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This is a picture of kelli olaughlin who was 14 when she was stabbed to death in her home by a Black men. Of course no one cares because she was white and her killer was black.
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tajshar2k says2015-04-26T13:43:11.4123624-05:00
I don't understand your description for NO. It has nothing to do with your question.
PetersSmith says2015-04-26T13:44:02.3700454-05:00
Tajshar2k: She tries to convince people to vote for her opinion by appealing to emotion.
Dilara says2015-04-26T13:44:11.7000847-05:00
If she was so privileged than why was she stabbed to death?
Dilara says2015-04-26T13:45:33.9845951-05:00
I don't doubt that there are many problems that minorities have to deal with due to their race and that white people don't have to put up with those problems as much but I don't like the idea is assuming that someone is privileged just because the are white before you know their life story.
Dilara says2015-04-26T13:46:46.0342430-05:00
I'm using logic. If kelli olaughlin was so privileged than why wasn't she saved by the white privilege fairy?
Varrack says2015-04-26T13:50:18.9826440-05:00
The white privilege fairy was asleep when they were stabbed.
Dilara says2015-04-26T13:56:50.0016570-05:00
Yep. The white privilege fairy didn't save zemir begic when he was hammered to death for being white by a group of black send Hispanic teens. Being white was a disadvantage in his case.
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-26T13:56:56.0545346-05:00
What if you don't believe in fairies?
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-26T14:00:09.4758567-05:00
Heil, what if you have a beagle that is really good at tracking. Wouldn't it be stupid to not use that beagle just because it is a beagle. What if you have a bloodhound that is horrible at tracking, it would be stupid to use that bloodhound just because it is a bloodhound.
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-26T14:00:57.3896856-05:00
"What if you don't believe in communism and thus don't believe in racial equality?" I don't believe communism works yet I believe in racial equality.
Varrack says2015-04-26T14:01:23.5355638-05:00
White privilege is a 100% myth. Only politically correct people believe in it.
Dilara says2015-04-26T14:02:17.8831503-05:00
Being white didn't save her from being stabbed to death. Where was her white privilege?
TBR says2015-04-26T14:04:16.8069852-05:00
You really can't think of any reason why your example is immaterial to the question?
Dilara says2015-04-26T14:05:04.2310237-05:00
What do you mean tbr
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-26T14:06:32.0763194-05:00
Even if there was such a thing as white privilege, it wouldn't prevent a murder from happening.
Dilara says2015-04-26T14:08:52.2226712-05:00
It would prevent whites from being victims of racist attack witch happens all the time and from dealing with hardships like disease, injury, poverty, disability, abuse ect. And since there are plenty of white people who deal with these things white privilege doesn't seem to exist.
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-26T14:09:10.1027298-05:00
"Well individual exceptions exist for pretty much everything in society but that doesn't mean generalizations aren't efficient. Ask any employer if they'd rather hire a homeless man or a person with a degree in engineering to construct a bridge and he/she'll always say the person with the degree. Is it possible that some homeless man happened to be better at engineering? Yes. But in general everyone agrees that generalizations are good." Generalizations tend to be inefficient when the is a very high deviation.
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-26T14:12:02.5307530-05:00
"Generalizations tend to be inefficient when there is a very high deviation." Typo fixed.
triangle.128k says2015-04-26T14:15:56.5851566-05:00
@heil49 The average asian has an IQ higher than the average white. And it's just averages, there are very intelligent black people and very dumb Asians in existance.
TBR says2015-04-26T14:20:50.8397119-05:00
You don't seem to have the slightest clue what logic is. I would talk to this, but on my phone. Suffice to say, white privilege is not a magic shield from all bad events
triangle.128k says2015-04-26T14:21:36.3666796-05:00
There's no such thing as white privilege, it's just some concept spread around by people from stormfront.Org
triangle.128k says2015-04-26T14:29:05.8304750-05:00
You're from stormfront? Lmao.
