• Yes

  • No

69% 27 votes
31% 12 votes
  • I don't agree with the method which Russia used to get it back, but it should probably be a part of Russia, yes.

  • Ukraine is in no state to take it back, so yes. It is Russia's.

  • Well, they successfully annexed it, and Ukraine never took it back so...

  • Look on a map please. If Crimea didn't become part of Russia then why were there sanctions?

  • It is, legally

  • The vote was iverwhelmingly russian, so yes.

  • I don't agree with how Putin took Crimea, but Crimea was traditionally Russian... even before the U.S.S.R. It was Russia's only fertile farming lands, and their best trade ports. It was given to the Ukraine when the Soviet Union fell. The majority of the populace of the Crimea region speak Russia, were still Russian citizens, and wanted Crimea to be part of Russia again. Putin took the Crimea region by force instead of procuring through negotiations.

  • Plexon_Warrior Said it.

  • It was unlawfully seized in violation of numerous international laws against the will of at least half the citizens, if the people had voted to give it to russia, then it should be considered part of russia, but since it wasn't no

  • Crimea is ethnically largely Russian with many considering themselves as Russians. The Peninsula used to be part of Russia before it was given to Ukraine and I see no problem with them going back. What I do have a problem with is them doing it illegally. Russia broke quite a few international agreements to seize Crimea, including one that if Ukraine dismantled its nuclear arsenal, Russia would respect Ukraine's boarders. By law, Ukraine is completely right to start building warheads again among other things. Its too late to undo it however, so officially transferring Crimea over to Russia will probably be part of any future negotiations. Until then, it is still illegal.

  • It is apart of Ukraine.

