Do you support the Mutual Respect Amendment?

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Mutual Respect Amendment: Section 1. No penalties shall be levied, nor probable cause be reasoned, upon the people for exercising, passively or actively, their rights, none of which may be forced into seclusion from efficacy. Section 2. The right of the people to be secure in their persons against molestation and degradation, and in their biologies against intrusion, shall not be violated. Section 3. Compliance with the rights of the people shall be compulsory, but this amendment shall not be so construed

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I disagree with only Section 1

You disagree with only the first section of the Mutual Respect Amendment: Section 1. No penalties shall be levied, nor probable cause be reasoned, upon the people for exercising, passively or actively, their rights, none of which may be forced into...  seclusion from efficacy. You support the second and third sections of the Mutual Respect Amendment: Section 2. The right of the people to be secure in their persons against molestation and degradation, and in their biologies against intrusion, shall not be violated. Section 3. Compliance with the rights of the people shall be compulsory, but this amendment shall not be so construed as to allow unrightful actions or to deny constituted powers   more
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Yes

You support the Mutual Respect Amendment: Section 1. No penalties shall be levied, nor probable cause be reasoned, upon the people for exercising, passively or actively, their rights, none of which may be forced into seclusion from efficacy. Secti... on 2. The right of the people to be secure in their persons against molestation and degradation, and in their biologies against intrusion, shall not be violated. Section 3. Compliance with the rights of the people shall be compulsory, but this amendment shall not be so construed as to allow unrightful actions or to deny constituted powers   more
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No

You disagree with the Mutual Respect Amendment: Section 1. No penalties shall be levied, nor probable cause be reasoned, upon the people for exercising, passively or actively, their rights, none of which may be forced into seclusion from efficacy. ...  Section 2. The right of the people to be secure in their persons against molestation and degradation, and in their biologies against intrusion, shall not be violated. Section 3. Compliance with the rights of the people shall be compulsory, but this amendment shall not be so construed as to allow unrightful actions or to deny constituted powers   more
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I support only Section 1

You support only the first section of the Mutual Respect Amendment: Section 1. No penalties shall be levied, nor probable cause be reasoned, upon the people for exercising, passively or actively, their rights, none of which may be forced into seclu... sion from efficacy. You disagree with the second and third sections of the Mutual Respect Amendment: Section 2. The right of the people to be secure in their persons against molestation and degradation, and in their biologies against intrusion, shall not be violated. Section 3. Compliance with the rights of the people shall be compulsory, but this amendment shall not be so construed as to allow unrightful actions or to deny constituted powers   more
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I support only Section 2

You support only the second section of the Mutual Respect Amendment: Section 2. The right of the people to be secure in their persons against molestation and degradation, and in their biologies against intrusion, shall not be violated. You disagre... e with the first and third sections of the Mutual Respect Amendment: Section 1. No penalties shall be levied, nor probable cause be reasoned, upon the people for exercising, passively or actively, their rights, none of which may be forced into seclusion from efficacy. Section 3. Compliance with the rights of the people shall be compulsory, but this amendment shall not be so construed as to allow unrightful actions or to deny constituted powers   more
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I support only Section 3

You support only the third section of the Mutual Respect Amendment: Section 3. Compliance with the rights of the people shall be compulsory, but this amendment shall not be so construed as to allow unrightful actions or to deny constituted powers. ...  You disagree with the first and second sections of the Mutual Respect Amendment: Section 1. No penalties shall be levied, nor probable cause be reasoned, upon the people for exercising, passively or actively, their rights, none of which may be forced into seclusion from efficacy. Section 2. The right of the people to be secure in their persons against molestation and degradation, and in their biologies against intrusion, shall not be violated   more
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I disagree with only Section 2

You disagree with only the second section of the Mutual Respect Amendment: Section 2. The right of the people to be secure in their persons against molestation and degradation, and in their biologies against intrusion, shall not be violated. You s... upport the first and third sections of the Mutual Respect Amendment: Section 1. No penalties shall be levied, nor probable cause be reasoned, upon the people for exercising, passively or actively, their rights, none of which may be forced into seclusion from efficacy. Section 3. Compliance with the rights of the people shall be compulsory, but this amendment shall not be so construed as to allow unrightful actions or to deny constituted powers   more
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I disagree with only Section 3

You disagree with only the third section of the Mutual Respect Amendment: Section 3. Compliance with the rights of the people shall be compulsory, but this amendment shall not be so construed as to allow unrightful actions or to deny constituted po... wers. You support the first and second sections of the Mutual Respect Amendment: Section 1. No penalties shall be levied, nor probable cause be reasoned, upon the people for exercising, passively or actively, their rights, none of which may be forced into seclusion from efficacy. Section 2. The right of the people to be secure in their persons against molestation and degradation, and in their biologies against intrusion, shall not be violated   more
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Shield says2014-08-12T15:16:27.7627275-05:00
@The_Immortal_Emris: The third section protects against such actions because segregation has been ruled not to be protected by free speech or any other rights of the people.
Shield says2014-08-12T15:17:39.9442095-05:00
Section 1 is to prevent fines and other penalties from being levied for such things as refusing a search, and also prevents free speech zones and the like in the last clause.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-08-12T15:17:49.3354095-05:00
Then why bother including Section 1, as it is already a part of the document?
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-08-12T15:21:01.3763892-05:00
The only time I have ever heard of someone being fined for a refusal to be searched, it was an individual at an airport, which is not public property.
Shield says2014-08-12T15:59:41.4375395-05:00
By that logic you contradict the stance of segregation not being allowed on private property. And regardless, the TSA at the airport is a public service agreed to by private airports, meaning any search by the TSA is a public search.
Shield says2014-08-12T16:04:40.9828925-05:00
Similarly it would protect against being fined for pleading the fifth and protect against a police officer claiming probable cause based on a refusal of search, leading to insignificance of the fourth amendment.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-08-12T16:10:50.4603977-05:00
"imilarly it would protect against being fined for pleading the fifth and protect against a police officer claiming probable cause based on a refusal of search" Both of these examples are fictional. Refusal to search does not give an officer probable cause to search. You cannot be fined for pleading the fifth.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-08-12T16:12:08.9455070-05:00
"TSA at the airport is a public service agreed to by private airports" Nope, the TSA is a private company employed by airports. It is NOT a public service. The search is one a person submits to when they walk into the terminal.
Shield says2014-08-12T16:12:34.2951175-05:00
Redundance never hurt any one. All things are fictional until not.
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-08-12T16:14:09.3174218-05:00
Claiming there is a danger of being fined for pleading the fifth is simply inaccurate. Claiming a refusal to allow a search gives officers probable cause is also incorrect and unconstitutional. Redundancies in law are not useful, nor are they necessary.
Shield says2014-08-14T00:38:54.6460320-05:00
Tell that to the people whom put the due process clause into the fourteenth amendment when there was already one in the fifth amendment.... It was a pretty big deal
The_Immortal_Emris says2014-08-14T09:01:40.8566591-05:00
That reaffirmed the state's commitment to the federal document. The Constitution states only one command twice. The Fifth Amendment says to the federal government that no one shall be "deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law." The Fourteenth Amendment, ratified in 1868, uses the same eleven words, called the Due Process Clause, to describe a legal obligation of all states. These words have as their central promise an assurance that all levels of American government must operate within the law ("legality") and provide fair procedures.

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