That is what I has hoping to get at reece. The truth is, we ALL know women who have had an abortion. If you are an adult, the chances good that a close woman friend has had an abortion. If young, the chance is high just looking in your family. Mother, aunts, etc. Calling women murders for seeking an abortion hits closer to home than you think.
@TBR it is very probable. Most people where I live despise abortion unless done under special circumstances (ex. Rape resulting in pregnancy). I know a great many women who were impregnated but didn't want to be however. None of them opted for abortion. 1 of them gave the child up for adoption.
@emporer1 - I am not trying to insult you, but challenge your reality. As close as I have been to abortion, I know that many women who get abortions are pro-life, Christians, Catholics etc. (Catholics are the leas likely) When you, a pro-life person calls women "murders", there is a low likelihood that they will talk about it.
The often cited 1:3 (its really closer to 1:4) woman will have an abortion by the time she is in her mid 40s' makes it more than likely in the group of women you know, one or more will have had an abortion.
I wonder what the numbers look like for repeat abortions. I imagine having one abortion makes your several magnitudes more likely to do it again and again. Similar to the criminal trend (jailed once means youre 30% more likely to be jailed multiple times in your lifetime, that kind of thing).
Again, what is interesting to me within this poll is the lack of knowledge. Since I have been connected with abortion my entire life, many women will be very up-front about it with me. Many is not all, that is to say, MOST still would not say outright they have when they have had an abortion. It is naive to think you don't know anyone who has one or more abortions.
I know we disagree on the subject, there is no need to bicker on this poll about that. Point is, you know someone. Chances are high better than 10% of women you know have had one. Would you use the same words like "murder" to refer to your close friend? Your wife? Mother?
They likely think it's not acceptable behavior either, hence the keeping it under wraps and such. I don't completely deny the need for it, but if going forward in your life your first abortion doesnt change you? Then theres something wrong. Theres something wrong with making this means commonplace. Theres something wrong with taking away the shame it involves. It's not something to be flaunted. It should make people uncomfortable. It should not be an easy thing to do and it shouldnt all just go away as easy as a visit to the clinic.
So yes, I'd use the same words. Everyone can continue on feeling uncomfortable about coming out about it if they did and the world will be better for it.
Seems like bad decisions would run rampant if shame wasn't felt as a consequence, if you want to keep the choice personal that is. Otherwise there has to be some kind of physical/administrative/governmental type consequence ... And nobody wants that. I think people have the capacity to be responsible and project judgement of wrongdoers just fine on their own in this instance. So long as no ones out there physically harming these women, looking down on the practice as shameful is the least invasive way to still ensure people are doing the right thing.
Its not so much just the decision ... It's the chain of bad decisions that led to it. All unnecessary mistakes. That's what I mean when I say I have no sympathy for repeat offenders. Their lifestyle hasn't changed a bit. Even if you place the babys life less than that of anything else involved ... You've got to admit that it's rather unnecessary to get to that point in the first place. It all could have been avoided rather easily. At the very least it should not be covered by insurance and should cost 2500 to 5000 bucks per procedure. Maybe a class on human decency required by the state to waive a portion of the fee. There needs to be some kind of recourse for such a waste.