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Vox_Veritas says2015-08-08T22:58:03.0449364Z
Crimea is a de facto Russian territory. However, this is illegitimate according to a basic understanding of international law.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-08T23:13:13.1563848Z
@Hanspete: 97% of people voted to join Russia in the referendum. Also, over 60% of the people living in Crimea are ethnic Russians.
stargate says2015-08-08T23:40:41.2429350Z
That vote has not done by a third party. It could easily have been changed by Russia. Also I wouldn't be that shocked if they did, you can hate the USA military intervention. But we do not steal land from other nations any more. If we did Iraq, Afghanistan and many other nations would be a US territory. I wouldn't mind that due to I think they would have more freedoms that way. So they would be better off. But we haven't done that, Russia has done that in Ukraine, if yes they did a vote. But they didn't do a vote when they took georgian land, look at the Russian Georgian war.
stargate says2015-08-08T23:41:07.0455004Z
Also Russia has high corruption rates, and has a bad human right record.
Hanspete says2015-08-08T23:41:49.0721698Z
That is the exact reason why I don't consider it a vote.
TheChristian says2015-08-08T23:49:02.5381628Z
With all due respect, I disagree
stargate says2015-08-08T23:50:55.2332852Z
With all due respect I disagree with you.
stargate says2015-08-08T23:54:05.3205037Z
It was not done by a third party. Russia has been putting pressure on the neighbor countries. Also before the war ij Ukraine his popularity dropped a lot. After it, he has more popular then he ever was. He could have easily changed it so this would happen. Also could be used as a navel base. A base Russia wants, look at Russia these past years. Attacking neighbors threating them. High corruption rates, poor human rights record. This all sounds pretty fishy.
stargate says2015-08-09T00:00:34.8377862Z
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stargate says2015-08-09T00:00:41.9982321Z
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stargate says2015-08-09T00:00:57.8323336Z
I am willing to debate anyone on this topic.
TheChristian says2015-08-09T00:02:36.3953798Z
Then retake the vote.
Hanspete says2015-08-09T00:03:16.5328227Z
Without russian invovlement or will hey be allowed to tamper again?
stargate says2015-08-09T00:11:48.7793207Z
It will never be without Russia changeing the vote in there favor. Look at Russia's history these past years. It has not been good. There will never be a true vote with Putin in office. Oh and how long has he been in office now? And how as the votes been oh thats right questionable. Oh and what organisation was a once part in? Oh thats right the KGB, russias version of the cia. But they where far far worse then the cia. Here is a link if you want more info the go look at history https://en.M.Wikipedia.Org/wiki/KGB
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T00:15:32.2803390Z
The events before the vote show that people supported Russia in Crimea. Crimeans took over Crimea even before the vote. Over 60% of people there are Russians. At least a majority supported joining Russia. There is no evidence so suggest the vote was false.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T00:16:25.9602831Z
Get it into your head that this is 2015. During the Soviet era the KGB may have been bad but at least Russia isn't trying to take over the world.
greatkitteh says2015-08-09T00:19:40.1207421Z
Who invades more countries? Russia and north Korea, or america? Hint: Kim jong un at least kills his people, and not serbians, Syrians, Iraqis, and libians.
stargate says2015-08-09T00:23:23.4657594Z
Um you might want to look at the news. Russia has been more hostile. Russia keeps on flying near US air space. Go into NATO's nations airspaces with bombers and are forced out. They have attacked Ukraine and Georgia. Now more then ever is likr the Cold War. Yet most of the people living there didn't want to be in Russia. I want a third party to redo it, someone who is not a NATO ally, and not a Russian ally. Also that dose not change the facts of Russias high corruption rate, and low human rights record. Oh and if you look at the news and history. Then you would see a lot of people who disagree with putin and get the people on there silde. Well go missing, unsloved cases, politcal figures dieing overnight. Also that dose not change what he has done. No mattwe how you look at it Russia is trying to remake the Soviet Union. The world is changing, and you need to open your eyes and see what is happening.
stargate says2015-08-09T00:26:16.8452708Z
When do you ever want a spy as the president. A persion whos job was to kill anyone who spoke out against the country. Also there are very few people who ever speack out against him. Free speach is not allowed it the nation. If you say something the government sees as damageing to the current government it is a crime. That is not a free nation.
tajshar2k says2015-08-09T00:29:28.1492971Z
@greatkitteh If America didn't do this, somebody else would have, or people would be blaming America for not intervening. It isn't just America who holds double standards.
stargate says2015-08-09T00:31:50.3754088Z
The USA has attacked more I will be the first to say that. But we havn't taking there land, we usually try to not kill civilians. We never line them up and kill them, or throw them into a jail for say I do not agree with you. We attack people who are killing there own people. Russia attack to create barriers, and gain land. Plus we tell the UN strait up we are attacking this nation. Russia has military exercises that break of into Ukraine. No warning at all, and stealing there land. Who is the lesser of two evils. I will tell you the USA. I can give you tons of reasons why Russia is worse then the USA. I will debate you on it if you want.
stargate says2015-08-09T00:34:41.1185033Z
