If you could go back in time and save Jesus from being killed on the cross, would you?

Posted by: SNP1

For this poll, and this poll only, let's say Jesus is a true historical figure and that Christianity is correct. Under those circumstances, would you save Jesus from death on the cross if you could? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35_JHx_OzA4

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SNP1 says2014-05-17T15:38:37.3649582-05:00
Teemo: Why would that be a bad thing? Are you saying that it is good to let an innocent die just to take away your own accountability?
Teemo says2014-05-17T15:40:09.4963846-05:00
Jesus was meant to die. It was an amazing thing that brought up the amazing miracle. Saving him would be pointless, he would obviously tell you not to. Jesus was meant to die, and it was a huge expression of his love for us. Saving him would ruin all that, he paid for our sins, and died a hero. Why take that all away?
NiamC says2014-05-17T15:40:15.9235846-05:00
This is a very difficult question indeed. Naturally, I would want to save Jesus from dying but if I did, what would happen to Christianity? Jesus dying on the cross makes up such a large proportion of what Christianity is about. Sorry if I am being a bit vague.
SNP1 says2014-05-17T15:42:14.9359846-05:00
Teemo: So, you would rather not be accountable for your actions? Also, if Jesus was meant to die doesn't that mean that Judas should be one of your biggest heroes? Without him the death wouldn't have happened. NiamC: How does Jesus' death make up a large proportion of what Christianity is about? It is about what he taught, is it not?
Teemo says2014-05-17T15:44:44.1655846-05:00
SNP1, you made this poll so that people could share their opinion. Don't contend their perspective unless you challenge them to a debate, regardless however I shall contend your opinions here. Judas was not a hero, he was the one who gave Jesus up, however this was meant to happen. Jesus was supposed to die, if anything God wanted him to die. Why? Because Jesus was sent to earth to save us by dying. Saving him would be going against God's will.
SNP1 says2014-05-17T15:48:46.4023846-05:00
Why, then, isn't Judas a hero? If it was God's will, Judas was following it. If God wanted it to happen then that means Judas was following God's will exactly. This means that Judas is one of the biggest heroes of Christianity. If Judas did it willingly he was then one of the people that followed God's plan the best. If God made him do it then he cannot be seen to be bad.
Teemo says2014-05-17T15:52:27.0799846-05:00
Judas is not the hero, he is just the cause of the problem. Although it was God's will, to others it's supposed to be seen as wrong. So, Judas accusing Jesus is wrong, however the outcome is right. And instead of refuting, state your case on why you should save Jesus, because according to scripture it is a good thing he died on the cross. Read the Bible before making these stupid accusations about Christianity.
SNP1 says2014-05-17T15:56:37.2259846-05:00
I have read the Bible, at least 3 times. You also are trying to say Judas was not a hero but that Jesus needed to die. This does not work. Either Judas was a hero and Jesus death was necessary or Judas was not a hero and Jesus' death was not necessary.
SNP1 says2014-05-17T15:57:43.9471846-05:00
Also, I have not votes, hence I am not showing which side I am taking. I am just curious about each side's position. The only person that voted yes explained why enough that I can't really ask many questions.
Teemo says2014-05-17T15:58:01.4191846-05:00
A false Christian like the majority of them. Have a nice day.
SNP1 says2014-05-17T15:59:55.0027846-05:00
Never claimed to be a Christian, also, even if I was you committed the no true Scotsman fallacy.
Teemo says2014-05-17T17:01:04.3567846-05:00
If you aren't a Christian, then don't talk about thing you know nothing about. It is clear you haven't read the bible. You are like most atheist. They aren't atheist, they are anti theist. They bring down theist for no valid reason. Read the bible properly. Jesus was meant to die. Killing him was a sin, however it was what God has planned. Judas was a sinner, and thus not the hero. Jesus was the hero for accomplishing his father's will. Refrain from commenting any further, you obviously know nothing about Jesus.
SNP1 says2014-05-17T17:24:35.4544767-05:00
Teemo: I was a Christian for 16 years, I have read the Bible countless times. I find it kinda sad how you are reacting to this.
Fanath says2014-05-17T17:32:27.0115846-05:00
Anti-Theist's make fun of theists because of the terrible thing that's come from religion like the Holocaust, Inquisition, 9/11... Need I go on? There's plenty of reasons to hate Christianity and religion.
Fanath says2014-05-17T17:32:45.1231846-05:00
Things*
ChadIrvin says2014-05-17T19:49:21.6127846-05:00
If you believe Judas was a hero because he betrayed Jesus, then that would make Satan a hero for tempting Jesus to remove himself from His death. And Satan is not a hero.
