"I don't care what religion you are as long as you leave it out of politics."
For it to be left out of politics you would have to start by not identifying them as Muslim, and they would have to stop identifying as Muslim in any public capacity.
Do you think a Muslim that can leave his religion out of his life for a presidential term even exists? I don't think they are called Muslim if they can. Some sort of weekend believer?
If a person can be labeled religious in the first place, don't you think their beliefs are at least somewhat engrained in them to the point where they will not be able to run the office in a totally neutral fashion? It's impossible.
Because enough reasonable people vote to keep those types in check.
Im not saying by the book ... But he's at least trying to live up to someone elses standard (god) and not entirely that of his constituents.
Ill be the first to say it ... Most of those presidents that label christian only do it for the votes. Same as the ones who label themselves family oriented. (... Glaring at Hilary and Bill over here ...)
"An entire nation can't possibly share the same ideals."
Then really ... What makes them a nation at all? They have to have some type of common ground to stand on. The entire nation isn't just here because of birthright.
"More than having every president be a Protestant except 1"
Again they only claim that as a safety for your vote. I seriously doubt all of them were devout protestants up to the election. Perhaps the fact that they were lying about it is a worse trait than being religious in the first place, idk.
"Race, religion, gender, and sexuality should never be considered when voting."
I have to disagree. I think that it should, because they are being thrust into foreign nations as our representative ... And those nations look at those things. We can't live in our own bubble on this one. There is a certain tact to appealing to other nations through our representative. To be as effective as possible in those theaters we might have to put on a face they like. That is a presidents job, they are a face for the nation.
@FreedomBeforeEquality - "Race, religion, gender, and sexuality should never be considered when voting." I have to disagree. I think that it should, because they are being thrust into foreign nations as our representative ... And those nations look at those things." || I COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!!. That is why us being blind to this, choosing woman, black, gay is critical. LEADERSHIP. What good is it to be the leader if we don't lead.
Whoa whoa whoa ... You think it's our job to lead the rest of those fools? Where is that goal stated at in the mission statement that is our constitution? We only owe one group of people here that sort of image ... And thats US citizens. The rest of those countries are free to do whatever they want without our 'leadership'. Our rep should be sent there solely in the capacity to do good for us ... Not to impress our beliefs on the rest of the world.
Those are some of the things that define a person. Not sure why we wouldn't want to consider Sa many factors as possible about a person. Especially one as important as the religion they follow. That says alot about a person and what policies they support.
@freedombeforeequality so, if person A has brilliant policies, person B has not as good but sorta in the same level as person A's, person A is Muslim and person B is Christian, you'd choose person B right?
They don't have to be jihadist ... That's way too extreme ... Rather just male dominant, put more weight in divine right and god than in people's ability to rule themselves. Those ideas would make for bad policy and a bad leader for this country at least. Might be a great leader elsewhere, but not in the US.
Those guys aren't Christians. They clearly put on that farce to get a Christian to vote for them. Get real.
As far as supporting their constituents against gay rights ... Thats just the politicians mirroring the voice of the people. They want to stay in office ... They have to pass legislation that those same Christians that voted for them wanted or theyre seat is gone.
@freedombeforeequality Ignoring the 14th amendment, around 60% of people support gay marriage according to wall street journal, human rights campaign, and CNN. Hmm, sounds a little bit like what, oh I don't know, the people WANT!!
Also all 3 of those sources are liberal ... So im sure that number is high balling it. But it being close to 50/50 is definitely why its causing changes in legislation today -and- why its seen as a big ticket item for most people. Alot of people disagree over the issue. It can't be said that thats what they want yet.
What's the number they said? In truth its probably the average of the two.
But then again ... No one polled me or anyone I know on this. I'm sure the numbers just thoroughly inaccurate either way. All I gotta say is put it to a vote and watch what happens. I'm betting that 60% of yours turns out to be <40% in a vote. Don't let media hype get your hopes up.