Has America done more good or bad to the world?

Posted by: PreferNotToBeLabeled

Behave yourself... 'Merica!

  • Good

  • Bad

57% 16 votes
43% 12 votes
  • I'll admit, America sticks it nose where it doesn't belong sometimes, however, overall, America has done more good than bad. For instance, without American intervention in WWII, we would all most likely be speaking Deustch right now.

  • The United States, like ANY country, has committed terrible acts of inhumanity, but the effect we have on the world is not all bad. In 2004 ALONE the US provided 71.2 BILLION DOLLARS in foreign aid from only private foundations. That's just what private citizens and corporations donated, and that's only the number that went outside the country. The US budget also has provisions to the tune of 1.5 billion dollars for foreign aid alone. Count in our ever evolving political field in the direction of more liberal social policies as well as foreign responsibilities of being the most powerful nation on earth, and I'd say we are at least headed in the right direction, and we're certainly doing more to try to do good than anyone else is.


  • Definitely, more good! Have we made mistakes? Absolutely. Every nation/government does. Still, the good far outweighs the bad.

  • We are not the ones whom started the wars against Indian tribes, those had been taking place for centuries. The Indians, just like any other Waring nation, had a chance to defeat the colonial powers and were defeated. Do we feel sorry for beating the Mexicans in the Mexican- American war? No we do not. The Indians were a defeated people whom were subsumed to disease and technology.

  • America has been bad since the beginning killing millions of Indians then taking their land. Creating a government with "freedom for all" but only freedom for white rich heterosexual males. Disregarding the Constitution since the day it was even created. People act like modern America is so awful when actually it's just everything. America was crap, is crap and might always be crap until they stop trying to be Christian theocracy filled with more hypocrisy than any other government. We cause war after war because they don't when to just stop policing the world and half of the wars they start didn't even need to happen. Some of the wars are just hypocrisy; many Americans act like the Middle East is awful for their Islamic theocracy when Americans are no better with their Christian theocracy. The U.S constitution hasn't matter in politics since the day it was written. Nobody was ever free, there was never justice and America has done a lot more bad than good.

  • Enslaving blacks, making genocide on native Americans and terrorizing foreign nations to take their resources.

  • It doesn't matter which country, well all have done more worse than good to this world. America is not special in any way. So the answer is no.

