Did the REpublicans vote down the money for VETS because the are liars?

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58539672 says2015-09-16T16:30:00.6954767Z
Loaded question.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-09-16T20:26:00.7808954Z
Based on the debate that went on on the floor of the senate, it seems that democrats tried to immediately move on to this bill as a way to try and champion vet benefits after all the trouble that was caused earlier that year. A cover-up if you will. You can even look at Bernie Sanders' opening statements on the 'Comprehensive Veterans Health And Benefits And Military Retirement Pay Restoration Act Of 2014' and see what the environment was like and see what he was trying to set up. Sob story about bipartisanship ... Propose a $30 Billion dollar expansion of gov't services without mention of reforming the VA system thats in large part failing pre-2014 ... Propose that they take on an even larger healthcare role with even more patients ... And simultaneously route unregistered ones toward their pet healthcare exchange system. Genius tacticians, is what the democrats are.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-09-16T20:34:24.5081244Z
Question is ... How do you kill a bill for the vers that is guaranteed total bipartisanship in the senate? Let Bernie Sanders' name be on it and let him open the floor by calling people out on bad legislation democratic wins just beforehand.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-09-16T20:34:34.4609882Z
idoubtit says2015-09-16T23:45:38.9274625Z
Because who are liars? The democrats or the republicans or the vets?
briantheliberal says2015-09-17T06:17:33.7307059Z
Republicans have been voting against veterans for years now. They recently blocked over a dozen bills providing assistance and benefits to veterans that they voted to send to war and risk dying in the first place.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-09-17T13:08:28.1409742Z
Just saying ... It was all a political gains setup. And we dont vote to send them to war ... We have an all volunteer fighting force. We volunteer to send ourselves to war. Where congress plans to direct our attacks is inconsequential as far as what we as military personnel have signed up to do. Ad hoc benefits too. I knew full well what I was entitled to back when I signed up ... Im under know illusion that I deserve any more than that now after the fact. We have more volunteers than we know what to do with. And that same left leaning group is against using the force they are incentivizing growth in (because further benefits incentivize military service). Theyd just be growing a class they dont mean to take advantage of in any other way than to buy their votes! They arent going to use them for war. They want to buy them with gov't run programs the same way they have with the poor classes. Thats what this is all about.
chandlerrouse says2015-09-19T16:19:43.0697314Z
The REPUBLiCANS voted this down FREEDOM
chandlerrouse says2015-09-19T16:20:38.0295883Z
AC/DC why don't you just drop out sense this subject matter confounds you so much?
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-09-21T14:25:56.0880276Z
I know they voted it down. Did you perhaps read (or listen on cspan) to the republicans debate about this in congress when it was being proposed? They had reasons for it, and none of them happen to be any of the reasons you jumped to. It's just the chess game those two parties have been playing forever now. It doesnt show anything about Repubs being liars or unsupportive of the military. Read their statements/reasoning for it. The bill itself wasnt even at the forefront of their talks while it was on the floor.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-09-21T14:29:06.3936475Z
I dont think most Americans are really even surprised by this type of fighting anymore. But to say the outcome of the bill represents genuine feelings toward the military as a whole by any particular party is shortsighted. They're using these stances as tools to invoke public/mob opinions out of people like you. They couldn't otherwise care less.

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