Do consider Germany unified, even with an independent Austria?

Posted by: Theunkown

Answer in philosophical terms, not with a pedantic 'since Germany, as in the state, is not split up, it is unified'

  • Germany is Unified, Austria is not German

  • Germany isn't fully unified because Austria is independent.

67% 6 votes
33% 3 votes
  • Based on your description, I take it you are referring to the German people, not the nation. In which case, yes. Not all German speaking people are unified under one nation. The same could be said for a lot of demographics.

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UtherPenguin says2015-08-24T19:30:54.0325172Z
What Austria is to Germany is like what Canada is to the US. They may have very similar cultures, but whatever you do, don't mash them into one.
Emilrose says2015-08-24T19:38:11.7953416Z
@58539672, with that argument you could also say that Germany is technically not 'unified' without Switzerland or Luxembourg either--as they too have many ethnic Germans.
Emilrose says2015-08-24T19:38:38.9088368Z
And Liechtenstein.
58539672 says2015-08-24T19:40:24.2739384Z
@Emilrose Technically, yes. At the same time not all Spanish speaking people are unified or English speaking ones. Very few demographics can be found solely in one nation.
biggest_pro_going says2015-08-24T21:46:32.0100207Z
If you are saying that then you are saying that Russia is not unified without Belarus and east Ukraine
58539672 says2015-08-24T21:48:56.5344836Z
@biggest_pro_going Technically, yes. Their are many who identify as ethnically Russian in those regions.
Emilrose says2015-08-24T22:21:07.2867888Z
In that case the whole world should be unified under one country; to which you will most likely respond, 'technically, yes'.
Haroush says2015-08-24T22:59:02.6363296Z
This is a biased poll. A nation doesn't have to be united by government in order for it to be united. States can be independent and still be united with each other.
Haroush says2015-08-24T23:00:48.2822384Z
Why is it some people are fixated on an entire country being ran by the same rules? It is called liberty and independence jacka$$es!
58539672 says2015-08-24T23:11:15.9578099Z
@Emilrose I never said they should be unified, just that they aren't unified.
Theunkown says2015-08-25T16:58:54.2516646Z
@Haroush, I actually want an independent Austria, if anything I like dividing up countries more than uniting them, simply because they tend to be more peaceful and more efficiently governed. This poll isn't trying to promote an agenda, I just want to see what people think since people often refer to Germany being 'unified' after the Cold war, but the natural questions that arise are: What about Austria? If Bavaria was independent in place of Austria, would we still consider Germany unified?
Theunkown says2015-08-25T16:59:49.9908219Z
@Haroush, I support confederations, an unpopular opinion, but it certainly is not one that calls for the entire country being run by the same rules, but is rather the opposite.

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