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discomfiting says2014-05-26T21:21:12.7342302-05:00
Americans say Hitler was so wrong for the genocide for Jews when they took an entire country's population, killed them off and then took their land then stuffed the remainder of Indians in reservations.
discomfiting says2014-05-26T21:44:10.6856475-05:00
American only intervened with WW2 because of the Pearl Harbor attacks. It wasn't about protecting or saving the Jews, blacks, homosexuals and disarming the Nazi stranglehold of Germany and spread to other questions.
SamStevens says2014-05-26T21:58:42.0095074-05:00
@discomforing: America also got into the war since Germany declared war on the U.S. which basically brought the america into the European conflict.
discomfiting says2014-05-26T22:05:15.4364000-05:00
Germany didn't declare war on U.S until after the pearl harbor attacks; regardless of Germany declaring war on the U.S, we would have went to war with the axis powers regardless BECAUSE of the attacks. Germany declaring war didn't cause America do anything they weren't going to do anyway.
bengrf says2014-05-26T22:11:12.9261284-05:00
As this is not an option in the poll, nether. Governments act in their own self interest and the United Sates is no different. The United States became a formidable world power after the Spanish-American war, the motive being to gain control of Spanish holdings in the new world. Something that any nation would have done at the time to increase their own power. During WWI the US waited for the end than entered for political benefit; something any nation out to gain trading relations after a war would do. One thing is cretin though if the US didn't do these actions and ones like them some other nation would have. Saying the US was ether good or bad makes the false assumption that an alternative exists.
discomfiting says2014-05-26T23:06:47.3448716-05:00
@bengrf, I'm not disagreeing with you but using 'america got involved with ww2' as being a reason for an example of America doing good backfires because it was personalized agenda and not an act of heroism or decency.
ararmer1919 says2014-05-27T11:03:18.3522891-05:00
Discomforting. You do realize that prior to Germany declaring war on us and prior to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor the US was giving 100s of millions of dollars worth of goods to the allies. Goods that pretty much made a HUGE difference between victory and defeat. In fact, basically the Russians never would have been able to turn the tide during Operation Barbarossa if it weren't for the huge amounts of American supplies that allowed them to stay in the fight. Food, fuel (lots of fuel) Medicean, bandages, clothing, shoes, ammo, vehicles, planes, tanks, steel, iron, lead, ect. Ect. Ect. How is this not US interventionism? You sound like your pretty mad. You mad bro?
discomfiting says2014-05-27T13:44:30.8630639-05:00
We actually didn't give weapons to the allies. It was not an act of selflessness. We actually SOLD weapons to BOTH sides. America didn't give a care in the world about what was happening over there; they actually loved it because they were making money from selling weapons and equipment to the axis and allies powers.
discomfiting says2014-05-27T13:47:52.7787664-05:00
After December 7, 1941, America solely SOLD weapons and equipment to the allies because due to the attacks, they were then brought into the war. Still not an act of selflessness because America SOLD them; looking for profit. It was not a donation or a given or an act of decency.
discomfiting says2014-05-27T13:54:54.4698785-05:00
Side note: Some American companies and people were selling weapons and needed items to the axis powers well into the U.S involvement as late as 1944. Such as Prescott Bush and Standard Oil specifically giving them plans and help in order to make their own synthetic fuel allowing them to carry on attacks.
ararmer1919 says2014-05-27T16:29:00.9286473-05:00
Lol. Please go google the Lend-Lease Act and educate yourself. As for your claim that American business were dealing with Axis powers as well. Well for starters the US has this thing called a "free market" system. Meaning that if a private owned business, not government owned, wants to deal with some, there really isn't anything the government can do about it. Second off. While I can't speak for all the different business who did this because I don't know all the different ones involved. However I do know that many (you mentioned Prescott Bush and Standard Oil) were multi-international corporations who already had standing contracts with many different nations PRIOR to the start of ww2. Many of these nations simply choose not to end and or break their already standing contracts. Not saying they aren't aholes for continuing said business, but... Also it's pretty obvious you are in fact mad bro.
discomfiting says2014-05-27T17:18:02.4186303-05:00
If you want to get technical, no we don't have a free market. Nobody does. Free market economics doesn't exist in a pure form unless a government doesn't exist. America doesn't even have the 'freest' markets. We have this thing called embargo which is quite common where companies are You should educate yourself before telling me to. Look up Export Control Act. Embargoes are common, you might want to look them up. As for your Lend-Lease act, um that's kind of self exploration to how it's NOT a donation or gift. LEND means to give something to somebody else and have it returned. LEASE is "a contract by which one party conveys land, property, services, etc., to another for a specified time, usually in return for a periodic payment". It was not a donation, the countries gave us repayment/compensation. There's also the Anglo-American loan which was not a donation, but a LOAN. I'm not mad at all. I'm having a discussion and explaining how America has done more bad than good.
labarum says2014-05-27T17:30:57.9261605-05:00
