In your opinion, should incest be legal?

Posted by: minnymilerza

Incest—sexual relations with a close family member

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Yes

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No

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minnymilerza says2015-04-12T11:45:52.4556227-05:00
Triangle—please select "other"
drakethejewishlawyerr says2015-04-12T12:02:31.9406251-05:00
I find it hypocritical that some people think gay marriage should be legal, while incest should remain illegal. The government shouldn't be telling who can reproduce and who can't.
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T12:06:26.3450936-05:00
People whom reproduce with their own family members isn't good. It would be inbreeding which would make unhealthy babies with many disorders.
CommunistDog says2015-04-12T12:06:35.3886698-05:00
I'd just say unsure because I do think it's good to do with your wife or husband but not with a young family member. I do not feel that relations with children is appropriate....
genesis01 says2015-04-12T12:12:20.6707298-05:00
@triangle.128k Why are you so worried about the human genepool?
minnymilerza says2015-04-12T12:13:22.0487040-05:00
Triangle—should we prevent someone with a hereditary disorder from reproducing?
minnymilerza says2015-04-12T12:13:42.2220214-05:00
How do we determine who is "worthy" of reproduction?
genesis01 says2015-04-12T12:14:08.3302091-05:00
Triangle might be a Nazi.
genesis01 says2015-04-12T12:14:35.9860003-05:00
He's always so worried about disorders and stuff.
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T12:15:16.2045038-05:00
Well it's not very good for someone to be born with severe disorders because their parents chose to inbreed.
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T12:16:21.0056576-05:00
And genesis01, in no way am I a neo-Nazi.
minnymilerza says2015-04-12T12:16:51.8774639-05:00
Triangle—once again, how do we determine who can and cannot reproduce?
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T12:18:01.7918788-05:00
Well if someone has severe disorders and is very likely to have a severely disordered child, then I don't think they should reproduce.
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T12:18:45.3184823-05:00
Also, if two people are likely to bring an unhealthy child, like with inbreeding, then that's also bad.
minnymilerza says2015-04-12T12:18:57.4238495-05:00
Triangle—how will we prevent them from doing so?
genesis01 says2015-04-12T12:19:23.6313455-05:00
Neo-Nazi detected.
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T12:19:38.4822599-05:00
Well there should be laws against it.
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T12:19:57.1834383-05:00
We should also educate people in schools to not do so.
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T12:20:12.3022261-05:00
If they want a child, they should adopt a child.
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T12:21:40.6984941-05:00
If they are too stupid to use a condom, we should offer them the option to abort.
minnymilerza says2015-04-12T12:22:05.0882405-05:00
Triangle—what if they end up reproducing anyways? What is your proposed penalty for this act?
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T12:23:10.4197841-05:00
Probably a fine, I'm not really sure. I never thought it out that much.
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T12:23:44.0371376-05:00
I mean, just look up inbred children on google. Nobody deserves to be born like that. )-:
minnymilerza says2015-04-12T12:25:11.4506995-05:00
Triangle—they are physically unattractive. So are many people. What's your point?
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T12:25:14.4771771-05:00
According to creationists, we are all inbred and we all are mutated with severe genetic disorders.
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T12:25:37.8173757-05:00
It's not just that, they may be born with developmental disorders, loss of eyes, lack of hearing, etc.
Vox_Veritas says2015-04-12T12:26:55.1022632-05:00
If you're going to legalize sodomy and same-sex marriage, then sure.
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T12:27:33.5243243-05:00
Their overall health would be damned. They might have a lot of issues with their brain and such.
minnymilerza says2015-04-12T12:27:57.7974575-05:00
Triangle—wouldn't a fine make it more difficult (financially speaking) to ensure the inbred child receives proper care? I assume they'd have a host of physical/mental disabilities. And you know how health costs are
minnymilerza says2015-04-12T12:28:49.9709040-05:00
Why punish the child with a lack of medical treatment?
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T12:29:48.3681311-05:00