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-26T14:29:18.0142312-05:00
Heil if your statistics were correct. You would still be stupid to discriminate. Lets say you have a job that needs the person operating to an IQ higher than 100. 50% of whites would be eligible, 42.07% of blacks would be eligible. It would be incredible stupid to give up such a large part of your workforce just because it has 7.03% less people eligible.
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-26T14:35:42.2931830-05:00
Heil50 account has already passed away. Wasn't there something that was supposed to happen when he got to 50?
Dilara says2015-04-26T14:54:40.3129476-05:00
Tbr I don't deny the existence of missing white women syndrome or driving while black ect. I understand that there are many problems specific to minorities due to their race. But same thing with white people.
triangle.128k says2015-04-26T14:57:08.8268516-05:00
So heil, you think anybody born non-white is pathetic and should be gotten rid of?
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-26T14:59:32.8946986-05:00
You do know there is such a thing as job interviews. Hiring based on race would be stupid in the first place, even with your best case scenario, 50% of your workers aren't qualified. If you were to hire based on actual ability, you end up getting 100% of your workers qualified, and 54% of your workers would be white with 46% being black.
triangle.128k says2015-04-26T15:02:23.6824705-05:00
7 accounts in one poll, I can't stop laughing.
triangle.128k says2015-04-26T15:03:04.4022102-05:00
What happened to heil's pro-hitler anti-communists/jewish polls? Those were a lot funnier than his racist trolls.
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-26T15:03:05.9635549-05:00
You would end up being highly efficient. A large percentage of each group doesn't follow the specialization.
TBR says2015-04-26T15:50:25.0869968-05:00
@Dilara - So our special problem is being victims of crime?
TBR says2015-04-26T15:52:51.1853018-05:00
And we all should seriously give a hand to Heil. 7 Accounts created in the span of the lifetime of this poll. That is... Remarkable.
Dilara says2015-04-26T17:37:08.5713086-05:00
700 anti white hate crimes a year according to the fbi and growing with all of the race baiting. Tbr do you know who david santucci and zemir begic are?
TBR says2015-04-26T19:39:41.9219746-05:00
Dilara - Do we have to do this again? Read this first then lets talk. Http://www.Fbi.Gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2013-hate-crime-statistics
tajshar2k says2015-04-26T19:46:11.6681778-05:00
Brian, why did you vote yes??
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-26T19:52:14.3728278-05:00
"Http://www.Fbi.Gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2013-hate-crime-statistics" TBR, it didn't give the race of the victims of bias against race crimes.
TBR says2015-04-26T19:53:56.8973422-05:00
Nope, but it gave totals, right?
TBR says2015-04-26T19:55:09.6254746-05:00
Mathgeek - Let Dilara do some actual work. A little math while she is at it.
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-26T20:00:15.0346079-05:00
Exactly what totals are you looking at?
TBR says2015-04-26T20:01:29.3347138-05:00
Involving 6,933 offenses as being motivated by a bias toward a particular race
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-26T20:03:12.5257604-05:00
Uh... TBR you cut off most of the sentence.
TBR says2015-04-26T20:03:25.4622314-05:00
So... At about 12% of population, how many should we expect from blacks?
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-26T20:03:26.5854458-05:00
"Law enforcement agencies reported 5,928 criminal incidents involving 6,933 offenses as being motivated by a bias toward a particular race, gender, gender identity, religion, disability, sexual orientation, or ethnicity in 2013."
TBR says2015-04-26T20:05:07.5031396-05:00
I know who Dilara is parroting, and I give no credence to him.
TBR says2015-04-26T20:05:51.4474364-05:00
So, what is 12.5% of 7000?
TBR says2015-04-26T20:07:51.9423269-05:00
What number has no actual source to check?
TBR says2015-04-26T20:08:35.6586481-05:00
What number is meant to play to emotion?