America has a mixed market leaning free market. We did give England like 40 destroyers in 1941 prior to the pearl Harbor attack for practically nothing. I forget what the act was called, but I do remember it. Also, notice how we only gave these lend leases to the allies and not the axis?
labarum says2014-05-27T17:31:33.7007029-05:00
Discomfiting, you do seem to be mad bro
labarum says2014-05-27T17:34:32.7274505-05:00
And i wouldn't be dissing America's isolation in the war, when you had just said your voting comments " We cause war after war because they don't when to just stop policing the world" sounds like you wouldn't want us in a war but here, you are arguing different. Isn't strange?
discomfiting says2014-05-27T17:38:14.7792739-05:00
I wasn't arguing that we should've or shouldn't have been in the war. I'm arguing that it was not an act of selflessness or heroism. It was an act of self protection and greediness. Which is like every other government but it still doesn't make it a heroic act. PhoenixWrong gave it as an alleged example of america doing something good when I disagree that America was truly doing an act of good but instead an act of greed and self centered reasons.
labarum says2014-05-27T17:40:22.2579569-05:00
Self centered reasons... Like preserving your nation and the people whom live in it from being taken over by genocidal whackos? For some reasons this doesn't sound to self centered.
labarum says2014-05-27T17:43:57.1011569-05:00
Also, lets face it! Germany and Japan were beating France, Britain, and the Soviet Union like it was nothing; and these nations were considered world powers. It is not unreasonable to see why we were timid to enter war.
labarum says2014-05-27T17:49:09.5884969-05:00
Lets look at some of the good things that America has done, seeing as how you would prefer not to do so. Introduce the first republic in which poor men could become leaders, first nation to make freedom of religion a law, first nation to support industrial capitalism ( not to be confused with Merchential capitalism of the colonial empires)
labarum says2014-05-27T17:54:28.8874800-05:00
From industrial capitalism we have seen some of the most inspirational discoveries in the modern world ( steam ships, coal ships, gasoline, electricity, light bulbs, affordable auto mobiles, the airplane, much of the internet that we know today, submarines, telegraph, telephone, and the camera.
discomfiting says2014-05-27T17:54:37.4557986-05:00
America was already taken over by a bunch of genocidal wackos...... The 500 years of Indian removal, dehumanization of minorities and everybody NOT English male descendant. They (the axis powers) were winning, yes. But America didn't get involved to prevent them (the soon to be allies) from losing. If America saw Hitler was a threat to their society, government and way of life, then they wouldn't have waited until they were attacked and they certainly wouldn't have sold weapons and equipment to both sides of the war. They only entered the war because of Pearl Harbor and US declaring war on Japan and then the axis powers declaring war on the U.S. The founding fathers were racist slave owners that built a nation on freedom but only for the white rich heterosexual males religious males. They left for the escape of theocracy (along with other things) and the fact that we already ended up back in a near theocracy is pathetic. People were still forced to live under Christian laws, still forced to abide by selective biblical laws, discriminated against for their religion by the government along with masses of injustice. Our capitalism turned sour real quick and plundered into 'crony capitalism'.
discomfiting says2014-05-27T17:57:34.3090800-05:00
My opinion will not change and neither will yours, let's just agree to disagree.
labarum says2014-05-27T18:18:02.1246031-05:00
No, this is a debating site. We will argue until one of us gives in to the other opinion or we are both to exhausted to go on. To begin with, America is not 500 years old, you are like 300 years off. Secondly, The Axis was steam rolling over what were considered the top 3 powers of the world. If this were the case, then why on Earth would you want to declare war on an alliance hailed to be UNSTOPPABLE!!! Most Americans realized this and believed that the best way to keep Hitler and Tojo away from America was to not go sending the bombers. Might give the wrong impression. They tired to avoid war for as long as they could until it was unavoidable because they felt that they too would have been beaten. The American government DID NOT SELL WEAPONS TO THE AXIS DURING THE WAR, only the allies. You call the founding father racist, and sexist but you fail to realize that these men were from the 18th century. Is it fair to judge 18th century thinking from a 21st century set of morals? Would it be fair vice versa? You cannot judge them on principles that were unknown to them. Also, many of the founding fathers were indeed anti-slavery. The only reason why it was permitted into the union during the constitutional convention was so that the southern states would join. Also, did you know that the reason why they decided to pay their politicians was so that poor men could be elected into office? You say that people were forced to live under Christian laws? You mean laws like- DO NOT MURDER, or - DO NOT STEAL, or - DO NOT RAPE. I know these are just some of the example so the oppressive christian laws. ( I really hope you picked up on the sarcasm) I have never heard of institutionalized religious discrimination in this nation... I have heard of the 1st amendment though, which kind of refutes your claims. And no, America is not a ' crony capitalism'. Crony Capitalism is were the government controls the government. After the big government bailouts for GM and Solyndra, Seuss who owned a damn big part of their companies.
labarum says2014-05-27T18:21:53.9288462-05:00
