How do you identify in terms of political orientation?

Posted by: imabench

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Pretty big leftist/liberal/democrat

115 votes
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Libertarian

81 votes
14 comments
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Pretty bug rightist/conservative/republican

62 votes
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Left leaning centrist/moderate/independent

37 votes
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Right leaning centrist/moderate/independent

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Complete centrist/moderate/independent

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Nazi

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Shadowguynick says2013-09-03T14:08:28.7661925-05:00
Most definitely a Nazi. Hail Hitler.
imabench says2013-09-03T14:10:07.1317225-05:00
Lol sorry about that XD, I was trying to think of what the opposite of a libertarian would be and 'Nazi' was the only thing that came to mind because I couldnt think of 'authoritarian/fascist' at the time
MysticEgg says2013-09-03T14:11:13.8849783-05:00
Oh, Shadow...It's "Sieg heil!" Not Hail... Silly Shadow! :P
Shadowguynick says2013-09-03T14:23:10.9631575-05:00
Yes, but in the American Nazi Party we translate it to Hail Hitler so as not to confuse our slower members.
MysticEgg says2013-09-03T14:26:59.8256726-05:00
There are fast members in the Nazi Party? ;)
Shadowguynick says2013-09-03T14:33:50.0324981-05:00
Indeed, some of our members are faster. So fast, that when they run words somehow translate from german to english because that's how physics works. And then our lord Hitler said "Erdnussbutter und Gelee-Sandwiches sind die besten, aber wenn ich esse ein Schinkenbrot Ich bevorzuge Oscar Meyer." Amen.
Shadowguynick says2013-09-03T14:44:13.2302314-05:00
Justin it's okay. You can come to the Nazi party where we don't judge. Equality for all the blond eyed blue hair people we say!
lannan13 says2013-09-03T15:33:17.7597831-05:00
No Conservatives?
Shadowguynick says2013-09-03T15:42:42.7870488-05:00
Third from the bottom up. Number 5
Shadowguynick says2013-09-03T16:06:01.7283510-05:00
3 are pretty bugs.
KingHenrikLundqvist says2013-09-03T21:53:56.4273798-05:00
Where is Far Left/Communism? And liberal isn't at all near the left, they are centrist.
Nyx999 says2013-09-04T21:17:19.2325381-05:00
Justin you are NOT moderate, I've debated with you a lot and you're very conservative. Just because the conservatives hate you (and I can't blame them) doesn't mean that you're not one of them.
emospongebob527 says2013-09-09T17:03:45.9097029-05:00
Where's Anarchism?
Shadowguynick says2013-09-09T21:35:59.0322279-05:00
There is one supporter. We need more recruits. Recognize the awe inspiring might of Hitler! We have meetings on Tuesdays, and our favorite baseball team is the Phillies.
Sitara says2013-09-09T22:09:16.4478390-05:00
Liberalism is not centrist. Centrism is a combo of liberalism and conservatism. Get your facts straight.
Nyx999 says2013-10-15T19:38:53.2666740-05:00
Where's socialism? :)
higa123 says2013-11-04T09:44:41.2959993-06:00
@Nyx999: It's in the garbage can where it belongs.
Haroush says2013-12-05T12:02:51.7549935-06:00
Anarchism is Libertarianism and Liberalism is socialism. Meaning they go hand in hand. I know, some of you hate me now. And no, Republicanism doesn't go hand in hand with fascism/Authoritarianism because a republic doesn't stand for a dictatorship. You may try naming a few Republicans at hand who fit the shoe, but the fact remains, there are quite a few fake Republicans out there.
Haroush says2013-12-05T12:03:02.6195920-06:00
Anarchism is Libertarianism and Liberalism is socialism. Meaning they go hand in hand. I know, some of you hate me now. And no, Republicanism doesn't go hand in hand with fascism/Authoritarianism because a republic doesn't stand for a dictatorship. You may try naming a few Republicans at hand who fit the shoe, but the fact remains, there are quite a few fake Republicans out there.
Jingram994 says2013-12-06T05:08:39.0933651-06:00
Actually, anarchism and libertarianism are both separate political ideologies, that both happen to have a number of the same core values. They differ quite a lot in both 'end goals' and 'means of achieving those goals', among other things. And liberal ideologies are not necessarily also socialist. None of those things necessarily go 'hand in hand'; it's just that a lot of the time people who like one also like the other, and stick them together into an 'amalgamated' political position. And a country doesn't have to be a literal dictatorship to be authoritarian. A democratic republic can still be a very authoritarian country if individual rights and the freedoms of citizens take a 'back seat' to the country's interests, or if it's the sort of country that coerces/'requires' a high/total level of 'obedience' from it's citizens.
Haroush says2013-12-06T07:28:59.6490658-06:00
@Jingram, Anyone can see going back to our previous arguments in the past we both have completely different takes on these issues. Also, Just like people have similar views as to you, many as well do to me. Therefore, your opinion is not absolute as the same to goes to me. Let's not let narcism take over these debates.
Numidious says2013-12-06T13:09:29.0567957-06:00
