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Yes they are anti southern and destroy our way of life

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Forcing lbgt and putting their problems here that we hafe to deal with just like flodia

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No they don't care about the way we do things

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Um no they don't do anything their just people who moved here

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triangle.128k says2015-08-22T16:28:13.9323542Z
The northern states are proven by statistics to be superior, they're richer, more developed and etc.
DelilahMacgounagheeeey says2015-08-22T16:31:21.8082581Z
Ohh nice... Did you learn how to make a poll in Nazi Germany?
TBR says2015-08-22T16:32:00.2430049Z
Most in the north don't give a rats ass about the south. They are just an embarrassing sibling.
tajshar2k says2015-08-22T16:40:54.9229205Z
As far as I'm concerned, the south is basically another country. It doesn't reflect the views of America.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-08-24T15:07:52.0906624Z
Or rather the north no longer reflects the views of America.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-08-24T15:12:22.3675924Z
Im not too worried about it though ... The north is beginning to crash and burn based on the values they upheld ... And the south is outpacing them based on the values they've managed to keep alive. Things are correcting themselves on their own. Its just a matter of holding out.
PericIes says2015-08-24T23:48:59.0398088Z
"Or rather the north no longer reflects the views of America." Oh, gee wiz man. I'm real sorry about how us Northerners keep changing your values. Like in the 1860's, when we decided that it would be better if the country weren't split in half and that you shouldn't be able to own fellow human beings as property, or in the 1950's-60's, when we introduced the South to the radical and divisive concept that you shouldn't treat people like sh!T all the time.
idoubtit says2015-08-25T00:06:19.4349859Z
Many of the comments here demonstrate that #3 is correct.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-08-25T13:33:41.5496931Z
@Pericles Keep going. Theres alot lot more than just anti-labor laws being pushed on us. How about how we tax. Insurance and SS. Environmental protection. Trade. They always gotta have their cut up there ... Dont they. Every socialist measure is something pushed down from the north ... And all you can do is hang your hat on slavery ... Every time. And thats my point really. Keep holding on to old victories and decadence. Its been killing those commonwealth states.
PericIes says2015-08-26T22:09:12.9803015Z
The North put more on the South than the lack of slavery, lol. Civil rights (aka not treating people like sh!T all the time), the unification of the country, the fact that global warming exists, the fact that evolution exists, separation of church and state, an industrialized (as opposed to an agrarian) society, labor unions, tolerance of people that are different than you, non-country music, food that doesn't come from a drive-through in a paper bag, the realization that inbreeding is wrong, gun control, etc. Also, you seem to have listed Social Security, a good thing, as a bad thing. Also, it makes sense that, on national and foreign affairs issues, the North should have more say than the South. The North has more people.
idoubtit says2015-08-27T02:44:32.4571792Z
First let's get one thing straight. The south never implemented slavery and most southerners never owned a slave. The British did before this ever was a country, then it was continued with the blessing of the north, which wanted the raw products produced in the south to feed northern industry. The whole civil war and slavery business is a lot more complicated than the crass and bigoted southerners=slavery business. And the worst objections to the end of slavery came from NORTHERNERS, mostly immigrants, who regarded freed slaves as competition for jobs. It was northerners who rioted over it, and attacked and murdered blacks. You really need to read ALL of the history of the civil war, slavery, etc, instead of Liberal Selective History 101. Incidentally, it was the Spanish and Portuguese who started slavery on this continent, the gallery ships, chains, etc. The initial slavery by the British on this continent was indentured servants, their own countrymen, other Europeans, and Africans , whoever volunteered. That's right, volunteered. Services traded for passage to America. They didn't adopt the Spanish version of it until later. To the topic, northerners have made life hell for themselves. Taxed to death, freedoms taken away, etc. A long history of riots and conflicting interests, due to the north being the place of most immigration until the last 30+ years. Southerners didn't have all that immigration, so managed to retain their own culture, much of which resists northern hell lifestyles and attitudes. Northerners seem to look for things to hate southerners over, and if they can't find it they will invent it. Well, it's not southerners fault that northerners are so miserable. Southerners just want to be left alone. Live however you want in your own land, but you don't have the right to force your lifestyle onto others.
