If someone kills themselves because of harassment from another person, should the harasser be charged with murder?

Posted by: PetersSmith

Let me give you an example: child puts a bully in the suicide note. Another: person commits suicide and it is found out through sources that they were being constantly harassed by a person. Yet another example: a person kills themselves and it is revealed that so-and-so told them to kill themselves the day before. As for "degree" of murder, that's up to you.

  • Yes, the harasser should be charged with murder. If it is revealed that the harasser seems to be one of the main causes for the person to commit suicide, then the harasser, in a sense, murdered them. Literally "bullying someone to death".

  • No, the harasser should not be charged with murder. People commit suicide because of a cumulative amount of factors that threw the person into deeper and deeper depression. That "harasser" was probably just the final push and was the first person(s) that could come to mind.

26% 7 votes
74% 20 votes
  • Okay, many people have been bullied and committed suicide. Eg Amanda Todd. end of story.

  • If the bully was purposely trying to get the victim to kill themselves, then a jury should be allowed to decide if the act was murder.

  • Other people should not be held responsible for someone's poor choices.

  • Absolutely not. If so, then where do we draw the line? "Tommy said I looked fat so I killed myself" Should Tommy do time? I don't think so. And even if the bully was harassing this person day in and day out and they were the main or even sole cause of the person's suicide, I don't think this bully should have anything more than a suspension for bad behavior.

  • Manslaughter maybe.

  • They should be charged with harrasment stalking or threats to the full extent of theaw. but in he end people choose to take their own lives.

    Posted by: Stefy
  • Charged with harassing, or... other charges are possible, but it does not fit the requirements for murder.

    Posted by: TBR
  • If they harass, they should be charged with harassment. The mental strength or stability of that who they harassed should be irrelevant. A crime is a crime. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • It would be mansluaghter

  • I would like to point out that this poll is biased. It says they commit suicide "because of harassment". That is not the case. Everyone is bullied/harassed at some point. How they respond to it determines whether or not there will be suicide. It is up to the person who commits suicide. Stop playing the blame game.

  • The bully clearly is a bad person for driving someone to take their own life, but he's not a murderer because ultimately the suicidal person is the one who made the decision to end their life.

  • No, the harasser should not be charged with murder. However, the harasser must be stopped far before the harassed is made to look like a door mat. In fact, bullies should be punished harshly. Even more so than stalkers and equally to sexual abuser.

    Posted by: Ezk
  • No. Shouldn't get punished for someone else's weakness.

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Ezzyobape says2015-04-26T00:37:05.2382949-05:00
To suicide is the most challenging thing to do in life...And no one can force you to anything you dont want to do this is why the harrasser shouldnt be considered the murderer...Because no one can control your nerves nor your brain. Last time i checked words dont physically hurt people.
briantheliberal says2015-04-26T01:36:52.5463946-05:00
SamStevens, why do you have to be so callous in your wording? While I do not agree that bullies should be charged with murder when their victims commit suicide, let's not forget what drove that person to suicide in the first place.
SamStevens says2015-04-26T01:54:50.3548538-05:00
Briantheliberal: A layer of sugar does not need to be deposited on a person's suicidal actions.
SamStevens says2015-04-26T02:07:01.7776134-05:00
Briantheliberal: " why do you have to be so callous in your wording?" Are you suggesting that my comment should have manifested compassion and sympathy for someone else's personal affairs?
benhos says2015-04-26T10:27:13.8717185-05:00
SamStevens, suicide is not a poor choice... To the victim, suicide is the only escape in the hell that the world is.
dmussi12 says2015-04-26T10:30:10.6038924-05:00
Does anyone know if Vosburg v. Putney could be applied here?
TBR says2015-04-26T10:45:08.6138052-05:00
There may be some extraordinary exception. Say Dr Hannibal Lecter, but that would be an extreme. Constructive manslaughter perhaps?
Mathgeekjoe says2015-04-26T12:13:05.0382508-05:00
The have been cases where the bully purposely is trying to get the victim to kill themselves. I believe in those cases the bully should be convicted of a crime.
CyberConor says2015-04-27T14:23:30.4228784-05:00
They should be charged for harrassment, murder and harrasment are totally different.
Kreakin says2015-04-27T14:27:28.4975306-05:00
Aggravated stalking is the charge raised in a few cases I read about.
CyberConor says2015-04-27T14:46:12.1643364-05:00
I agree, it is a crime, but not murder.
CyberConor says2015-04-27T14:46:43.1151332-05:00
Also, amanda todd posted the videos on her own free will, kinda her fault.
Dookieman says2015-04-27T21:49:45.4122034-05:00
Suppose there is a drug called "the suicidal pill" that, when ingested, makes the person kill themselves. Imagine there is a bully that gets her hand on this drug and puts it in the drink of someone she doesn't like. Once that happens, the person she dislikes takes their life. Could we charge this bully with murder? She deliberately aimed at the death of this other person by giving them the drug. If you say yes, that we should charge this particular bully with murder, then shouldn't you also think that we should charge with murder people who bully others so that their victim will take their life?
PetersSmith says2015-04-27T23:57:48.8961214-05:00
Dookieman: You actually changed my vote to yes.
Kreakin says2015-04-28T10:09:50.6269251-05:00
@Dookieman - No, that scenario would equate to premeditated murder. You knew the effect of the drug would remove the victims free will.

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