Well like I said, I never really put too much thought into the criminal charges of inbreeding people. The child should definitely receive extra medical care and such than an average person.
discomfiting says2015-04-12T18:41:49.7263039-05:00
Libertarian my arse...
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T18:53:37.2307421-05:00
Says the anarchist.
discomfiting says2015-04-12T18:55:27.8638145-05:00
Anarchists we among the first libertarians. Want to talk about minimum government? No government is minimum.
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T18:59:32.5295093-05:00
And according to anarchists, there's no government meaning murder is legal. Rape is legal. Torture is legal, need I say more?
discomfiting says2015-04-12T19:00:13.9311131-05:00
Anarchy doesn't mean no rules.....
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T19:00:40.2478070-05:00
And please don't try to act smart when you have a bathroom selfie as your profile picture.
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T19:01:09.9028367-05:00
Okay, if there's no government, who's enforcing the rules?
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T19:02:25.0215977-05:00
Even communism is a better idea than anarchy.
discomfiting says2015-04-12T19:16:05.3568161-05:00
Anarchism means without rulers. In an anarchist society, rules are created between mutually consenting communes and persons without communes. Non-written laws exist too. Such as natural law and the golden rule. Rules are enforced by the commune via non-coercion in many ways such as direct democracy, supermajority voting, and consensus. Historically in many occasions such as in the Spanish civil war, non-heirarhical militias existed under mutual defense. Some anarchists have noted that coercion in created a defense against criminals that prey on the weak is justified as being fundamentally defensive under nature. Individualist approaches and collectivist approach are different on enforceability of rules. Economics within the anarchist community historically has been based in gift economics and communism/syndicalism. Some anarchists believe in free market anarchist, anti-capitalist anarchism and other types of non-gift economic revolved economic systems; all based in voluntary association and free association.
minnymilerza says2015-04-12T19:17:14.7754811-05:00
Triangle—the government perpetrates murder, rape, and torture all the time
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T19:34:13.6569547-05:00
@minnymilerza Well that doesn't mean the government should be abolished and have anarchy. A government is far from a bad idea in general. An ideal government would do a lot of good for the people.
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T19:34:42.0613406-05:00
Just because one apple is rotten, that doesn't mean every apple is bad and should be abolished.
minnymilerza says2015-04-12T19:35:24.9917150-05:00
Triangle—when has there ever been an "ideal" government? Try to not imagine yourself as a MEMBER of the government. They always benefit.
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T19:36:49.9733639-05:00
@discomfiting Seems to me like anarchy is a failure attempt at an utopian society. Kind of like communism.
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T19:39:07.5828933-05:00
Really? You believe a government is always bad? Seems to be as if you're another anarchist.
triangle.128k says2015-04-12T19:39:28.6922347-05:00
@minnymilerza
minnymilerza says2015-04-12T19:42:53.7482849-05:00
I'm not an anarchist, because total anarchy is difficult to define.
discomfiting says2015-04-12T19:45:21.1646836-05:00
Anarchism isn't something that's achieved, anarchism is a continuos thing that is never achieved, like having freedom.
minnymilerza says2015-04-12T19:48:07.5674498-05:00
I definitely oppose large civilizations, such as the ones we have now. Small societies/communities tend to be more efficient
CommunistDog says2015-04-12T20:10:14.4467324-05:00
Triangle, although this does sound dangerous, do you have any evidence supporting your statements such as a news article or scientific data from a reliable source?
CommunistDog says2015-04-12T20:11:54.0929491-05:00
All Minny is saying is, we do have a disorganized government. I do agree. Yes, it's not the best government but it is good enough to support a somewhat stable society. I also agree upon her statement, claiming that smaller democratic societies tend to have a better government system.
minnymilerza says2015-04-12T20:19:42.7175744-05:00
Because it's one step closer to direct democracy. It's more intimate. You actually interact with authority

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