@Haroush you have it backwards... The original meaning of "Libertarianism" is anarcho - socialism or anarcho - syndicalism. Lately it has been changed to anarcho - capitalism. Liberalism, if you look at the original term, means free - market capitalism or social liberalism or to be more "allowing" (liberal) in any sense. You have American interpretations of the terms, but strictly speaking that's what they mean. You're kind of close with "republicanism" but strictly speaking it means a state without a king. Res - matter, publica - of the public, thus a matter of the public rather than a private matter for a king. REPUBLICANS, as in the US party, are divided between several ideologies, but are mostly "neoconservative", "corporate capitalist", and "theocratic" in ideology.
Numidious says2013-12-06T13:09:33.4208114-06:00
@Haroush you have it backwards... The original meaning of "Libertarianism" is anarcho - socialism or anarcho - syndicalism. Lately it has been changed to anarcho - capitalism. Liberalism, if you look at the original term, means free - market capitalism or social liberalism or to be more "allowing" (liberal) in any sense. You have American interpretations of the terms, but strictly speaking that's what they mean. You're kind of close with "republicanism" but strictly speaking it means a state without a king. Res - matter, publica - of the public, thus a matter of the public rather than a private matter for a king. REPUBLICANS, as in the US party, are divided between several ideologies, but are mostly "neoconservative", "corporate capitalist", and "theocratic" in ideology.
Jingram994 says2013-12-06T22:34:54.7303371-06:00
First of all, thanks Numidious; I couldn't be bothered going to find all those literal definitions myself. @Haroush; Of course; we'll just leave it at a staid 'agree to disagree', then? I wasn't trying to imply that you were deliberately posting incorrect definitions, or that your views on the matter were 'wrong'; I was pointing out where I could see that your definitions appeared to be incorrect or misinformed, and then extrapolated on that. Clearly I didn't do as good a job as Numidious did.
Haroush says2013-12-07T01:08:08.5172609-06:00
@Numidious @Jingram It's okay. You all can have the glory. I don't need it. I have greater treasures I seek. The Republican Party may not be what it once was, but it;s okay. We have secret weapons our oppressors don't know of. One of our greatest weapons we are using right now. Trust me you'd never guess and I would never tell you (of course). By the way... Do you have some names in mind with those labels Numidious? (neoconservative, corporate capitalist, theocratic) Also, which part of this "democratic republic" makes this "a very authoritarian country"? Does a democracy oppress people more or a republic, in your opinion? You have to pick between the two. This is a question of which one would you rather have.
Haroush says2013-12-07T01:14:08.5342530-06:00
That is if these two were the only two systems that existed a republic and a democracy....
Jingram994 says2013-12-07T01:19:16.2476553-06:00
The two are not contradictory concepts, Haroush. Most modern countries are both. From wikipedia: Democracy; "Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens participate equally—either directly or through elected representatives—in the proposal, development, and creation of laws. It encompasses social, economic and cultural conditions that enable the free and equal practice of political self-determination." Republic; "A republic is a form of government in which affairs of state are a "public matter" (Latin: res publica), not the private concern of the rulers, in which public offices are consequently appointed or elected rather than privately accommodated (i.E., through inheritance or divine mandate). In modern times, the common definition of a republic is a government which excludes a monarch." The US is a fair bit more qualitatively authoritarian than 90% of other first world countries are. I never stated that the US in particular was, until just now, actually. And I'm assuming your 'secret weapon' isn't public support, because the republican part lost that when they ended up getting the government shut down. You clearly also aren't aware that the republican party, by dint of pushing for greater control with regards to social issues, such as abortion, homosexual rights, etc. Is a lot more authoritarian than the democratic party is. A country that pushes for, wants, or has, a very high level of control over the social/personal aspects of it's citizens lives, is authoritarian. A democratic republic can be just as authoritarian as a dictatorship, given the opportunity. And both a non-democratic republic and a non-republican democracy can be, as well. A non-democratic republic is worse, however, as can be seen in the definitions above.
Haroush says2013-12-07T01:41:22.0551174-06:00
@Jingram, With all do respect, Why do yo have to make things so complicated? If you don't mind, please rephrase your response and shorten your answers. Maybe I need to rephrase my questions? No disrespect. I am trying to make things short and simple here. I am not looking for your reasoning and your explanation for your stance. Just your answer without the reasoning and explanation. Let's walk into a conversation, not run into one.
Jingram994 says2013-12-07T04:07:15.3208799-06:00
Yeah, sorry. Also, the lack of formatting here probably makes that a lot worse than it should be. If we could space things out, add paragraphs and all that, this wouldn't be a problem. Sorry, but just stating a short response, with nothing to back up or explain that answer, doesn't really appeal to me as a way of responding to questions. Basically, a democracy is an 'evolution' of the basic 'republican' system of governance, and by definition has a lower chance of being 'more authoritarian', as the system is inherently more 'equal' and has greater respect for individual citizens. With non-democratic republicanism, this is not necessarily the case.