Where dose Ukraine rebles get all those weapons? Um lets see who would me more then willing to oh Russia. Also rebles have said russians are helping them. Russia is fighting a war, a war they try to hide.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T00:50:57.3275754Z
For a start, Russia invaded Georgia in 2008, not 2015. Theres a 7 year span there. As for Ukraine, Russia is currently observing the ceasefire and not attacking anybody. Speaking about Russia attacking other countries, did you hear about Obama's decision to support American backed rebels in Syria with air support? This is an excuse to bomb Assad. Also, I'm sick of you getting into my polls with your propaganda.
stargate says2015-08-09T01:00:24.3132099Z
It is a poll, I can state my reasoning. Okay with the reasoning of the georgian russian war. You can not bring up the Iraq war, and Afghanistan war. Due to there being older then the georgian war. Did I ever say we should back rebles? No plus not rebles in the middle east, one minute they help you the other they turnn into ISIS. Also I will not stop, sorry but I am not sorry. I will state my reasons, I will not stop. Also these are facts, you might hate me bringing up why Russia has failed under putin's leadership but live with it.
stargate says2015-08-09T01:01:29.0536249Z
I am not going to stop defending what I belive in. Hate me if you want but I will not stop.
stargate says2015-08-09T01:02:27.4603993Z
Though I find it funny you hate me stateing why I disagree with you, and backing it up with facts.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T01:03:49.9693282Z
Then I won't respond to brainwashed Americans.
stargate says2015-08-09T01:05:32.6631721Z
Says the Russian XD. You most hate amercians. Most likely amercians who stand up against Russia.
stargate says2015-08-09T01:05:52.5688997Z
You need to learn how to accept other opinions.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T01:07:00.6805507Z
I have nothing against America or Americans. I do have something against people who can't see both sides of the story and bring Fox news to this website.
stargate says2015-08-09T01:07:17.1370418Z
You know you are spreading Russian propaganda.
stargate says2015-08-09T01:08:29.3187045Z
I understand both sildes XD. Also I usally do not watch Fox News.
stargate says2015-08-09T01:09:21.9222417Z
So you are a CNN guy, um.. I have nothing against them. But I just do not like CNN they are way to liberal for me.
stargate says2015-08-09T01:11:00.7816898Z
Wait what did you say my poll? You didn't make this poll unless you are a puppet of UtherPenguin.
stargate says2015-08-09T01:11:17.6141977Z
Or is everything saying Russia yours?
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T01:15:36.2794558Z
If you knew both sides everything you said wouldn't be anti Russia.
stargate says2015-08-09T01:18:27.6777545Z
Oh I know, but I am anti Russia. Well let me say something I am fine with Russias people. I do not support Putin and the poltical leaders in Russia. They are corrupt, and the attack on Ukraine, and georgia makes me feel all the more anti russia. I think that they have gone to far, they need to pull out of ukraine, and remove corruption and fix human rights.
stargate says2015-08-09T01:19:24.6961200Z
I formed my own opinion, hate me if you want don't belive me if you want. But I believe in what I sai, ans stand for.
stargate says2015-08-09T01:19:47.3006649Z
Alsoyou didn't answer the question.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T01:24:17.5083826Z
Corruption is a major problem in many countries.
stargate says2015-08-09T01:27:38.2036691Z
True but it is higher then in the USA, now answer the question. "Wait what did you say my poll? You didn't make this poll unless you are a puppet of UtherPenguin"
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T01:41:48.0987315Z
I didn't make this poll.
stargate says2015-08-09T01:45:12.9436446Z
You said my polls, so.....Unless you are a puppet then you didn't make this. So why did you say it?
stargate says2015-08-09T01:45:43.5978411Z
Okay, but why did you say that then? I will believe you if you give me a good reason.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T02:31:18.1845560Z
I don't know Einstein. Maybe its just my opinion?
Jman9000 says2015-08-09T02:35:36.5862268Z
I do now...
jrr8808 says2015-08-09T02:44:14.2755453Z
Doesnt matter if it was lawful or not for Russia to take it, but they did anyway so its theirs. Some people can say Texas is illegally occupied by the United States from Mexico. A war was fought the winner took the land. Ukraine lost so its Russias.
jrr8808 says2015-08-09T02:48:35.9828229Z
And about America taking over the world Russia would do the same their just to broke no military and not a big enough dick to flex. USA rules
stargate says2015-08-09T02:50:52.9032862Z
Well okay.........
PericIes says2015-08-09T02:53:22.9138478Z
https://youtu.be/5DmYLrxR0Y8?t=31
58539672 says2015-08-09T02:54:42.5991586Z
@jrr8808 Thats not an accurate comparison. Texas gained its independence from Mexico, spent several years as an independent country, and then joined the Union under its own volition (Congress can't force a state to join). The US didn't invade Mexico and take Texas. Plus everything was recognized as legitimate. It would be an accurate comparison if Crimea rebelled against Ukraine,, became independent, and then join Russia (which would actually be legal), but that didn't happen.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T02:58:04.8076548Z
Crimea DID rebel against Ukraine. Then it hosted a referendum and decided to join Russia.
jrr8808 says2015-08-09T02:59:23.5585740Z
Russia can take there one and only aircraft carrier and kiss Americas ass. America beat the Soviet Union without firing a shot. We beat there ass with the almighty dollar
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T03:02:55.9679212Z
Funny how a country that supposedly beat Russia needs to hide behind Europe to do anything.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T03:03:39.6638013Z
Seems mighty NATO was unable to stop Russia from annexing Crimea. Oh and the American puppet government in Kiev was unable to win the war.