PericIes says2015-08-27T03:40:31.9253172Z
@idoubtit I *think* that that was a reply to my comment, so I'll address it as such. If I'm incorrect in this assumption, I apologize. First of all, my last comment (as I thought people might have been able to tell, from the inbreeding, country music, fast food, and other remarks) was intended to be somewhat humorous. I didn't think that I'd have to explain that to people, but I stand corrected. Secondly, when replying to someone, you generally want to reply with a statement wherein at least half of the content in said statement is relevant to the person in question's original comment. For the record, I was already aware of all of the factual things that you mentioned (some weren't factual), but I don't see how anything that happened before the U.S. became a nation has anything to do with anything that I could possibly have been construed as saying. I never said that Southerners started slavery on this continent, which already renders over half of your rant invalid. I also never said that most Southerners owned slaves, but like every apologist, you were ready to draw that little tidbit like a gun, weren't you? I said that the South allowed and generally condoned slavery, which it did. Also, to address one of your factual errors, the strongest opposition to abolition definitely did NOT come from the North. There certainly was opposition, but nowhere near the level seen in the South, which went to war with the North over alleged past and impending infringement on states' rights, the most divisive and focal of which was, you guessed it, slavery. All your empty semi-saber-rattling at the end there doesn't really necessitate a a response, I don't think, so I'll just leave it to stew in its juices.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-08-27T13:23:47.0728447Z
For one ... The fact that you admitted to the north having pushed global warming (as an issue), labor unions, and gun control all support my argument as more negatives from the north ... So I wont go into those. Inbreeding is wrong? This coming from the same guy who just tried to talk about tolerance and civil rights? From the place that championed homosexuality for the nation too right? What an odd stance to take. And West Virgina was one of yours as I remember. There were only a few confederates there ... Most were union loyalists. Do we have to go into the inbreeding background there? Fast food - MCD is hq'd in IL, Wendy's in OH, Little Ceasers from Detroit, you guys invented the Hotdog for crying out loud. You have your fair share up there ... "the North should have more say than the South. The North has more people." It doesnt have more people. And on top of that it has less property/land ergo less vested interest. Less freedom even ... Which equates to less vested interest in the country or its affairs with other nations.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-08-27T13:26:50.7363539Z
For one ... The fact that you admitted to the north having pushed global warming (as an issue), labor unions, and gun control all support my argument as more negatives from the north ... So I wont go into those. Inbreeding is wrong? This coming from the same guy who just tried to talk about tolerance and civil rights? From the place that championed homosexuality for the nation too right? What an odd stance to take. And West Virgina was one of yours as I remember. There were only a few confederates there ... Most were union loyalists. Do we have to go into the inbreeding background there? Fast food - MCD is hq'd in IL, Wendy's in OH, Little Ceasers from Detroit, you guys invented the Hotdog for crying out loud. You have your fair share up there ... "the North should have more say than the South. The North has more people." It doesnt have more people. And on top of that it has less property/land ergo less vested interest. Less freedom even ... Which equates to less vested interest in the country or its affairs with other nations.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-08-27T15:17:46.0229979Z
We're overcomplicating this though. The question was posed "Do the northern states bully the south?", and all you had as an answer was subjective justification for said bullying.
58539672 says2015-08-27T16:42:17.4231354Z
The question asks if Northern States bully Southern States. I took this to mean the state governments of the North using political clout to force the South to make certain decision. This occurs to an extent, but not as much as it once did. The South is growing in population rapidly, thus gaining more seats in the HoR, which in turn increases their political clout, not the Norths. Also several valuable swing states are located in the South, so political pandering during election years is common nowadays. The issues that are forced upon the South nowadays are big headline getters, but are politically meaningless in a lot of ways.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-08-28T15:29:39.8866845Z