TBR says2015-04-26T20:11:38.2569492-05:00
Now mathgeek Let Dilara do some of the work. Let her back her number. I know she cant't
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-26T20:33:14.2903648-05:00
Well, I don't know what was the purpose of the statistic you gave. It really didn't say much.
TBR says2015-04-26T20:37:36.1709222-05:00
1) Her number is to play on some emotion, without actual fact to back. 2) Even if correct is in line with population. 3) The number given has no point of reference. 700 could be out of high or low and we wouldn't know by reading her post.
TBR says2015-04-26T20:44:38.4995402-05:00
When Dilara says ~"700 things happened" I first said to myself. 1) Where is your proof THEN 2) Wait, is that high/low or what? Sound low actually, let me look. ||| THEN I see the number, and, even if her number is accurate (no reason to think it is) it seems right in line with population. So... So what?
Stefy says2015-04-26T21:05:28.4343612-05:00
Dilaria it doesnt mean nothing bad will ever happen to white people or that white people always have it easy. It means their is a very specific set of problems that as a white person you will never face. The fact is if you anda black person commit the exact same violent crime they are more likey to get the death sentence. It means it you do drugs and they do drugs theh will get a harsher sentence. They will get stopped on the street more they will be targeted more by hate group. PURLEY ON THE BASIS OF SKIN COLOR they face more problems than you do in the basis of your skin color not that they face more problems in general
Dilara says2015-04-26T22:21:01.6028780-05:00
Stefy. I don't do drugs or commit crimes so I won't have to deal with the first two examples you gave. If an African American (or anyone for that matter) commits a crime they should get sentenced and we should blame their actions and not some made up privilege. How about they don't commit the crime in the first place? You really seem to dislike white people I acknowledge the problems minorities face purely because of their race.
Dilara says2015-04-26T22:27:25.4953386-05:00
Stefy seriously. There are 700 anti white hate crimes a year according to the fbi. 700. And you say we won't ever get attacked by racially based hate groups. Mathew Owens in mobile Alabama was beaten nearly to death with rods by a group of black People as justice for trayvon martin. Zemir begic was hammered to death by a group of black and Hispanic teens who yelled "kill white people". Kevin Shiflet an 8 year old in Virginia had his throat slit by a Black man because the killer "hated white people" Anti white hate crimes happen all the time. Take a look at white girl bleed a lot by Colin flahertyz he lists 500 instances of Black mob violence between 2010 and 20-3. 500. Majorly those instances were anti white. You must really hate white people to make such a statement.
triangle.128k says2015-04-27T04:43:02.7833602-05:00
Heil, what happened to your Hitler glorifying trolls. Now you'really just being racist, your Hitler comments were a lot funnier.
Stefy says2015-04-27T05:47:06.7662414-05:00
Yeah dilara but you are far less likley to face a hate group and im not saying that minirities should not face punishment for crimes im syaing if you were to commit the same crime or any whitte person was to commit the exact same crime as a black person, the black person would face a harsher sentence. And im glad you recognize the problems minorities face purley based on race. Because the fact that they face more purley racial based problems than whites is white privilege. And its not that they will never be aattacked by hate crimes. Its that there are less organized and widley recognized hate grouos against whites and fix news doesnt come on everyday and talk about what lazy moochers you are. I am white i dont hate white people i hust have empathy for people outside my race
TBR says2015-04-27T09:56:37.7789750-05:00
Dilara - "Stefy seriously. There are 700 anti white hate crimes a year according to the fbi. 700. And you say we won't ever get attacked by racially based hate groups." Did you look at my posts? Did you understand the point I was making? And, while we are at it, got a link for your number?