58539672 says2015-08-09T03:04:28.2737129Z
@RussiaPutinBest Russian forces invaded the peninsula before the referendum even took place. That turns the entire affair into an occupation of another nations territory, not an independent state voluntarily joining another. If the Referendum was hosted before Russian forces invaded, the entire thing would be legal. That did not happen.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T03:04:32.3453390Z
All the wars Putin waged were short resulting in quick victories but America sure seems to have a lot of trouble in the middle east with all their spending on military budget.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T03:05:24.1376710Z
You really need to read the news. The referendum was hosted by Crimeans, not Russians. American propaganda can go to hell.
stargate says2015-08-09T03:07:32.3704930Z
Um no, have you seen Ukrainian the war isn't over. Plus we are now in a cold war. So trust me if putin keeps on doing this we will not let him. We will soon get a republican as president. And you know we like wars more then democrats do.
stargate says2015-08-09T03:12:49.8325280Z
Yet it Russia was the one that looked over it. Plus russia had troops in the Crimea. If russia want a war then we can give them a war. We have a better trained military, more man power then Russia. If it nukes fly then the world ends. Russias only ally China is weak. Yes China has a lot of men, but the have no real cain of command. They lack the proper training. They do not have a large military buget. NATO has the most troops in the world. It has has 70% of all the owrlds military spending. If we ever go to war Russia loses. Now I am not saying there will be a world left though.
stargate says2015-08-09T03:14:57.5661468Z
Russia is attacking weak nations, saying they are mistreating Russians. For one they really are not, Russia has a bad human rights recond so they are not one to talk about that. Russia just wants land and power, the USA has created a more stable world. Without us the world would fall into choas.
58539672 says2015-08-09T03:15:19.6246882Z
Russian forces occupied the Supreme Court of Crimea on February 23. Russian troops occupied the peninsula on March 18. The Referendum was held on May 25. Crimea was not an independent nation when Russia invaded, so it is illegal. If they waited till after the referendum, then it would be legal. That didn't happen.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T03:15:23.3375120Z
Ye with American aggression there may not be any more world left. Lets not forget that it was America who dropped the two atomic bombs on a non-nuclear country.
stargate says2015-08-09T03:15:41.1996265Z
I think we should put a trade embargo on Russia. That and send troops to help Ukrainian.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T03:16:54.1005082Z
Pro Russian gunmen stormed that building, not Russians. There is no proof besides the word of Obama of any of this.
stargate says2015-08-09T03:19:26.6070858Z
America? Really us it is all because of us. Yeah right this is due to Russia attacking nations that are wanting to silde with us. Russia is trying to create a new soviet union. Also they are the ones still biulding a massive amount of nucks. Also said they would lanch nucks if we ever send troops into Ukrainian. I am telling here and now I would rather die then join russia. We have good reasons attacking the nations we attack. And even then we stay and try to rebuild the nation. Unlike russia moveing in and moveing out.
stargate says2015-08-09T03:21:06.0109230Z
Sure they where....I mean ISIS just magicaly has amercian weapons. Just pro russians have russian weapons. Not just ak's no the full motherload.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T03:21:11.0169407Z
Yes because America is an exceptional country, thats why America can attack whoever they want.
stargate says2015-08-09T03:21:58.3632442Z
Those nations governments where killing civilians. They also supported terrorism.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T03:22:06.5844969Z
Oh and ISIS would never have existed had America not invade Iraq in 2003, just so you know. America's good reason for invading other countries.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T03:22:46.9731558Z
And look at Libya, America overthrew the government, and democracy hasn't replaced it as America said.
58539672 says2015-08-09T03:23:21.4337767Z
Except for the fact that those "pro-Russians" were born in Russia and not Ukrainian. Many of them served in the Russian military.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T03:23:42.0727090Z
Why are you so certain a Republican president will be elected anyway?
stargate says2015-08-09T03:24:22.6017688Z
And lets not foget Russians just magicalt dieing when they speackout against putin.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T03:25:33.0729824Z
Please shut up. Quit reading western news and pretending to know anything.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T03:26:40.2455525Z
I'm sick of you two parrots repeating the same thing over and over again. I know Obama says Russia is evil and America is good, god is with America, the devil is with Russia. Doesn't mean you have to listen to it.
58539672 says2015-08-09T03:26:56.0526971Z
We'll stop using western propaganda when you stop using Russian propaganda.
stargate says2015-08-09T03:27:48.5715035Z
And you think Putin is a god, and wonderful your point. Also we live in the west so why wouldn't we like the west?
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T03:27:51.3777032Z
Ok I'm done talking to you idiots.
stargate says2015-08-09T03:28:53.3275186Z
And there goes he goes. I gues not means you give up......
stargate says2015-08-09T03:29:26.1813292Z
Yet we used facts you didn't.
58539672 says2015-08-09T03:29:48.6123851Z
And its not just Western media that is saying this. China even came out and asked Russia to respect Ukrainian territory.
58539672 says2015-08-09T03:35:06.7642964Z
