence or hatred, against race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin, condoning, denying or grossly trivialising genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes. Some countries don't completely abide to this though. So it's mostly just fear that what happened in the past, will happen once again in the future.
jesusismywarrior says2016-08-23T09:35:46.8212379Z
As an Italian, I can confirm that the Holocaust truly did happen.
karlmarx59 says2016-08-23T16:41:00.6610205Z
Triangle128k: I assume you mean neo Nazis in America because I am not a Nazi I am a social Marxist. I do not subscribe to fascism nor do I hate Jews nor do I believe in mass genocide. Thank you for playing though.
karlmarx59 says2016-08-23T16:42:59.9253140Z
Jesusismywarrior isabslutely correct! :0
triangle.128k says2016-08-23T17:37:08.5317860Z
@karlmarx Fair enough Nazi, but we hate you smelly Germans as much as you hate us.
karlmarx59 says2016-08-23T19:09:04.7042642Z
Triangle128k: Hahaha, good one!
Christiansecor says2017-06-01T00:47:47.4799589Z
Most of the people saying it did happen claim that it is one of the most well documented event in human history. This is a blatant lie. There are very few actual survivors and in the coming years after the war, the number of people in the camps was far less than the modern number. Only when survivors began to receive reparations did the "survivors" come out of the woodwork. I could go on and on about the fake gas chambers, lack of Prussian Blue in supposed gas chambers, typhus outbreaks, and Allied strategic bombing which cut off supplies from the outside world to the camps but there are plenty of documentaries and books you can read if you really want to know the truth.

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