Do you think "Under God" should be removed from the USA pledge?

Posted by: Pegasister1

What's your opinion?

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Yes, it should be taken out (Why?)
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No, it shouldn't be taken out (Why?)
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Sfaulkner says2014-08-11T22:20:18.3853348-05:00
Yamavonkarma, because America seems to favor Christianity is the reason we need to remove the practices that make it so (at least in government). Separation of church and state was highly stressed by the founding founders, even though many of them were Christian.
mishapqueen says2014-08-11T22:32:04.4046991-05:00
If you think we struggle with separation of church and state, compare the US to ISIS. We have it pretty good.
Sfaulkner says2014-08-11T22:33:14.7966655-05:00
However that does not change the fact that we have problems that need to be fixed.
mishapqueen says2014-08-11T22:34:13.8438010-05:00
Fair enough.
YamaVonKarma says2014-08-11T22:41:37.0625280-05:00
Just don't say it.. Is it really so hard?
Sfaulkner says2014-08-11T22:48:48.2190274-05:00
It is state enforced, it is like choosing to not participate in a state enforced prayer.
YamaVonKarma says2014-08-11T23:12:42.5165977-05:00
... Who forces you to say the pledge? In my school, we have the option to. So long as we're not disrespectful, we're fine.
texans14 says2014-08-11T23:27:34.5089089-05:00
We have the option in my school. There's a kid who refuses to say it because he is a proud Egyptian.
Vere_Mendacium says2014-08-11T23:33:12.7927563-05:00
A better question: What would Jesus say about pledging to a nation?
Kreakin says2014-08-12T05:21:00.3554754-05:00
^ It makes the pledge almost satanic from that perspective.
Pegasister1 says2014-08-12T06:47:32.3366880-05:00
@Sfaulkner: Actually, most (if not all) of the founding fathers were deist.
Pegasister1 says2014-08-12T06:58:47.9461113-05:00
@Vere : That's not really the point, more less a question that relates to mine. I'm not asking about your religion, I'm asking in favor of all religions. Why should I have to pledge myself to God (which, in a sense, I am doing) that I don't believe in? Or why should I pledge myself to your God, of which I believe in something else? You're only making your point from a Christian point of view.
ben671176 says2014-08-12T07:25:13.8300863-05:00
The Pledge has nothing to do with the government! It is the Pledge of its citizens to always do good for the country.
Pegasister1 says2014-08-12T15:49:24.1140204-05:00
@Ben: The government are people too, and it's just as much their country as ours. So, if they feel the need to change it, they can put it to a vote.
Warik says2014-08-12T17:22:54.5671520-05:00
This nation was founded to be secular. We do not need to force people to say under god in the pledge of allegiance. And in many schools saying the pledge of allegiance is mandatory including mine
missmedic says2014-08-13T10:05:54.3542549-05:00
When you pledge or put your faith in anything other then god you have violated the second commandment. We should admit that god never gives us the freedom to follow the commandments we like and neglect the rest. Nor does god tell us that we can relax the penalties he has imposed for breaking them, which is death. This is why Christians follow there own morals and not there god's. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me.
patrick967 says2014-08-13T13:37:18.6921026-05:00
When I was a kid I just didn't say "under god."

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