And get this. Even Saudi Arabia and Iran made statements asking for Russia to respect Ukrainian territory. Those guys don't agree on anything.
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T03:43:24.7362995Z
Just my AWESOME AMERICAN two cents here but Bush lets the dogs out on iraqs ass for the bs they pulled and IF he were in office now russia's little putin would have long been put in his place like the little bitch he is. We are and always will be #1 sweetheart. Putin and russia would get fucked quick buddy. Tread lightly. His day shall come 👌👍👍👏👏✌
58539672 says2015-08-09T03:44:27.7278881Z
In fact, the only nations on the planet that support Russia on this is Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Bolivia, Syria, Sudan, North Korea, Zimbabwe, Kyrgystan, and those Russian proxy states. Quite the reliable following you have.
jrr8808 says2015-08-09T04:01:37.4864469Z
Russiaputinsbitch america doesnt hide behind europe we pretty much have europe under our belt in economics and military bases we have around europe and the world. Obama drew a red line not america. America would beat the living shit out of russias 1970s military russia is weak russia is alone russia is dead russia is lucky im not president because putin would be hanging off the statue of liberty and russia would be building our xboxes instead of china
jrr8808 says2015-08-09T04:04:10.8822302Z
For free or cheaper than mexicans
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T04:09:51.0296730Z
^A solid representation of most Americans.
jrr8808 says2015-08-09T04:16:52.7627764Z
America is badass your just mad because we live like kings kick other countries asses and then tell other countries they cant your damn right im proud of that. We rule the world because the world couldnt rule themselves before ww2. So we took control were is the united nations based? US of fuckin A
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T04:20:32.8177870Z
Funny. After WWII the USSR occupied half of Europe. China and most of the middle east were against America as well. "Ruled the world" lol.
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T04:32:20.8127254Z
Lol no WE americans aint scared to let our nuts swing 😉 Thats why we dominate as usual. Do you need a tampon for your mangina sweetie? Look at you and putin. Scary little people hiding behind words and bs threats. Now look at us #1 on top. Just admit yall always have been and always will be our bottom bitch. Oh boohoo the words I use make america look bad haha nah its real world shit. Whats the need to sugar coat it? Put ya big girl panties on and dont be such a little puss because I use such horrible words 😢 Heres a tear for ya sweetpea👌
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T04:34:29.4667501Z
Ussr lol is gone and dead so yea its 2015 and we rule the world america defeated ussr
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T04:35:41.5080119Z
As we will do the same to russia by the way
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T04:39:19.0017437Z
Russia rose from the ruins of the USSR, just like the Soviet empire rose from the ruins of a civil war after the collapse of Czarist Russia. America hasn't defeated Russia yet, and will most likely be unable to anytime soon.
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T04:46:01.9835269Z
It only takes one warmonger to get elected like alexander the great or napoleon to change all that hell if it wasnt for america russians would be speaking german russia was getting there asses kicked if germany wasnt fighting two fronts and if america never entered the war there would be no russia keep in mind america was fighting two fronts and still won
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T04:57:01.8677569Z
No shit. 80% of German casualties during WWII were on the eastern front. America fought less axis troops on two fronts than the Soviet Union did on one.
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T05:03:10.7321214Z
What???? Germany made it all the way to russias doorsteps they could see the shining roof of yalls government buildings the only reason russia wasnt taken then and there is because hitler is an idiot and directed his troops south
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T05:04:33.3658511Z
And i do mean moscow
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T05:06:05.3464725Z
Yes, Hitler's first defeat was during the battle of Moscow. The Soviets (not the Americans) were the first to ever stop a German Blitzkrieg and therefore prove the Wehrmacht wasn't invincible.
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T05:06:09.8992699Z
I hate to hurt your feelings but they did cut russias ass all the way to moscow if they had a better leader that was the end of russia
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T05:08:09.2556350Z
Yes, but after Moscow, the Soviets cut Germany's ass all the way to Berlin (and would have reached Paris had the British and Americans not saved it).
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T05:08:18.0721233Z
There was no real battle of moscow hitler left for other interests despite his generals telling him not to
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T05:10:04.9328083Z
O and by the way AMERICA let russia go into berlin we let yall
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T05:10:26.5833153Z
Actually, the battle of Moscow was the largest battle in History and a decisive German defeat. Hitler lost due to a Russian counteroffensive that stopped the Germans from taking Moscow.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T05:11:00.3107315Z
True, America didn't want to suffer the costs of taking Berlin unlike Russia.
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T05:12:31.9013504Z
Yea when stalin found out little 5 foot 5 japs werent a threat and your wrong the tide for germany didnt turn until stalingrad
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T05:13:23.6468821Z
Stalingrad was the largest battle
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T05:13:57.0778964Z