Crony capitalism means that the government is controlled by corporations. Guess who owns a damn big part of those companies.
labarum says2014-05-27T18:23:19.7600462-05:00
The government owned over 500 million shares of GM before selling it
muricamurray says2014-05-27T18:24:55.3568462-05:00
America is the greatest nation of all time
muricamurray says2014-05-27T18:25:07.7900462-05:00
muricamurray says2014-05-27T18:25:26.0239868-05:00
You guys are all commie lovin jew haters
muricamurray says2014-05-27T18:25:43.1372965-05:00
Hahahaha just kidding i love you all
SemperVI says2014-05-27T18:25:43.5454117-05:00
On June 5, 1973, following news that the American Red Cross had run out of money as a result of aid efforts for recent natural disasters, Sinclair recorded what would become his most famous radio editorial, "The Americans." While paying tribute to American success, ingenuity, and generosity to people in need abroad, Sinclair decried that when America faced crisis itself, it often seemed to face that crisis alone. Perhaps you should read it as it says it best. The United States dollar took another pounding on German, French and British exchanges this morning, hitting the lowest point ever known in West Germany. It has declined there by 41% since 1971 and this Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least-appreciated people in all the earth. As long as sixty years ago, when I first started to read newspapers, I read of floods on the Yellow River and the Yangtse. Who rushed in with men and money to help? The Americans did. They have helped control floods on the Nile, the Amazon, the Ganges and the Niger. Today, the rich bottom land of the Misssissippi is under water and no foreign land has sent a dollar to help. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy, were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of those countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When the franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When distant cities are hit by earthquakes, it is the United States that hurries into help... Managua Nicaragua is one of the most recent examples. So far this spring, 59 American communities have been flattened by tornadoes. Nobody has helped. The Marshall Plan .. The Truman Policy .. All pumped billions upon billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now, newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent war-mongering Americans. I'd like to see one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplanes. Come on... Let's hear it! Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tristar or the Douglas 107? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all international lines except Russia fly American planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or women on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy and you find men on the moon, not once, but several times ... And safely home again. You talk about scandals and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everyone to look at. Even the draft dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, most of them ... Unless they are breaking Canadian laws .. Are getting American dollars from Ma and Pa at home to spend here. When the Americans get out of this bind ... As they will... Who could blame them if they said 'the hell with the rest of the world'. Let someone else buy the Israel bonds, Let someone else build or repair foreign dams or design foreign buildings that won't shake apart in earthquakes. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name to you 5,000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbours have faced it alone and I am one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of these. But there are many smug, self-righteous Canadians. And finally, the American Red Cross was told at its 48th Annual meeting in New Orleans this morning that it was broke. This year's disasters .. With the year less than half-over… has taken it all and nobody...But nobody... Has helped. -- Gordan Sinclair
ararmer1919 says2014-05-27T21:04:00.8434898-05:00
SemperVI wow that was a beautiful piece. Thank you for sharing that.
ararmer1919 says2014-05-27T21:04:59.6250434-05:00
Labarum. Thank you for trying to talk to this guy. Iv been trying but seems I haven't gotten very far.
muricamurray says2014-05-27T23:02:52.9769396-05:00
America is the greatest place of all time
muricamurray says2014-05-27T23:03:23.9499311-05:00
America! Gotta love it...
clgaram720 says2014-05-28T01:36:01.3739173-05:00
I SOOO love hearing all about how present day Americans are evil for wiping out whole tribes of Native Americans and enslaving blacks etc. People, I was born in 1989. I have never owned a slave. I never forced a Native American off land that was rightfully his. I was not at the Alamo. The sins of the past are the sins of the past, you don't get to punish and hate the children for the sins of their fathers. I know it says that in the bible, but that's ridiculous and Jesus wouldn't tolerate that crap. If we are going to judge everyone by the sins of their ancestors, then we have to do it to EVERYONE. So down with the Catholic church for the inquisition. Down with Mongolia for Genghis Khan. Down with Japan for the Bataan Death March. Down with Germany, and Austria and Poland for the Holocaust. Down with Spain for the Conquistadors. Down with China for Tienanmen Square. Down with Pakistan for public stonings (oh sorry, that one's too recent for you right?) Down with France for political imprisonment in the Bastille. Down with Britain for slavery, and oh, sorry that one belongs to EVERY COUNTRY EVER. "Let he who has never sinned cast the first stone." PS: We're not all part of the "Evil Christian Theocracy", it's just that an Atheist like myself knows a good idea when she hears it, even if it's coming from a book I disagree with.

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