Gay Marriage should be legal in ALL American States.

Posted by: CoolPeppers12

Should Gay Marriage be legal in all states? Or should it not? And if not, why? How does something that YOU would never do, affect you?

  • Yes!

  • Heck no! Keep it 'Murican!

70% 33 votes
30% 14 votes
  • Why not? How WOULD it affect me? IT's their choice as it is someone's choice to marry the opposite sex.

  • What the other option says, but yes. Last time I checked, America stood for freedom, justice, and equality.

    Posted by: ChrisF
  • Christian morals are NOT america morals. An American moral is to simply have your own moral.

  • i may believe in adam and eve not adam and steve but i also believe in freedom and i believe everyone should have the freedom to marry.

  • Love is love regardless of sex

  • Yes, the state should not dictate who you can marry

  • It is natural and there is nothing wrong with it.

    Posted by: SNP1
  • To oppose this is to oppose individual liberty. It is a civil right to be married, and if it is only extended to the majority it is a right that is based in privilege and injustice.

  • This doesn't affect me. Although I don't want to be gay, it doesn't affect me that someone else is. Really. I am for gay marriage because people should be allowed to do what they want in that aspect. If they fall in love with someone of the same sex, so be it. Just because one believes that "it's wrong", or whatever, obviously doesn't mean that everyone has the same beliefs as that person. I believe that the right thing to do is to allow people to follow their own beliefs and their own hearts in this matter.

  • It should not be legalized anywhere

    Posted by: scots
  • The phrasing on this opinion option shows a lot about how stupid the poster is... But ya.

  • It's wrong and it's unnatural.

  • Try to get that law passed in Mississippi ;)

  • Duh

  • If people of said state vote as a majority not to have homo sexual marriage then Why the hell should you force it down their throats

  • Why do I have to be forced to believe in something I don't believe in. The people who live in America shouldn't have to compromise their beliefs for any gay person. Being gay is a choice and its immoral.