TBR says2015-04-27T10:00:34.9800160-05:00
This graph will help too. Http://media4.S-nbcnews.Com/j/newscms/2014_16/326421/140415-hate-crimes-by-race-2259_8f2eb71bfa345ac0669fad850cfd4b8d.Nbcnews-ux-560-400.Jpg
TBR says2015-04-27T10:11:03.2312704-05:00
"7,164 people were victims of hate crimes last year, down about seven percent from 7,713 in 2011." -- "According to the report, nearly half of all reported hate crimes were racially motivated, with 66 percent deemed anti-black, and 22 percent anti-white. In 2011, the data revealed that 71 percent of racially motivated crimes were committed against blacks and 16 percent against whites."
TBR says2015-04-27T10:12:20.5614618-05:00
Now, attempt to adjust those for demographics. Whites are 77.7%, blacks ~12.5%. Are you getting the picture?
TBR says2015-04-27T10:18:41.0503398-05:00
So Dilara, if you want to look at hate crimes, it looks a like this. 7,164 total for 2012. Of that total that gets 4,728 targeting blacks and 1,576 targeting whites. If it were distributed by demographics, using the same percentages, the proper number would be 895 targeting blacks, and 5,516 targeting whites. Do you still want to argue your hate crime point?
Dilara says2015-04-27T16:05:01.7671627-05:00
1500 anti white crimes a year
Stefy says2015-04-27T16:08:14.5734434-05:00
Dilara: Thats not what you said before did you just make it up? And in addition to this, black people also face far more workplace and housing discrimination as well as more police brutality and injustice in the legal system as well as everyday aggressions and biases that white people don't face.
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-27T16:16:04.9177865-05:00
TBR, you are making a statistical error. I am going to tell you how in PM.
TBR says2015-04-27T16:53:06.1695506-05:00
@Dilara - Right, and look the the percentage of black victims. I ask again (since I was the one who had to go looking) why make this argument? The numbers are terrible for your point.
TBR says2015-04-27T18:59:29.5015430-05:00
After discussions with Mathgeek regarding circles and triangles doing terrible things to each-other, we have agreed the most honest way to express this is as a ratio using the current numbers, not a perspective distribution. You as a white person have a 1:52k chance of being a vic of a hate crime vs a black person at 1:26k. As a white person, a member of the majority population, only a minority of people CAN be bias against you even if the minority is MORE biased against the majority. Regardless, the ratio is what it is, and white people are CURRENTLY much less likely to be the vic of hate crime.
Dilara says2015-04-27T21:02:46.9557483-05:00
A black person is more likely to commit a hate crime against a white than vice versa. And 25 times more likely to murderer a white than vice versa (fbi. 400 black I white murderers a year, 180 white on Black murderers a year. 40 million blacks and 200million whites)
TBR says2015-04-27T21:05:02.5370865-05:00
@Dilara - That is simply untrue. I went looking and got the numbers you could only guess at. I presented them, worked to resolve the most ethical way to present them, and you still just blather.
TBR says2015-04-27T21:07:11.6003583-05:00
Try including some references with your numbers. I know you want to be taken seriously, but its hard when you do things like toss out "700" above with no references.
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-27T21:10:14.7478861-05:00
Dilara, if you can provide your FBI murder link, you might be able to beat TBR on that point.
Dilara says2015-04-27T21:35:03.6991196-05:00
It's fbi expanded homicide data table 6. I wasn't talking about hate crime murderers I'm talking about murderers in general.
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-27T21:36:08.0095568-05:00
Can you give a link, it makes it much easier to check.
Mister_Man says2015-04-27T21:59:11.5907405-05:00
Mathgeek - http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6 - This shows that 448 blacks murdered whites, whereas 193 whites murdered blacks. So we can see that more than double the interracial homicides are black-on-white over white-on-black.
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-27T22:05:35.6575757-05:00
Misterman, I knew the statistic was there, I actually already looked at it. I also agree with DIlara on this issue. I would just like for her to post links when she sources her arguments, it makes it much easier for people see her points.
Mister_Man says2015-04-27T22:19:32.0832378-05:00
Yeah good point.
birdlandmemories says2015-09-25T01:59:51.7356568Z
No.

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