I don't think so. When the federal government tries to refuse money to a southern state for a social program championed by northern states (by a president from northern states) ... They are effectively taking the southern states money and using northern ideals to redirect and steal that money -or- force a behavior out of the southern state so they can receive their due funding. The only saving grace here in these instances is that southern states economies (especially in those swing states) are getting large enough now to tell the fed to F-off anyways. (example for all this being the medicare expansion agreement refused by Florida a few months back).
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-08-28T15:32:52.7436915Z
I wouldn't call those politically meaningless. Im going to base my presidential and state government votes largely on the fact that I don't want expansion or loss of tax dollars due to not expanding ever again. I definitely don't want liberals in the white house trying to bribe behaviors out of my state government ever again. Going to cut the head off the snake.
PericIes says2015-08-28T20:55:00.7452065Z
@FreedomBeforeEquality If you will notice, I was replying to idoubtit. That *may* be the reason that my points don't coincide with yours.
idoubtit says2015-08-31T03:16:55.6539215Z
@Pericles. Since coming to this site, I've seen too many to count comments bashing southerners with every insult imaginable. Full on hatred for southern culture and everything they do, think, believe, etc. So seeing this topic, and some of the comments, yes southerners do get bullied by northerners. A lot. This also applies to northern states bullying southern states. Liberals in northern states decide they want one thing or another, let's say gay marriage, since that's recent. But the southern states, conservative, don't want it. But it gets forced on them, despite the majority being against it. Then there was the confederate flag issue. A southern thing to be sure, and about southern pride. The vast majority of southerners wanted to keep their flag. Again, pressure from northerners. South Carolina was bullied into removing it.
PericIes says2015-08-31T03:43:53.1745975Z
@idoutbit Well, as I said in my vote, I don't think it's a "bully" mentality. The North isn't saying "we need to go mess with those guys down south." Both sides are pushing their agendas. The problem that the South faces is that the North has always had a much larger population. This means that, on national issues, the North gets its way more often. This doesn't mean that we're trying to bully, though. It's just how democracy works. I think that you're making the wrong case here. If what you want is for Northerners to stay out of Southern affairs, then argue for a smaller Federal government, rather than a retraction of Northern interests on a national scale.
idoubtit says2015-08-31T03:56:54.1599255Z
@PericIes You're probably right. And I am for decreased federal gov't, with the states governed by the majority of their own. I really think there would be a lot less friction that way. In any case, it is my view that southern states do get bullied by northern states.
PericIes says2015-08-31T03:58:40.2562056Z
Fair enough. I'm sorry that what I said came across as offensive. I was trying to be humorous, but I suppose that backfired. I do tend to have trouble with such things.
idoubtit says2015-08-31T03:59:53.0774724Z
Yeah well I feel calmer now that my saber is polished and gleaming.
idoubtit says2015-08-31T04:01:35.5545293Z
@pericles. That might have come out wrong. I wasn't threatening to behead you. Although, I did just come from an ISIS related poll.
PericIes says2015-08-31T04:01:41.3109662Z
Lol
PericIes says2015-08-31T04:03:13.5543575Z
It did not come out wrong.
LowInfoVoter says2015-09-01T03:15:00.4969437Z
I sense an epic rap battle of North vs. South pride.....Lets look at individual issues. Gun control: Chicago, NYC, Baltimore and New England are so safe....Not much crime. If the North is so great why the great migration to southern states for more bang for your buck? All in all who cares, we are all Americans paying our bills and making ends meet. United we stand, divided we fall.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-09-01T17:01:45.4936759Z
Thats just it though ... Divided only one of us would fall. That being the one who depends on our tax dollars the most to support their luxurious social program ridden gov'ts. The other would be just fine on their own.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-09-01T17:02:07.4434387Z
Thats just it though ... Divided only one of us would fall. That being the one who depends on our tax dollars the most to support their luxurious social program ridden gov'ts. The other would be just fine on their own.
idoubtit says2015-09-01T23:56:24.6648257Z
@freedomBeforeEquality. Exactly.
PericIes says2015-09-02T00:41:12.3641393Z
Mmkay XD

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