    Posted by: trrm
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discomfiting says2014-04-28T18:01:22.6794043-05:00
Personally I believe that consenting adults have the right to marry whomever they wish. Man and woman, Man and man, Woman and woman, polygamous, etc. I don't have to agree the morality of the marriage, but my personal opinion shouldn't and will not infringe on another person's rights. If you don't want a gay marriage, don't get one. If you don't want a polygamous marriage, don't get one.
donald.keller says2014-04-28T18:12:00.3146270-05:00
If you can't make the poll from a neutral perspective, giving both sides a fair and accurate representation, than don't make a poll.
briantheliberal says2014-04-28T18:16:15.0316835-05:00
Nobody has a logical reason why it should not be. I have asked hundreds of people, if not thousands, who are against gay marriage being legalized to give me AT LEAST one non-religious, logic based reason as to why gay marriage should be banned and I have yet to hear anything worth taking into consideration. All they do is complain about how "immoral" it is, but on what grounds? Then they say immature nonsense like "It's disgusting" or something completely false or misinformed like "Marriage is a religious institution" when it clearly is not. I feel that people who don't like gay marriage should just refrain from getting one, problem solved.
discomfiting says2014-04-28T18:17:22.8297181-05:00
Don't want a free country? Go to russia where almost everybody's a racist, xenophobic religious bible thumping homophobe.
briantheliberal says2014-04-28T18:18:53.0438270-05:00
Discomfiting, I wouldn't say almost everyone in Russia fits that description. However a good number of them do.
Fight4Liberty says2014-04-28T18:32:17.6780133-05:00
I don't believe my personal beliefs should have the ability to infringe anouther's natural born rights. I didn't vote because I don't support "Federal Legalization," i.E legalization in all states by a federal mandate. (I prefer the State's Rights.) Society is accepting it, and you might as well let society fully accept and allow it rather than have government deal with a social issue.
discomfiting says2014-04-28T18:38:00.0962270-05:00
By the way that they have racism, sexism and homophobia on rises of already at majority and increasing, it's too much. They have a neo-nazism rise in russia.
ChrisF says2014-04-28T18:49:58.1018270-05:00
@marviniscool - Explain the over 400 other species in which homosexuality exists then
discomfiting says2014-04-28T18:56:16.1678270-05:00
Appeal to nature argument is so no. Just because something is natural or unnatural doesn't mean it is good or bad. Even with the appeal to nature argument, it says homosexuality is natural and that monogamy is unnatural. So with that, it's not one man one woman because that is unnatural. Marriage itself is an unnatural act that only humans do; rarely do animals have life time partners and even with that, it's not marriage, it's just mating. Y'all need a new argument.
marviniscool says2014-04-28T19:01:14.4272966-05:00
@ChrisF Just because animals in nature do it doesn't mean that humans should do it. Just because a behavior is occurring in nature doesn't mean it ought to be considered moral. If you accept homosexuality as moral, then every behavior seems to pass the morality test. Murder, rape, and theft also occur in nature. Some animals in nature also kill and eat their own kind and abandon their wounded family members. So i guess because these things occur in nature, it would perfectly moral and ok for me to murder, rape, or steal from someone and also eat other humans because these activities also occur in nature.
discomfiting says2014-04-28T19:04:03.1880966-05:00
It's considered moral to be because they are harming nobody.
briantheliberal says2014-04-28T19:31:01.4910659-05:00
Marviniscool, you argument is still invalid and makes no sense. Homosexuality is natural because everything that exists in the natural is inherently natural. It doesn't make it wrong, even if it was "unnatural" because it doesn't directly harm anyone. Marriage is not a natural concept either, it's a man made concept. And your morals and personal convictions should have no affect on anyone else's lives. Comparing homosexuality to murder and rape doesn't validate your side at all. Murder and rape harm, homosexuality does not.
briantheliberal says2014-04-28T19:40:38.7602270-05:00
And by the way, I forgot to add. You were the who claimed it was wrong because it was unnatural. But as soon as someone shows you how wrong you are, suddenly you argue that jut because it's natural doesn't mean it's right because animals also rape and murder each other? That's called hypocrisy.
marviniscool says2014-04-28T19:46:43.1294270-05:00
@briantheliberal Marriage isn't man made. Marriage was created by God. So man does not define what marriage is, God does. And i disagree when you say homosexuality isn't harmful. Homosexuals are more likely to get HPV, HIV/AIDS, and many other things. So they are harming themselves.
ChrisF says2014-04-28T19:47:41.5670270-05:00
@marviniscool - Unless you plan on having sex with homosexuals, I fail to see how that concerns you.
marviniscool says2014-04-28T19:49:35.9930270-05:00
@ChrisF It does concern me because as a Christian I'm taught to love. And i hate seeing people in this world mess themselves up.
ChrisF says2014-04-28T19:51:04.6585890-05:00
Yes, you are taught to love. Are you saying by treating them as your inferior, you're displaying some kind of love for them? What kind of logic are you using?
marviniscool says2014-04-28T19:56:51.5247176-05:00