ChadIrvin says2014-05-17T20:10:54.0883846-05:00
Fanath: Islam, Catholicism, and Evolutionists are nowhere near Christianity. The Inquisition was brought on by Roman Catholics who are not Christians. 9/11 was the work of Islamist extremists. The holocaust wad led by a mad man who believed in evolution. And evolution is not Christianity. I don't care what these people claimed they were.
abyteofbrain says2014-05-17T21:02:21.8520618-05:00
Catholicism is a form of Christianity, and Islam is VERY similar to Christianity.
ChadIrvin says2014-05-17T22:18:35.6024776-05:00
Islam is not similar Christianity. The only thing that comes close is Muslims believe Muhammad was a prophet and so was Jesus. However, Jesus was more than just a prophet. He was the Son of God; a perfect being who came to this Earth to die on the cross for man's sins and take the ultimate punishment on Him so we don't have to suffer eternally in Hell. Muhammad was just a man who is considered a prophet. As for Catholicism, it is a form of Christianity, but differs from the Bible greatly. Roman Catholicism differs even more so.
giraffelover says2014-05-18T12:28:01.3523128-05:00
Here's a better idea: go back in time to keep Adam from eating the Forbidden Fruit in the first place.
dichotomyslave says2014-05-18T12:42:15.3033706-05:00
If I was an infidel way back then, I would have my own problems staying alive.
Fanath says2014-05-18T12:44:20.5089706-05:00
@Chadlrvin: Lol wut? 1. My post *never* claimed that 9/11 was from Christians. I know who it was from, lol. I even said at the end of the post: "There's plenty of reasons to hate RELIGION and Christianity" because not all of the things were from Christians. 2. Catholics are Christians.. 3. Hitler used religion to manipulate the Germans. Their belts even said "God on our side" and they killed Jew's because they believed that the Jews had killed Jesus and deserved punishment. Everything you said wasn't a refutation- It was either completely wrong or off topic.
Fanath says2014-05-18T12:48:09.0801706-05:00
"Islam, Catholicism, and Evolutionists are nowhere near Christianity"May 17 2014 08:10 PM "As for Catholicism, it is a form of Christianity" May 17 2014 10:18 PM
Fanath says2014-05-18T12:48:46.2236305-05:00
^ I rest my case. Do you even know what you're talking about?
SNP1 says2014-05-18T12:50:39.5889706-05:00
ChadIrvin: Judas wouldn't be a hero for betraying Jesus, he would be a hero for following God's plan to a t. Was Satan following God's plan or trying to ruin it?
SNP1 says2014-05-18T16:23:10.4470636-05:00
Wow... So many people wouldn't? If you are saying that the only way to be saved would be if Jesus died you are saying that either A. The perfectly moral God's only way of forgiving people was through human sacrifice, something the overwhelming majority of people think is immoral, or B. Jesus didn't have to die to be saved, but if he didn't die you would have to take responsibility for your own actions.
ChadIrvin says2014-05-18T18:14:48.4006636-05:00
Jesus died on the cross and rose three days later. He isn't dead.
ChadIrvin says2014-05-18T18:18:54.7090636-05:00
And Catholocism is not Christianity. They do not believe in the trinity, whereas Christians do. Catholics also believe you can lose your salvation, Christians do not. Catholics believe good works get you to Heaven, Christians do not.
Fanath says2014-05-18T18:37:05.2439877-05:00
You even said it was a form of Christianity yourself. Stop lying.
Fanath says2014-05-18T18:37:24.6646636-05:00
You literally have no idea what you are talking about dude...
ChadIrvin says2014-05-18T18:43:55.9010913-05:00
I said it was a form of Christianity. A false form of something is still a form of it. It isn't true Christianity. Al Queada is a form of Islam, yet it isn't true Islam.
SNP1 says2014-05-19T08:20:14.6507566-05:00
No true scotsman fallacy much? Also, where is your evidence that A. Jesus existed, B. He died on the cross, C. He rose 3 days later, and D. He is still alive today?
Migrating_Hacker says2014-05-19T20:42:53.1185111-05:00
In the picture Jesus has swag in reality he was hated
Migrating_Hacker says2014-05-19T20:43:41.7337426-05:00
Why does God hate atheist?
Migrating_Hacker says2014-05-19T20:44:31.4141111-05:00
Is God sin? Since jealousy is a bad thing and God is a jealous god
Mussab says2014-05-21T11:59:36.7781146-05:00
What if you saw that he didn't die on the cross?
texans14 says2014-07-01T01:22:47.5175236-05:00
He died for all mankind's sins. Even if one could change that, they shouldn't .
jessieloveskenik says2015-05-12T14:55:14.0768348-05:00
I'd save him because he died for ignorant hypocrites (I don't mean all Christians, just the ones I grew up around) and even though I'm not a Christian, or even a member of an Abrahamic religion, I still believe he was a very good man and some people don't deserve his sacrifice.

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