Some would say Stalingrad, some would say Kursk. However the battle of Moscow forced Hitler to fight a long war in the east since he failed to defeat the USSR quickly.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T05:15:25.4680630Z
Stalingrad had about half as many troops involved as the battle of Moscow.
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T05:18:15.1635190Z
There is one thing i love and thank about russia and thats the ak-47 the most powerful weapon of mass destruction but thats what makes america so great i can buy one and have russian citizens cant and there would have never been a counteroffensive in moscow if stalin thought the japs remained a threat in siberia
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T05:21:45.8609014Z
Stalin left plenty of troops to repel any Japanese invasion in eastern Russia. The rest he sent to Moscow.
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T05:25:48.9080276Z
You mean western russia the japs were nowere near the east and if he did there never were enough to hold off the japs if they did attack and months before russian counteroffensive hitler had german troops camping outside moscow for all the dumb reasons and against his generals advice he didnt go in he shouldve because if he would have there would be no russia he wouldve got stalin
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T05:27:05.4289499Z
Poor English for an American.
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T05:28:31.1490676Z
I quit punctuating on my own to type faster on a tablet.
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T05:31:03.2524744Z
Ok well keep typing then.
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T05:36:51.2283050Z
There never was an attack plan in eastern Russia by the japs. If there were, it would have been western Russia. What troops Stalin did leave would not have been nearly enough to hold off an attack by the japs. Hitler had German troops camping outside Moscow months before any Russian counteroffensive. Like an idiot and against his generals advice he did not attack Moscow. Had Hitler listened to his generals there would be no Stalin and Russia would've been taken over.
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T05:39:03.2519513Z
You happy it took that much longer to type that shit o yea and isnt that something about the ak-47 greatest assault rifle ever and russians cant even buy one and americans can
RussiaPutinBest says2015-08-09T05:39:23.3760803Z
Hitler did attack Moscow and he failed. You know nothing about the history of World War II. Please go read a book kid. I talk to intelligent individuals, not people who don't know that Japan did attack the Soviet Union in 1939 and was defeated.
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T05:48:34.5900137Z
Intelligent? I thought we were talking about when Germany was at Moscows doorsteps. That time period with the japs is what i'm referring to. There was a winter that set in when Germans troops made it to Moscow Hitler halted the advance. They would have taken Moscow over Stalin had no troops of significant value until he ordered reinforcements out of siberia who were there waiting on a jap attack that never came. Dude you need to read a book.
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T05:56:40.3147273Z
Hitler only used artillery when he made it to Moscow. He halted the advance against his generals advice. He did. If he'd listened to what they said instead of just shelling Moscow winter delay would have come after Moscow's defeat and Russian reinforcements would've come home to German Russia.
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T05:58:27.2690129Z
Never said there wasnt a battle
Idfwu2 says2015-08-09T06:29:45.7058223Z
With that off subject nonsense I voted yes to Crimea being apart of Russia because they are. Russia took them over. It will never be apart of Ukraine again. That vote was probably bullshit, but it doesnt matter. Make no mistake tho I did not say that because I think Russia is powerful because their not. They are WEAK. Inferior to Americas power and mite. Russia is a broken economy with a 70s military and virtually no navy comparable to Americas. Russia is a cancer on this planet that exists because America allows it to. Make no mistake America can absolutely destroy Russia. We don't because that would be politically incorrect. We allow your existence never forget that.
PericIes says2015-08-09T06:37:28.8415911Z
https://youtu.be/5DmYLrxR0Y8?t=31
greatkitteh says2015-08-09T08:39:29.7213513Z
America would ibvade Iraq, Screw up its budget, Then claim victory. They Claim norh korea is "Not modern", yet they chicken out everytime North Korea makes a move. Obama,says That north loreawont get away much longer, loses a cyberbattle with North Korea, then Hides behind europe to "Sanction" it.
greatkitteh says2015-08-09T08:42:47.7802209Z
Justifying People logic that Russia would have lost ww2 if hitler didn't blunder, At least they fought Gwrmany, Not hide back, Sell thibgs, Then "Join" the war. America also too scared of losing troops it had to use Nukes. At least Norh Korea is willing to use troops, not hide around.
stargate says2015-08-09T12:08:52.5910820Z
@RussiaPutinBest Funny how when the Soviet Union existed there was no free speach, the KGB killied anyone who went against the Soviet Union. Also most nations didn't want to be part of the soviet union, or its puppet. They still do not want to be part of Russia. Also sense you support Russia's invasion of Ukrainian and you live there. Dosn't that make you a trator to your own nation? Back then the world was more like 50% USA silde, and 50% Soviet Silde.
stargate says2015-08-09T12:09:58.8447067Z
We used nucks to end the war, a lot more people would have died Americans, and Japanese. It was all about the lesser of two evils.
stargate says2015-08-09T12:11:51.3526279Z
@RussiaPutinBest You mean useing the troops as meat shields, and killing civilians?

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