@ChrisF I never said that i was treating them as an inferior. If some of my comments made it seem like that then I apologize. I don't treat someone differently just because of their sexual preferences. Whether someone is straight, gay, christian, atheist, white, black, or anything else, i will treat them just as i would treat my brother or sister.
ChrisF says2014-04-28T19:58:37.8237990-05:00
So if they are your equal, as you say, why not let them have equal rights?
bettabreeder says2014-04-28T20:03:12.8217121-05:00
Forgot to say that its harming God and you DONT want to harm him
SNP1 says2014-04-28T20:04:44.6901121-05:00
Bettabreeder: Wait... The God you believe in can be injured!?
bettabreeder says2014-04-28T20:08:02.1861121-05:00
Oh i meant to say harming the bible
SNP1 says2014-04-28T20:09:35.9421121-05:00
Why does that matter? This is a SECULAR country, we do not have a theistic government. Why should we care what it says in an ancient, outdated, mythological book?
CoolPeppers12 says2014-04-28T20:10:08.7021121-05:00
To who ever said God created Marriage. He didnt'. He gave us the right to marry whom ever we wish.
bettabreeder says2014-04-28T20:11:01.3550270-05:00
Coolpepper12 he created a man and a women for a reason not to just look at
SNP1 says2014-04-28T20:11:45.5498270-05:00
Bettabreeder: Prove that God created a man and a woman
bettabreeder says2014-04-28T20:16:08.2070270-05:00
Book of Genesis- Adam was created by God than he made Eve with his rib. http://www.truebiblestudy.com/Adam_Eve.htm
SNP1 says2014-04-28T20:17:05.1782270-05:00
Prove that the book of Genesis is accurate and correct.
marviniscool says2014-04-28T20:22:43.2448352-05:00
@ChrisF God says that homosexuality is wrong, so homosexuals shouldn't get equal marriage rights. God has defined marriage between a man and woman (Genesis 2:24; 1 Corinthians 7:2-16; Ephesians 5:23-33.) Biblically speaking, a homosexual union isn't even marriage. It doesn't matter if the government makes it legal or if society says that it is fine. Homosexual unions always has been, and always will be, a perversion of God's creation.
SNP1 says2014-04-28T20:25:23.9882270-05:00
Marviniscool: Prove that God exists, prove that the God of the Bible is the real God, prove that the Bible has not been changed since it was written, prove that God does not like gays and does not approve of gay marriage.
briantheliberal says2014-04-28T20:42:44.6651583-05:00
Marriage was created by god? No, it wasn't. That is just another example of religious ignorance and propaganda. And anyone with a fourth grade education knows that HIV is NOT exclusive to homosexuals. It's an STD that ANYONE can get. Not all gay people have HIV, and it's much more common among straight people in many countries around the world, including places where homosexuality is criminalized.
briantheliberal says2014-04-28T20:45:48.2606270-05:00
And when you actually have a SECULAR reason based on logic instead on religious nonsense, then people will actually take you seriously. Until then, you are a bigot forcing your religion on other people.
marviniscool says2014-04-28T20:59:07.6230814-05:00
@SNP1 God does like gays, He loves them just as He loves you, me, and everyone on this planet. God designed sexual relations to be between a man and woman(Genesis 2:18-24), homosexuality is forbidden in scripture (Genesis 19; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; 1 Timothy 1:9-10.) The bible was inspired by God and written by godly men. Many scholars, christian or atheist, will admit that the bible has been remarkably well-preserved over the centuries. That being said, there is also no evidence that the Bible has been edited, revised, or tampered with. The existence of God can't be proved or disproved. But there is evidence for God. For example: If there is no God, then how did life arise from non-life? Also every effect must have a cause. The universe and everything in it is an effect. There must something that caused everything to come into existence. There must be something "un-caused" in order to cause everything else to come into existence. That "un-caused" cause is God. Every culture throughout history has had some form of law. Everyone has a sense of right and wrong. Murder, lying, stealing, and immorality are almost universally rejected. Where did this sense of right and wrong come from if not from a holy God? I encourage you to look up some people that can help and better explain than I can: John Lennox, William Lane Craig, Frank Turek, Ravi Zacharias, and there's plenty more talk about this stuff. Now, prove to me that there is no god, and that the bible has been changed, and that God approves of homosexuality. And I would like to ask you and everyone who is not a christian a question, "If it were proven that God is real, and that christianity is 100% true, would you become a christian?"
SNP1 says2014-04-28T21:11:13.9711743-05:00