Haroush says2013-12-07T12:23:26.2314845-06:00
@Jingram, So are you saying the democracy part of a "democratic republic" plays a very significant role in making the "democratic republic" a fair system? Also, yes! The formatting on this website definitely isn't the best. And don't worry about backing up your answers, as you can see I am going to give you a chance to do that. Really the only way to make debates on formats like this, is through simple Q&A style debates. Unless of course we were in an an actual debate like you can do on here. Still, I believe the readers would get the most out of our conversations through A Q&A style debate in any situation since it helps to organize a conversation and bring out direct answers and explanations. By the way, I used to own my own media website. Formatting definitely played a key role in making it a great experience for all of those that visited my website. Unfortunately, I was able to keep it running due to a lack of funds. Maybe I'll create another forum/media website in the future. I am not sure if DDO designed this themselves or simply picked out a design like I did and just customized it little bit. From the looks of it... They designed it themselves. This being said, it shouldn't be that hard for them to change the formatting on here.
Jingram994 says2013-12-07T22:54:26.2059683-06:00
You ran your own website? Not bad. And yeah, that's what I keep saying; formatting works fine everywhere else, and I do understand that the poll section is 'new', but it's not *that* new, and they should probably have worked this issue out by now. Also, yes, that is pretty much what I am stating; democratic systems are inherently more equal and fair that republican systems, as the basic democratic system is essentially an evolution of the basic republican system, and is specifically designed to do this, whereas republicanism is essentially any non-autocratic government style, where government issues are considered to be 'public', as opposed to 'private' issues that a king/the 'nobility'/whatever deals with. A non-democratic republic doesn't rule out oligarchy, heavy 'corporatism' elements, and the like.
ChadIrvin says2014-05-14T23:47:41.6319544-05:00
I am a constitutionalist.
Numidious says2014-05-24T20:45:14.9168645-05:00
"Do you have some names in mind with those labels Numidious?" Yes. The only Republican congressman to vote against the Iraq and Afghanistan wars was Ron Paul. The rest voted for this Neoconservative action. Many of Republicans in the senate voted to keep the monopoly of big pharma http://www.naturalnews.com/021831_FDA_reform_Big_Pharma.html - a corporate capitalist action. And Republicans have consistently voted against abortion rights for women, something that I should not need to provide evidence for. This, being religion based, was a theocratic (theo - god, related to his perceived words, actions, the bible. Qur'an, torah etc. cratic - rule by) action. Regardless of where you are pro or con these decisions, that's what they mean.
SGM_iz_SekC says2014-06-04T15:48:04.0992704-05:00
@shadowguynick *HEIL HITLER (you didn't show enough emotion)
debate_power says2014-06-17T15:25:01.7587408-05:00
Just one Nazi?
debate_power says2014-06-17T15:25:30.0592847-05:00
Just one Nazi?
debate_power says2014-06-17T15:25:52.2565882-05:00
Oh never mind seven actually
StevenJD says2014-07-23T11:04:49.3830608-05:00
I vote what is best for this country. I am socially liberal and fiscally conservative. I've taken many political tests and about 6 out of ten say I'm a democrat and the other four say I'm a republican.
Osiris_Rosenthorne says2014-09-03T18:15:50.4575572-05:00
But, I have two wings, otherwise, I can't fly:(
debate_power says2014-11-21T15:37:20.2281372-06:00
I'm very glad that I finally found the best political and economic perspective
WillDC22 says2014-12-08T22:19:57.0674345-06:00
I don't know myself well enough, but probably leaning to the left
WillDC22 says2014-12-14T23:08:04.8807325-06:00
I didn't know pretty bugs were conservatives/republicans
shaddamcorrinoIV says2014-12-20T19:45:57.2599221-06:00
No anarchist option?
Kvasir says2014-12-31T19:35:04.4063441-06:00
Liberal has NOTHING to do with being socialist, in the same way being conservative has nothing to do with being capitalist. Those are different things. You can easily be conservative and socialist at the same time.
Berd says2015-04-01T09:42:56.0263003-05:00
None of the above...
debate_power says2015-04-25T15:32:09.7776141-05:00
@Kvasir If you're referring to the way "liberal" and "conservative" are purely contextual (and I believe you are), then I agree with you.
debate_power says2015-04-25T15:38:26.2536924-05:00
Well, there's more to libertarianism than just "minimum" government. If you have private property enforcement, you need government. If all property has to be private, then you need government (or, as some would claim, "governance", which is essentially the same thing) to extend its influence to all property. The "minimum government" bit can be a bit illusory. At their core, all forms of rule-making, including totalitarianism, minarchism, socialism, etc. are all the same thing- they are ways of intentionally attempting to "restrict" "freedom" to achieve different goals.
savalisk says2017-09-15T05:04:55.2073231Z
Center left - Libertarian.
Sergi says2018-01-19T18:31:39.0675210Z
Its pronnounced: Heil
robjohn says2018-10-20T22:25:35.3594393Z
None of the above, I'm a true liberal (individualist).

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