Is 0 surveillance by the government on their citizens a good thing or bad thing?

Posted by: tajshar2k

  • Good

  • Bad

45% 10 votes
55% 12 votes
  • Surveillance should be targeted and require a court order. Mass hacking of citizens private accounts is a gross intrusion of privacy.

  • I'd rather be free even if that means death

  • Without 0 surveillance, I don't know how you can prevent terrorism from happening. We need to spy on those whom are more likely to commit crimes.

  • Ask anyone who lived in Russia during the Cold War.

    Posted by: B0HICA
  • I value my privacy. Besides, I can't use surveillance on the government to watch their every move so why should they do it to me?

    Posted by: Najs
  • While I'd like a little more privacy, complete and utter privacy would ultimately bring the demise of this nation.

  • Spy in ONLY on suspected terrorists which can include a few citizens. None of this blanket surveillance.

  • We do need to catch the bad guys...

Leave a comment...
(Maximum 900 words)
SnaxAttack says2015-06-24T16:45:33.5621892-05:00
When we get the debate, or topic, of privacy; many tend to freak out. Why? What is there to hide in your own personal life, besides a normal life? As long as you are not doing anything wrong, then there is no need to worry. I believe that having no government surveillance is a bad thing because of having the lack of control in technology among people will lead to more chaos, than currently. Without safety, our country can result in being "toast".
Kreakin says2015-06-24T17:10:34.8249346-05:00
Weak argument, what happened to presumed innocent and a right to privacy.
Renegader says2015-06-24T17:28:26.4311740-05:00
I'm with kreakin here. Unless there is adequate suspicion and a warrant, there is no right to spy on people.
tajshar2k says2015-06-24T18:34:26.8423972-05:00
Its the governments right to protect its people. I rather them sniff out a threat, rather than let 4,000 people (9/11) die and point fingers at someone.
SnaxAttack says2015-06-24T21:02:27.8123556-05:00
Like Tajshar2k stated, if it is to protect our country from any threats; then let the government do its job. In reality, its not the peoples job to know what the government is doing all the time; instead, the people should worry about their own affairs. Typing this right now, the government could be potentially watching me type this message. Am I afraid of being watched, supposedly breaking my "privacy", from the government; no. No, I am not because if I am being spied upon currently, are they interfering with me in any way? No, they are just doing their job; similar to me doing my favorite hobby of searching the Internet. In reality, people fear more about the idea than it is needed.
B0HICA says2015-06-24T21:08:20.6707824-05:00
@SnaxAttack: I'm sure the Soviet government made similar claims when they started spying on their citizens. Look what happened. Can you honestly say that the same thing could not happen here? In other words, do you trust the government. Please say yes. I could really use a good laugh.
SnaxAttack says2015-06-24T21:22:35.1044951-05:00
@B0HICA: In my opinion, I trust the government enough. We can make claims that anyone can be good and evil, but I trust that our society will make the more moral decision when it comes down to it. Our government, admittedly, is not as great as it used to be, but we have not fallen under the influence of anarchy. The reason why the Soviet Union is like the way it is, is because of its history with the U.S. They went bankrupt when Ronald Reagan took office, and that resulted in a different environment compared to the U.S. In our country, we run off of businesses and companies who supports our economy in a way, which makes us look like the biggest threat compared to other countries. As long as we have morality, which I believe we still do and people just deny its existence, we will not fall under the influence of the Soviet Union. And of course there will obviously be future tensions between countries, which is why I don't mind the idea of government surveillance. If you have nothing to hide in your life, then why worry?
B0HICA says2015-06-24T21:33:01.8300988-05:00
You trust the government? You say we need this surveillance to be safe? We got along fine without it, until recently. Blanket surveillance is unconstitutional. Once you eliminate the need for warrants, what's next? People say we need this or that to fight terrorism. They chip away at our Constitutional freedoms a little bit at a time. Don't you see this? Maybe this will make it clearer. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. William Pitt Also, any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both. Benjamin Franklin.
SnaxAttack says2015-06-24T22:00:19.9886808-05:00
For curiosity, may I ask when we were "fine" without government surveillance? Second, your assumption that we will fall into a ludicrous state of overwhelming security can be depicted more as fear, than reason. I will respect your opinion on whatever you say, but when you say that it will result in no privacy what so ever in the future, that is mainly fear talking than reason. What I mean by fear is like this, in the dark we see illusions. Our mind mentally forms the worst possible being in the dark, but is truly not there. It seems, in your case, that you are more paranoid at the idea of being spied upon than looking more into it. I admit I was the same way at first, but looking into it, I'd rather feel safer. Even if it takes a little of my privacy to protect the country. Because, isn't that what the "Founding Fathers" wanted for the future of this country? For our people to serve the country for the greater good?
tajshar2k says2015-06-24T22:09:54.0314888-05:00
Also, if the government does turn rogue, it isn't going to ask us if its okay to spy on us.
B0HICA says2015-06-24T22:19:30.4196433-05:00
It's not fear talking. It's history. There are many examples of how government can turn on it's own people. History, as they say, has but a single page. Maybe I'm wrong. I hope I am. But experience tells a different story.
SnaxAttack says2015-06-24T22:23:38.6690199-05:00
But don't we learn our mistakes in history? Aren't we more heedful more now, then back then because we seen or experienced an event in the past? As well as which point in time were we "fine" without government surveillance?

Freebase Icon   Portions of this page are reproduced from or are modifications based on work created and shared by Google and used according to terms described in the Creative Commons 3.0 Attribution License.

By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use.