"Many scholars, christian or atheist, will admit that the bible has been remarkably well-preserved over the centuries." Source please. | "That being said, there is also no evidence that the Bible has been edited, revised, or tampered with." HA! "In fact, after the death of Jesus a whole flood of books that claimed to be inspired appeared.... Disputes over which ones were true were so intense that the debate continued for centuries. Finally in the fourth century a group of church leaders called a council and took a vote. The 66 books that comprised our cherished Bible were declared to be Scripture by a vote of 568 to 563." Answering Christianity's Most Puzzling Questions by: Richard Sisson, Christian apologist. "A study of 150 Greek [manuscripts] of the Gospel of Luke has revealed more than 30,000 different readings.... It is safe to say that there is not one sentence in the New Testament in which the [manuscript] is wholly uniform." The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible by: Rev. George Author. Want more? | " If there is no God, then how did life arise from non-life?" Abiogenesis, I subscribe to the VERY well supported RNA World Hypothesis | "Also every effect must have a cause. The universe and everything in it is an effect. There must something that caused everything to come into existence." Actually, that is not correct. I recommend Lawrence Krauss's book "A Universe From Nothing". | "Every culture throughout history has had some form of law. Everyone has a sense of right and wrong. Murder, lying, stealing, and immorality are almost universally rejected." Morality comes from the development of empathy. There are some morals that almost certainly seem that would come up with empathy. Also, there are some that do not find murder wrong. There are some that don't find lying to be immoral. Morality is subjective. | "Now, prove to me that there is no god" Not how the burden of proof works. As an atheist I have the Null Hypothesis. | "and that the bible has been changed" I have given you 2 example. | "and that God approves of homosexuality" First, I do not believe in God. Second, what God? | "And I would like to ask you and everyone who is not a christian a question, "If it were proven that God is real, and that christianity is 100% true, would you become a christian?"" I would accept that it is true, but if the Bible is also proven to be 100% correct I would not worship the God of that book. I would accept the religion as being true, I would believe in that God, but that God is one of the worst beings to ever exist and does not deserve worship of any kind.
briantheliberal says2014-04-28T21:14:16.9291471-05:00
SNP1, he doesn't have any sources because he doesn't know what he is talking about.
SNP1 says2014-04-28T21:16:39.6998270-05:00
Briantheliberal: I know that, it was pretty obvious based on his response.
Cat_Lover says2014-04-29T09:37:08.4436130-05:00
I just don't understand why people thousands of years ago could know how many layers the earth has... Http://www.Miraclesofthequran.Com/scientific_23.Html
Comrade_Silly_Otter says2014-04-29T09:38:53.6905431-05:00
Obvious biased source...
Cat_Lover says2014-04-29T09:39:54.3808130-05:00
That doesn't matter! It's still in the Quran!
Comrade_Silly_Otter says2014-04-29T09:44:28.4362191-05:00
It DOES matter, it is a major factor.
Cat_Lover says2014-04-29T09:45:11.5390191-05:00
It's in the Quran otter, that's proof for a God right there?
Cat_Lover says2014-04-29T09:45:56.1238191-05:00
Right there!*
Cat_Lover says2014-04-29T09:46:35.6752130-05:00
You guys have been asking me for proof of a god for weeks and now I give you proof and you're worried about a biased site?!?
Comrade_Silly_Otter says2014-04-29T09:48:20.9074191-05:00
Because a book claiming that its the truth doesn't sway us.
Cat_Lover says2014-04-29T09:49:56.6290191-05:00
..... You know, I actually had respect for you, now I don't, the earth has seven layers, we know that, and the Quran says it as well, how could people have known that so long ago?!
Comrade_Silly_Otter says2014-04-29T09:51:34.8676130-05:00
Hey, I apologize for not having the same beliefs. I respect yours,
SNP1 says2014-04-29T09:52:21.8236130-05:00
You know there were a LOT of religions that used the number 7 for MANY things for the longest time, right? Also, there are FIVE layers of Earth (not including the atmosphere), the crust, the upper mantle, the mantle, the outer core, and the inner core. The atmosphere has 5 main layers, the Exosphere, the Thermosphere, the Mesosphere, the Stratosphere, and the Troposphere. That adds up to 10, more than what the Quaran says. There are still more lesser layers of the atmosphere.
Cat_Lover says2014-04-29T09:54:09.9472130-05:00
Please go to this site,mi know its biased, but just go to it, it's really accurate.. Http://www.Answering-christianity.Com/earth.Htm
Comrade_Silly_Otter says2014-04-29T10:00:09.4804130-05:00
I apologize Cat, but why follow a God who oppresses others of different beliefs, or sexuality, etc? Why follow a god who wants sacrifice and sentence people to death because of certain things? Seems quite off. I shall always remain agnostic until I find the proof that suits me.
Cat_Lover says2014-04-29T12:10:17.2648130-05:00
Are you sure it's that ou dotn have the proof? Or is it that you have the proof, but you don't want God to exist?
SNP1 says2014-04-29T12:14:09.8498255-05:00
Cat_Lover: Did you read my comment? The Quaran was WRONG, like with most of it's claims.
CoolPeppers12 says2014-04-29T12:14:10.5518570-05:00
God never said who we should marry!! Okay? Does the BIBLE say we should just marry a man with a woman? No! It doesn't. Humans can marry any human they wish. Regardless of sex, color or sexuality. ACCEPT it.
SNP1 says2014-04-29T14:16:29.9809799-05:00
If gay marriage becomes legal how is it being shoved down people's throats? No one is being forced to get a gay marriage, it is just allowing gays to marry. Not allowing them to marry is shoving your belief down their throat.
Chimera says2014-04-29T14:25:31.8620836-05:00
I don't see why people are still arguing over this topic. A civil right that isn't extended to all who use that right is nothing but a right based in privilege. Freedom for the few isn't freedom at all. Everyone should be able to marry whoever they want, as long as both parties are of age, consenting, and can sign a document.
Cat_Lover says2014-04-29T19:51:43.0949060-05:00
Actually cool peppers, the bible does talk about sexuality.

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