If everything god made was good, why is there so much suffering?

Posted by: retrogamer176

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It's simple: If god is real, he isn't benevolent.

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It WAS good until Adam and Eve sinned.

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It's all part of god's grand design!

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Satan snuck in and ruined everything.

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It started at the big bang, god didn't interfere after. He's just as shocked as we are!

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What do you mean? Nature is kind!

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triangle.128k says2015-04-08T11:35:25.2078192-05:00
If Adam and Eve never sinned, the world would be insanely overpopulated due to no death.
triangle.128k says2015-04-08T11:35:49.6888432-05:00
So heil satan!
retrogamer176 says2015-04-08T11:40:27.8153767-05:00
triangle.128k says2015-04-08T11:42:14.3736820-05:00
I may be wrong but I think that death never existed until Adam and Eve sinned. If that was the case, the world would be over-populated if Adam and Eve never sinned.
retrogamer176 says2015-04-08T11:50:19.7218079-05:00
Yep, and there's a YouTube video of that. I'll send it later, I'm currently at school and YouTube is blocked until lunch.
triangle.128k says2015-04-08T11:55:17.1321525-05:00
Wasn't it by darkmatter2525? I think I saw it before.
retrogamer176 says2015-04-08T11:56:13.0218256-05:00
Yes it was!
PetersSmith says2015-04-08T12:06:12.9437147-05:00
If the Christian God exists, since he is omniscient, that would mean that he allowed evil to exist.
TBR says2015-04-08T12:37:36.1611238-05:00
The entire discussion (as it relates to god-adam/eve) is an example of p[ost hoc ergo propter hoc. Even in the bliss of the garden of Eden, relative suffering would exist.
retrogamer176 says2015-04-08T13:01:05.4787955-05:00
@Mishapqueen wouldn't you say "everything was good until adam and eve sinned" then? The original sin caused the suffering didn't it?
mishapqueen says2015-04-08T13:03:01.2597689-05:00
@retro, yes. We is referring to human kind.
retrogamer176 says2015-04-08T13:15:30.0144246-05:00
That's one of the main choices.
TBR says2015-04-08T13:30:51.0984560-05:00
Retrogamer176 - For what its worth, "everything was good until adam and eve sinned". No. That is not true. Genesis 3:16 "16To the woman He said, "I will greatly multiply Your pain in childbirth,..." So, what I am saying is. Even in what is "perfect" if pain exists, then the same relative good/bad exists, just with a different scale.
retrogamer176 says2015-04-08T13:32:06.3781773-05:00
@TBR you say that like I believe in adam and eve.
TBR says2015-04-08T13:39:18.8374916-05:00
Retrogamer176 - That honestly has nothing to do with a theoretical discussion. What I am getting at generally is, the question of "why is there so much suffering if God exists" is... Flawed. "so much" is all very relative. Life could really suck hard, much harder, and the question would be the same. Life could be cushy, as cushy as in the garden of Eden and suffering would still exist.
TBR says2015-04-08T13:40:44.6097473-05:00
I will lay it out in a brilliant philosophical phrase. "the grass is always greener..."
retrogamer176 says2015-04-08T13:42:21.9500200-05:00
@triangle meh
Jules322 says2015-04-09T08:23:06.9918057-05:00
@PetersSmith You said all that like you just discovered something ground breaking. Yes, God allows evil to exist #KnownFact
Jules322 says2015-04-09T08:29:28.2628376-05:00
Everything God made is good. Sadly though, He gave man free will. Which includes the right to be evil if we want. Resulting in the world's suffering.
TBR says2015-04-09T08:30:32.8549082-05:00
You're sad you have free will
Bolas says2015-04-09T10:10:06.3775536-05:00
@TBR couldn't have said it better.
Jules322 says2015-04-10T08:17:55.4738343-05:00
@TBR If by chance your referring to me, your sad. I said we have free will. But obviously you wasted yours trolling the internet, spreading nonsense, instead of learning how to properly comprehend.
TBR says2015-04-10T08:39:59.0459805-05:00
@Jules322 "Everything God made is good. Sadly though, He gave man free will" - Don't jump down my throat for your words, or poor sentence structure.
Jules322 says2015-04-21T08:19:26.5877614-05:00
@TBR There's nothing wrong with my sentence structure. Your comprehension could use some work though.
Sirhan277 says2015-04-27T20:01:31.5474270-05:00
Not everything god made was of good and joy. He is the creator of all things good and bad including shaytan him self. He is the god of every one and every thing he is the lord of the planets of every star in the sky of every planet and of every speciseis both known and unknown. And you can choose to seek refuge in him or die in your rage and suffering.

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