• Flat tax

  • Progessive tax

56% 15 votes
44% 12 votes
  • No taxes would be better

  • I love both indefinitely and equally, but if I had to choose which I'd ensatte for a country without choosing both I'd choose flat tax.

  • Progressive Tax puts too much weight on people who actually work, The Simple Flat Tax Plan is based around the concept of true equality for everybody.

  • Progressive tax targets those with money and as those people are often the euntrepeuners of the nation who generally bring money in, applying pressure on them ultimatly effects everyone terribly. A flat tax and government focused on free education in public schools at least till maybe 8th grade at least would be best.

  • I also think, no taxes would be better, but since we have them....

    Posted by: Wylted
  • Doesn't hit poor people as hard and allows the government to get more money for important things from people who don't need so much (such as multi-billionares).

    Posted by: mc9
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BlackFlags says2015-11-23T23:18:58.1770339Z
Wylted, the reason I think flat taxes are better is because to work they are always going to be lower than progressive taxes for the lower and middle classes. The flat tax proposal in the US for example, lowers the taxation of the Middle and Upper class to that of the Lower class, which is 10-15%.
Wylted says2015-11-24T01:51:48.7977886Z
You actually make an excellent point
Pigzooka says2015-11-24T02:00:09.3991889Z
Except that the flat tax is too hard on low-income families. If the poverty line is around $24K a year for a family of 4 (which it is), then the effective poverty line is raised by $4K with a 20% flat tax because flat taxes will push anyone making less than $28K below the line. An income tax, however, does not charge those families any money and significantly reduces the number of people below the poverty line. The only way to get this with a flat tax is to lower the poverty line to around $20K, which means that far fewer people get needed benefits and also heralds a controlled economy. Furthermore, common since dictates that the rich SHOULD pay more than the poor, simply because they can, since a five percent tax on top of a 15 percent tax would be devastating to a poor person (lose, say, an additional $1500 a year when you make $30K) but barely noticeable to a rich one (lose an additional $50K a year when you make 1M - not exactly devastating). Therefore the rich should be charged a higher income percentage than the poor. TL;DR: Flat tax puts too much pressure on the poor and does not have rich people paying to the full extent of their considerable ability to fund poor children's lunches.
stargate says2015-11-24T02:01:56.4606742Z
It will not be 20%, plus the middle class and upper class should not get taxed a ton.
stargate says2015-11-24T02:03:56.4425815Z
Soo what I heard from that post, poor are more important then everyone else. Because we can have high taxes on more rich people we should. And because you make money and where more successful then some people lets punish you and take more of your income. It simply is not fair.
Pigzooka says2015-11-24T02:06:07.1672955Z
People seem to think that taxing a higher percent is "a ton." But think of it this way. A poor person probably has (if they make $30K) needs around $28K a year to pay necessary expenses. But a rich person, making $1M, needs probably $100K to live, accounting for a bigger house, better food, nice car etc. So while the poor person has a tiny amount of disposable income, a rich person has a proportionally vast amount. So the rich person should be charged proportionally more.
uahshdyy says2015-11-24T05:29:00.3257251Z
The rich get tax exemption, the poor stay on welfare and the middle class pays for the poor and the rich, while the elites rule.
BlackFlags says2015-11-24T05:59:40.1155315Z
@uahshdyy, If you remove low income entitlement and upper class privilege from that equation, flax taxes don't actually sound like that bad of a trade off. In economic theory, all economic classes contribute heavily in the economy in different ways. All money is better spent circulating in capitalist markets than spent on social spending by the government.
BlackFlags says2015-11-24T06:01:55.1950656Z
@Pigzooka - Not necessarily. Many rich people have very little disposable income, because they tie their money into investments and assets. Sure, there are a couple outliers which sit on a mountain of wealth. Start having the government discriminate though, that always works out well...
stargate says2015-11-24T13:39:35.3763466Z
Yes but the poor should get get treated better then all the other classes just because they make less. It should be a flat tax, a progressive taxs puts more wight on those that really work and the ones that put the must money into the ecomney. Right now the middle class is shrinking, we should lower the income tax all across the board to like 15%. We should not punish the people who make the musty money, it is just not fair. The poor already get free healthcare with is paired though by taxs, who get taxed the middle class and upper class. The poor get food stamps where does this money come from, aging taxs. The poor should not get super low tax rates because they make less the some who make 75k. If you want everyone to pay for all this social garbage that is used to buy the poor votes then at least keep the tax rate the same across all income levels. Other wise you will see the middle class keep on shrinking.
stargate says2015-11-24T13:43:13.5097483Z
Mc9 so what you are saying is the richer you are the more the goverment should take. And while we do that keep on speanding a baton of money, that just does not work. The poor should be treated the same as everyone else, just because they make less doesn't. Make any difference. The higher the taxs the less buying power people have, you and your progressive tax is hurting us more then helping us. Just like if we raise the minimum wage, that would hurt us. We need to get our nation back on track, not hurt those who are successful.

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