Do you support Louisiana's new "Saggy Pants Ban?"

Posted by: dmussi12

One of Louisiana's civil parishes passed a law banning saggy pants this week. The punishments are small ($50 for the first offense), but some argue that the law steps too far, or is a result of older members of the community trying to "fix" the younger generation. Brief summary:

  • Yes, this is a good law that prohibits a form of public indecency

  • No, this law is irrational and oversteps the bounds of even local government

33% 9 votes
67% 18 votes
  • It is not nudity, and the government has no business telling people how high they must wear their pants.

  • I don't personally care for seeing that, but it's not my pnts, and it's not my place to tell someone how to dress. You let them dothis, what's next?

  • It looks pretty stupid and dumb, but a ban? seriously? We are not some Islamic theocracy to ban stupid stuff like this.

  • Yeah, I hate this very long over fad with a white-hot passion, but... No ban.

    Posted by: TBR
  • Total government iverreach. the government shoulsnt tell you how to wear your pants.

    Posted by: Stefy
  • Happening in my state, but I really think its ridiculous that the government is telling you how to wear pants. I find low riding stupid, but making it illegal is taking it to a whole new level.

  • The thing is if a law was passed banning women from wearing short shorts, or even bikinis, it would be perceived as an overreach. If a law was passed banning shirtless men, it would be perceived as "big government." This law looks at one specific trend among many and bans it. The same argument for this one could be used for those outfits(?) mentioned above, but never would be. I actually do wonder why (non-rhetorical)

  • Although you can't run with your pants down and I do not want to see anyone's boxers. If you ban this you will have to ban women wearing daisy dukes and all of the other forms. Showing even more of their bottom cheeks. I guess it is a freedom of expression :/

    Posted by: Najs
  • It does prevent indecency. It is however a lie, they are not better than this.

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tajshar2k says2015-07-07T20:36:18.8791920-05:00
I swear, Republicans are the biggest hypocrites. They always talk as if they care about personal freedom, but they support bans like this.
TBR says2015-07-07T20:50:14.1478052-05:00
They support bans on stuff that effects "those people".
TBR says2015-07-07T20:53:48.7364258-05:00
I think the average blubbery white whale male on the beach is offensive, but most seem cool with that. I think the beer belly / baseball cap NASCAR fan is offensive and threatening, no proposed bans.
Stefy says2015-07-07T21:28:12.5166544-05:00
FreedomBeforeEquality: Let me get this strait. You don't see anything at all hypocritical about you, freedombeforeequality, supporting the government telling you how to wear your pants. Is the irony really going over your head?
Stefy says2015-07-07T21:29:56.5185248-05:00
Im pretty sure sagging your pants doesnt make you a bad person. If you judge people based on that, i think that's shallow.
tajshar2k says2015-07-07T21:31:50.4800079-05:00
Actually I guess I'm kinda a hypocrite. I really don't thinking being able to walk nude in public is a good idea...
TBR says2015-07-07T21:42:57.1537333-05:00
I judge people wearing their pants like that. I would never offer anyone dressed like that a job, or want to share a drink with them, the same goes for anyone wearing a confederate flag hat. Regardless, they both are free to dress like idiots all they like.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-07-08T08:09:01.7187343-05:00
I was reading the description of the answer. I was more so agreeing that it does limit public indecency. Ill change my answer though, that I do not support a state law against it.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-07-08T08:09:50.7086768-05:00
And im with TBR on this one. I think judging them and restricting them on a private level is perfectly fine and well deserved.
tajshar2k says2015-07-08T10:32:34.6907653-05:00
Low riding should be discouraged however.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-07-08T11:17:34.7658744-05:00
Well yeah all of it discouraged ... Just on a social level, through judgement and divergence. The government itself shouldnt be doing the moral policing ... People should.
Stefy says2015-07-11T09:35:13.5393687-05:00
As much as i disagree with how you wear youe pants being some sort of moral issue that people are actually worried about, i dont care if people are against it in their lives so long as people who are opposed to it are still being respectful to people not matter how they wear their pants and its not made a law.
FreedomBeforeEquality says2015-07-13T15:43:01.7097109-05:00
"... Are still being respectful to people not matter how they wear their pants and its not made a law." I dont think you can have your cake and eat it too ... Respect isnt something everyone is entitled to automatically. Its something earned.
TBR says2015-07-13T15:55:10.8129438-05:00
Oddly enough, I have to agree with FreedomBeforeEquality. Respect, on my own "turf", is earned. When I was a very young guy working IT for the financial world, do you think that me wearing Cheetos stand tee-shirts would have garnered me the respect of the business units? No, it is fair to have expectations. When someone thumbs their nose at those expectations its not about disrespecting THEM.
dmussi12 says2015-07-13T16:02:05.0933642-05:00
@TBR But there is a difference between professional respect (like you described) and a certain level of basic respect for all people. I think it's fair to say that everyone deserves to be treated with kindness no matter their appearance. I'd also say that it's possible to LOSE respect, however.
TBR says2015-07-13T16:09:22.1915446-05:00
@dmussi12 - I don't disagree, however, I still can have expectations in common situations. If you walk into the coffee shop I go to every morning wearing your pants low, you will be judged. You, as the wearer of the sagging pants, are free to do so, but don't expect instance acceptance. This, unlike skin color etc. is yours to choose. Where simple fashion diverges from, say, poverty, that is different. I don't expect a homeless man to wear a suit.
Stefy says2015-07-13T16:43:12.1527260-05:00
No i actually do think you have to be respectuful to everyone. Like TBR said, not on like a proffessional level, but somt be a jerk to someome and look down on them for how they wear pants ots really shallow. FreedomBeforeEquality: Really you dotm see anything ironic? I thought you were the unltimaite defemder of freedom, even in a social level. People with your view get mad if someone is even mildly criticized for weilding a firearm in a restaurant or public park, but if someone wheres their pants in a way you sont approve of its suddenyl a motal issue?
TBR says2015-07-13T16:49:30.5351222-05:00
@Stefy - I don't deny a reasonable argument for me being hypocritical on this. All people deserve respect, as dmussi12 has said. In the case of dressing in appropriate manner for the environment, my point is, exactly who is being disrespectful? The people finding issue with someone wearing their pants low, or the one wearing their pants low? It is my position that it is the low pants wearer that is being disrespectful. That is their choice, my choice is to say that they have gone out of their way to be disrespectful to others. Again, where some condition exists outside the control of the individual, the choice is not there's, and I would be an ass to make a issue of it - say race, right?

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